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Child's friend parent on sexual offender register

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springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 13:57

I live in a smallish town - only one primary school and only one class per year. My DC is in reception. One of the children's fathers was found guilty of looking at child sex photographs and online grooming of a young teen girl. He is on the sexual offender register. The mother has retained a close relationship with the father (they may still be together - I don't know her well enough). We have kids' birthday parties all the time and eg when she hosts one, the father is likely to be there. I don't want my children near this man. I just don't. I think she's keen for him to be reintegrated into the (quite small) community. AIBU is, I suppose, to make it clear I don't want him to bring their child to my child's party? (I will just make an excuse for their party). Also - is this unfair on my child's friend (who is obviously only 4 too). This is not something that is going to go away -- and want to work out how to manage it now. Please be kind - I absolutely know it is not the mother or the child's fault.

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waterrat · 24/04/2025 14:23

He is allowed near his own child because firstly he will have been assessed as safe to be around them. We are seeing in society an absolutely enormous number of men arrested gor online child abuse offences sadly.

I really dislike judgemental vigilante style approaches. This man is being monitored by SS and police and those close to him know his risks.

He is zero risk on the doorstep of your house and you are just punishing his child

ACynicalDad · 24/04/2025 14:23

I would let your child go to his child's party but I would stay and if at any point in the future it is a drop-off party I'd make my excuses. At your own party I think you are well within your rights to tell the mum that the child is welcome but that he is not. If it's a drop-off/pick-up, he should wait outside. Ultimately, she will come to save the embarrassment. And no playdates at theirs ever.

frecklejuice · 24/04/2025 14:22

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:15

I don't know. I don't know how to find out. I looked briefly at Sarah's Law (I am in England) but I couldn't work out if it covered eg kids' parties. I don't want to start a witch hunt vibe.

I’m not sure how you would find out, I only know the details of this man’s because I am friends with his ex wife. Surely he can’t just have free rein around children though? That would be crazy.

I definitely agree with you though in that I wouldn’t have him at my house or anywhere near my kids, I’m not sure what it’s like where you live but the Dad I know isn’t welcome anywhere around here and other parents would make that very clear but he also hasn’t tried to integrate himself and keeps a very low profile.

Shelby2010 · 24/04/2025 14:21

If the OP is hosting a party, she’s going to be too busy to watch her child every minute. And certainly won’t be able to police this man’s interactions with her child - or any of the others. And this is if it’s in her own home. Completely impossible if it was somewhere like soft play for example.

There must be some way of finding out if he is even allowed at this kind of event.

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:20

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/04/2025 14:17

Does the mum know that you know her ex is on the sex offenders register?

You could just say it bluntly.

"Please can you accompany Amy to Lizzie's party? I'm aware that Amy's dad is on the sex offenders register and I don't feel comfortable with him in my house."

And yes, it was in the local paper and this is a small town. She must know pretty much everyone knows.

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waterrat · 24/04/2025 14:20

You can feel natural horror snd revulsion ...and remain vigilant. without descending into a mob type mentality of constant punishment of someone already being closely watched by authorities.

Mushypeasandchipstogo · 24/04/2025 14:20

YANBU . Why is a man like that even allowed near his own children?

waterrat · 24/04/2025 14:19

This man probably is less of a risk now than random others as he is being monitored.

Online grooming doesn't mean he is going to target a child at a birthday party.

I would not punish his poor child for his crimes which he is clearly being punished for himself anyway.

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:19

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/04/2025 14:17

Does the mum know that you know her ex is on the sex offenders register?

You could just say it bluntly.

"Please can you accompany Amy to Lizzie's party? I'm aware that Amy's dad is on the sex offenders register and I don't feel comfortable with him in my house."

This is blunt, but probably the best way managing it. Poor woman. It's a horrendous situation for her.

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LadysSmock · 24/04/2025 14:19

AnotherNaCha · 24/04/2025 14:17

You do realise if she left him then he’d still be eligible to have at least 50/50 custody of his child? So perhaps she’s staying to protect her child against that. The justice system needs to change around this. Desperately

Of course it does, but even if she is doing that, why integrate him back into the community? She doesn’t have to subject other children to her husband’s depravity.

There are ways of doing what you suggest and this isn’t it.

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:18

AnotherNaCha · 24/04/2025 14:15

Also how do you know other men are fine?

Clearly, I don't. And it's a constant balance. And I check in on the conversations etc etc. But I think it's important for kids to interact with friendly adults as part of their development. But this man is a groomer. It's not the same level of risk in my eyes.

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Energe · 24/04/2025 14:17

I wouldn’t have anything to do with him at all

CherryRipe1 · 24/04/2025 14:17

I had a slightly similar situation op with an extended family member and stopped by daughter aged 5 going to the home of this person & went nc. They didn't have young kids so there wasn't an issue with parties etc. Yes I feel sorry for your friends child suffering due to the vile pervert but gosh, I absolutely see your point. Can someone please update me on the law, are paedophiles even actually allowed around near children?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 24/04/2025 14:17

Does the mum know that you know her ex is on the sex offenders register?

You could just say it bluntly.

"Please can you accompany Amy to Lizzie's party? I'm aware that Amy's dad is on the sex offenders register and I don't feel comfortable with him in my house."

AnotherNaCha · 24/04/2025 14:17

LadysSmock · 24/04/2025 14:13

Because Mummy decided to keep this man around and try and reintegrate him into the community.

Sorry, but for me that man is a risk. I wouldn’t punish the child but it’s the child’s parents who are doing this to their child. The child’s mother needs to sort out her priorities.

You do realise if she left him then he’d still be eligible to have at least 50/50 custody of his child? So perhaps she’s staying to protect her child against that. The justice system needs to change around this. Desperately

HowToBuy · 24/04/2025 14:16

Honestly OP, I would feel exactly the same as you and I would just lay it out for the mother.

‘As you’ve seen from the invite, we are having a bday party for my DD at home Saturday week. We would love to see X on the day. However, due to X’s father’s previous behaviour and convictions I would request that he not drop X off, atrend the party or come near the house. Thanks for your understanding and can’t wait to see X on the day’

I wouldn’t want him next or near my DD for all the reasons youve highlighted. I also wouldn’t want to be around him myself.

And to the poster who mentioned people should support his reintegration to society… seriously, cop the fuck on, he’s a paedophile and no child, including his own, should have to be around him.

GardenGaff · 24/04/2025 14:16

saraclara · 24/04/2025 14:02

Poor kid. Four years old. "Mummy, why is everyone else in my class invited to Spring minor's party, but not me?"
"Mummy, we invited everyone to my party, so why is no-one coming?"

You must have misread the OP.

She’s not talking about not inviting the child to her child party, she’s saying she doesn’t want the dad attending her child’s party and staying.

InterIgnis · 24/04/2025 14:15

No, I would not be willing to accept him using his daughter as a proverbial human shield to gain access to children. It’s extremely unfortunate for his daughter, but being ‘kind’ to her is not worth the very real risk to your own children.

What if, in wanting to include his daughter, your children did come to harm? Would that be acceptable? Would you still think you did the right thing?

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 24/04/2025 14:15

friendsonly · 24/04/2025 14:11

I’m sure he’s not the only man who’s been present and interacting with your child who is that way inclined. Others just haven’t been convicted or you just don’t know about it.

unless you ban all men from ever taking to your child, they will be spoken to by paedos. You just have to supervise and not leave your child alone with them.

I'm sorry, but this is nonsense. You don't disregard a known risk because there could be an unknown one that's just as bad.

It's like saying there's no point looking before you cross the road because you might not see a car anyway, so you may as well just do it with your eyes shut and hope for the best.

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:15

frecklejuice · 24/04/2025 14:13

Is he actually allowed at the school and to be around children that aren’t his? My child’s friends father was put onto the register last year and the conditions of this are that he isn’t allowed onto school grounds (can park in the car near the school), he isn’t allowed at any of his kids sports venues and he isn’t allowed any contact with females under the age of 16 without their parents consent. His two kids still see him but everyone else acts like he is dead, no one talks about him or mentions him. The one thing that hasn’t happened though is that people haven’t punished his children for his crimes.

I don't know. I don't know how to find out. I looked briefly at Sarah's Law (I am in England) but I couldn't work out if it covered eg kids' parties. I don't want to start a witch hunt vibe.

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NineteenSeventyNine · 24/04/2025 14:15

I’d be doing everything in my power to avoid any possible contact between my child and this man, and I’d have serious concerns about the mother’s judgement. Why on earth should OP, her child and others feel like they need to play any part in his reintegration? Children are not support animals for perverted men FFS. I know women are conditioned to smooth things over, but suggesting OP should allow her child to be around a literal sex offender for the sake of a bit of social cohesion is insane.

AnotherNaCha · 24/04/2025 14:15

springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 14:03

I suppose I just see it as different - other men being physically present and interacting with my kids at a children's party - fine. I wouldn't expect to police every word. In his case, I don't want him chatting to my kids in any way. We don't do drop and run parties - the kids are only four. He would stay.

Also how do you know other men are fine?

romdowa · 24/04/2025 14:15

I'd put mummy and Adam on the invitation and if the pedo shows up then I'd send him away. No way would I allow him to attend my child's party. It's your job to protect your kids , clearly this mother is failing to protect hers but that's not your problem

ShaunaSadeki · 24/04/2025 14:14

Yes I agree with having the difficult conversation with the mum. Then no one is excluded. Perhaps she might distance herself from him with a better support network anyway.

At least you know about this one!

2024onwardsandup · 24/04/2025 14:14

I don’t understand why people think it’s so unbelievably awful to say that this man can’t come to a party?it’s not saying the child can’t.