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Child's friend parent on sexual offender register

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springisspringing1 · 24/04/2025 13:57

I live in a smallish town - only one primary school and only one class per year. My DC is in reception. One of the children's fathers was found guilty of looking at child sex photographs and online grooming of a young teen girl. He is on the sexual offender register. The mother has retained a close relationship with the father (they may still be together - I don't know her well enough). We have kids' birthday parties all the time and eg when she hosts one, the father is likely to be there. I don't want my children near this man. I just don't. I think she's keen for him to be reintegrated into the (quite small) community. AIBU is, I suppose, to make it clear I don't want him to bring their child to my child's party? (I will just make an excuse for their party). Also - is this unfair on my child's friend (who is obviously only 4 too). This is not something that is going to go away -- and want to work out how to manage it now. Please be kind - I absolutely know it is not the mother or the child's fault.

OP posts:
LadysSmock · 24/04/2025 16:26

Gymmum82 · 24/04/2025 16:23

How is that going to harm the child? Answer it isn’t. If you are going to start policing people’s thoughts you are going to have to interrogate a lot of people. Who knows what any stranger in the street is thinking. Besides which it doesn’t affect you or your child.
Is it nice to think about? No. Is it damaging to the child? Also no

But he might be taking photos. The latest thing is to take photos of children then use their faces and create sexual images based on AI. That’s why my kids faces aren’t on social media.

Plus watching children means they get a good scope of who to groom. This is well known as paedophiles have admitted this is how they start - watch the kids, figure out who is close with who, who would make a good victim.

A person watching your kids can absolutely be a risk and harm a child.

Winterwonders24 · 24/04/2025 16:26

friendsonly · 24/04/2025 14:11

I’m sure he’s not the only man who’s been present and interacting with your child who is that way inclined. Others just haven’t been convicted or you just don’t know about it.

unless you ban all men from ever taking to your child, they will be spoken to by paedos. You just have to supervise and not leave your child alone with them.

I do hate this bloody type of answer: you're right,we don't catch them all: but we know this one!!! There's a guy on our trick or treat route that gives my OH vibes, so we won't go back there this year. But here's a sex offender on the register, and you shrug your shoulders? I find this view Contemptible ,to be honest

WearyAuldWumman · 24/04/2025 16:26

TeenLifeMum · 24/04/2025 16:24

I can’t believe how many parents don’t care about knowing allowing their dc being around a paedophile. Absolutely not! The fact the mother is minimising and keeping a relationship is worrying.

Agreed.

WearyAuldWumman · 24/04/2025 16:26

YRGAM · 24/04/2025 16:25

YABU and punishing the child for the sins of the father

Rather that than expose other children to a paedophile.

YRGAM · 24/04/2025 16:25

YABU and punishing the child for the sins of the father

TeenLifeMum · 24/04/2025 16:24

I can’t believe how many parents don’t care about knowing allowing their dc being around a paedophile. Absolutely not! The fact the mother is minimising and keeping a relationship is worrying.

WearyAuldWumman · 24/04/2025 16:24

caramac04 · 24/04/2025 16:20

NTRTFT but grooming can absolutely start from the merest of interactions. A young child who trusts his parents is likely to trust the parents of his friends. Once the adult has been seen in a safe environment a few times, a certain level of trust will have been reached. And so on.
Dramatic? Unlikely? Maybe but I’d not have that paedophile anywhere near my child or home.
Maybe he’s a hebephile (?sp) so OP’s child not yet of interest but behaviour changes and can become more extreme.

The one that I mentioned upthread finished up with convictions against adolescents, a grown woman and a baby and was not on the register at that time, in spite of his previous convictions.

Gymmum82 · 24/04/2025 16:23

NC28 · 24/04/2025 15:57

I disagree.

Say this creature is in the vicinity of OPs kid. No direct contact or communication, fine. But just watching the kids. Can you think what he might be thinking? Where his mind will go? I’m clearly not about to type a scenario of his possible thoughts, but would you be happy with someone leering at your child, taking detail of their clothes, hair colour, smile etc, for their own pleasure later that night?

How is that going to harm the child? Answer it isn’t. If you are going to start policing people’s thoughts you are going to have to interrogate a lot of people. Who knows what any stranger in the street is thinking. Besides which it doesn’t affect you or your child.
Is it nice to think about? No. Is it damaging to the child? Also no

neverbeenskiing · 24/04/2025 16:23

healthybychristmas · 24/04/2025 16:16

I thought part of being on that register was that it stopped you from going near children In this sort of situation.

This is a common misconception. Children are everywhere, so without being confined to permanent house arrest it's not practically possible for a convicted paedophile to ensure they never go "near children". They won't be able to work with children or take on voluneering roles with children but their SHPO (Sexual Harm Prevention Order) will probably say something fairly vague along the lines of they must avoid contact with children other than that which is necessary in the course of their normal day to day life- i'm paraphrasing obviously. So they could argue that picking up their own child from school is a necessary part of their every day life (even though there will be other children there) but they would potentially be in trouble if they were approaching random children in a local park. Being at their own childs birthday party would more than likely be seen as reasonable but taking their child to another childs birthday party and staying there with them could be pushing the boundaries of, or even breaching, their SHPO depending on what it says.

LSmiff · 24/04/2025 16:22

Ignore the ridiculous on here today OP, & the mother who appears to think that everything will be OK. It won’t, pedo’s never stop! Give it to that woman straight, & keep your kid safe. What do the other parents think, surely they can’t think that this is OK too?

SerafinasGoose · 24/04/2025 16:21

MoveYourSelfDearie · 24/04/2025 15:35

You're being ironic aren't you? You don't actually believe what you've written here

Of course it's a joke. But given the overall content of this thread I admit that I, too, blinked twice.

WearyAuldWumman · 24/04/2025 16:21

healthybychristmas · 24/04/2025 16:16

I thought part of being on that register was that it stopped you from going near children In this sort of situation.

Nope.

The predator that I've mentioned was able to set up home with a woman who had two children and - as I've just discovered - even though I reported the situation the same year that he was convicted again.

A Fife teacher has just been convicted of inappropriate communications with teenage girls (they'd just left school). He sent them pics and videos of himself. He's only going to be on the sex offenders' register for two years, if I recall correctly.

Winterwonders24 · 24/04/2025 16:21

saraclara · 24/04/2025 14:02

Poor kid. Four years old. "Mummy, why is everyone else in my class invited to Spring minor's party, but not me?"
"Mummy, we invited everyone to my party, so why is no-one coming?"

"Because your dad us a nounce that I've not said isn't welcome in my house"?

caramac04 · 24/04/2025 16:20

NTRTFT but grooming can absolutely start from the merest of interactions. A young child who trusts his parents is likely to trust the parents of his friends. Once the adult has been seen in a safe environment a few times, a certain level of trust will have been reached. And so on.
Dramatic? Unlikely? Maybe but I’d not have that paedophile anywhere near my child or home.
Maybe he’s a hebephile (?sp) so OP’s child not yet of interest but behaviour changes and can become more extreme.

Lavenderflower · 24/04/2025 16:20

My issues is that parent allowed an abuser to have contact with my child. I consider this a serious breach of trust.

SerafinasGoose · 24/04/2025 16:20

SipandClean · 24/04/2025 15:27

All these people making excuses for a pedophile and offering him a second chance, I wonder if you would be so sympathetic if it involved your child.

I'm personally wondering what could possibly be motivating them to post in that vein. #MeToo was an indication. Not the numbers of women posting - that sadly came as no surprise - but the extent and vitriol of the pushback telling us why 'nice girls' should not be speaking about this serious and far too pervasive issue.

Who stands to gain from keeping the status quo precisely as it is?

Hint: it isn't women, and it isn't children.

Winterwonders24 · 24/04/2025 16:19

saraclara · 24/04/2025 13:58

Your child will never be near that man, unsupervised. Don't punish his child for their father's actions.

Trust the mum too,do we? Ridiculous comment

inabubble3 · 24/04/2025 16:19

Yanbu . I’d be making other plans/ excuses so your child can just say they did something else instead.

Thing is you feel uncomfortable about it for a reason. Children being young goes quickly. If you socialise with these people it’s quite disinegnuous isn’t it. They’ll keep inviting you to things. It’s easy to stay at a 4 year olds party but at an 8 year olds party, or when they start going on smaller outing for birthdays in 1 car with just parents? It will be easier to make excuses now and shut it down than going along with it, pretending to be ok with it and going along with it for ages…

There will hands down be other people thinking the same. Your child can an be friends with this child but you just don’t want to expose your child to the risk of their home life.

People who are saying that the guy will be monitored by social services/ police…. I mean relying on these services to keep your children safe isn’t a fail safe plan is it.

YANBU

Nanny0gg · 24/04/2025 16:18

VickyEadieofThigh · 24/04/2025 14:00

How do you know?

Because the OP or her partner will be there?

RealEagle · 24/04/2025 16:18

Can’t believe some of these responses,He was looking at child porn (those poor abused children being made to do these things ),also done for grooming.People saying he needs integrating back into village life FUCK OFF.

LadysSmock · 24/04/2025 16:18

MammaTo · 24/04/2025 15:55

I don’t think YABU at all.

If the mum still chooses to have this man in hers and her child’s life then in my eyes, she is just as bad as him. It’s so unfair to the child to not be actively distancing this man away from them.

And I think risking the child. I know paedophiles have preferences but paedophiles can be very depraved. I would fight to the death to keep my child’s parent away from them if they were a convicted paedophile, I would not be trying to reintegrate them into my local community. I wonder if she doesn’t believe he is guilty.

healthybychristmas · 24/04/2025 16:16

I thought part of being on that register was that it stopped you from going near children In this sort of situation.

Snapncrackle · 24/04/2025 16:14

LarkspurLane · 24/04/2025 16:03

Sorry what, have I misunderstood?
You would be more angry at OP than you would be at the paedophile?

Yes - if I wasn’t aware that he was a convicted child abuser

because the OP is aware he is an abuser and a convicted one on the register and allowed him into her home where there are lots of children at a party & didn’t give me any choice if that was ok with my child being around such a person

so while I would feel disgust at the man
I would also be very angry at the OP that she allowed him in her houses for a child’s party ( ( if she were to do this )

I mean inviting a registered child sex abuser to a party full of young kids - it’s like putting lambs in a field to be slaughtered by a lion

NImumconfused · 24/04/2025 16:14

saraclara · 24/04/2025 13:58

Your child will never be near that man, unsupervised. Don't punish his child for their father's actions.

You can't possibly say that. My child was groomed and assaulted by a man with a valid DBS check on school premises during class time - don't ever underestimate the deviousness of the paedophile.

WearyAuldWumman · 24/04/2025 16:12

I've just Googled the offender that I mentioned above.

To my shock, I've just discovered that he had a conviction in 1985 for 'lewd and libidinous practices'. That would be the same year that I reported that he was living in the same household as a woman and her daughters.

FGS, don't take chances around a sex offender.

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