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Is my friend outrageously entitled in her expectations?

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MariadeiMiracoli · 24/04/2025 11:52

I moved to my current town 18 years ago and got to know a woman renting a house on the cheap from a local who was off travelling. She was an interesting woman who'd given up her teaching job after a few years and gone travelling to SE Asia and South America, teaching English. Very laid back, getting by on benefits and subs from friends and family. Used to do a few hours at the local pub or shop for cash in hand and when she'd built up enough, buy an air ticket and take off to Hawaii or India for a month or two, picking up bar work or sleeping on the beach when she got there, always anticipating that someone would help her out.

About 12 years ago she met a man and moved in with him in Devon. It didn't work out and she ended up in a caravan and, when she turned 55, was housed in a flat in a 55+ development. But she's unhappy: there's noise, one of her neighbours drinks and plays music loud, another has serious MH issues. I visited her there a couple of years ago and thought it was actually rather nice: smart modern flat in a very desirable Devon town and no issues on the days I was there. I've said to her that even in the smartest private flats you can end up living next door to someone noisy but she says she's not prepared to put up with it.

She wants a bungalow with two bedrooms, so she can have a yoga/ meditation/ craft room. She wants a south-facing garden she can tend. It's got to be within walking distance of a decent town, but somewhere quiet and peaceful with a green outlook. And parking because she has a car. She's found a number of HAs (one here near me, where she used to live, one where she lives now and a third in the Bristol area) that have a tiny number of properties that fit her bill. All of them have been built for disabled people. She's been driving around inspecting them and knows precisely which ones she's after.

She's asked for my support to try and get one of her chosen properties in this area. I'm not sure what that will entail, but I suspect it'll involve spinning the truth to match the HA criteria. I've told her very clearly that I don't think there's any way she'll actually get one of these properties and she needs to compromise, but she says that if you don't ask firmly you don't get. Is this how it is now? I don't know what to make of it.

OP posts:
toomuchfaff · 24/04/2025 12:09

PruthePrune · 24/04/2025 11:54

She sounds like a over entitled freeloader. Don't have anything to do with her HA application.

Exactly

Spent a life coasting, still wants more...

WoodyOwl · 24/04/2025 12:09

If she needs help filling in/printing off/understanding the form, by all means help. But it sounds like she wants you to lie on the form which is fraud. There is also a huge waiting list for properties suitable for disabled people. These are a finite resource. If she takes one, someone else doesn't get one. If she is not disabled ask her to explain to you exactly why she thinks she should have one and a person with genuine disabilities should wait.

ItGhoul · 24/04/2025 12:05

I strongly doubt she's got a chance in hell of getting a two-bed property intended for a disabled person when she's single and able-bodied, and I would be strongly inclined to tell her to fuck off.

EmeraldRoulette · 24/04/2025 12:04

@MariadeiMiracoli what does she live on? How is the rent paid?

Crushed23 · 24/04/2025 12:03

As an avid traveller in my younger years I met a lot of people like this, usually men, and I’ve often wondered what happens to them when they hit 50 or 60 and the backpacking lifestyle doesn’t suit them anymore. The ones I met appeared to have laid zero foundations for old age. It’s risky and short-sighted although they seemed very happy at the time. I would be sympathetic to your friend but I absolutely wouldn’t help her fraudulently claim an apartment meant for disabled people.

justkeepswimingswiming · 24/04/2025 12:01

Without proof of disability she won’t get anywhere. She’d need to be on disability benefits or have proof she needs a carer to get the second bedroom. She’s probably hoping you’ll play along and be the “carer.0 which is fraud btw. Not worth getting involved.

ThejoyofNC · 24/04/2025 12:00

She's a lifelong freeloader, she will never change. Honestly, I'd be wary of her coming to live near you because she'll see you as just another source to sponge from.

Whynotaxthisyear · 24/04/2025 12:00

If you want to help her, you could write a reference of whatever, but it will have to be true to the best of your knowledge. Is she disabled? Like you, I think it is almost impossible that this will work out. Two bed flats are unlikely to go to a single person.
Also she still might get noisy neighbours, and some of the residents may have MH problems.

ValentinesGranny · 24/04/2025 11:59

Without proof of disability it won't go anywhere.

Hoober · 24/04/2025 11:58

Just don’t get involved it’s seriously doubtful she will get an accessible property without any proof of disability

RainbowZebraWarrior · 24/04/2025 11:57

If you mean that she's going to pretend to be disabled and have you go along with that, then no. Absolutely not.

I'd just say again that you don't think she will qualify. Tell her to apply and see what happens. Tell her you're too busy to help or don't think there's anything you could do to assist. Tell her you think it's wrong.

I have a feeling that the HA's would want to see evidence of disability (medical info, PIP claim, Blue Badge) if these properties are set aside for purely disabled clients. I'm disabled myself and often have to provide proof for various reasons.

Mosaic123 · 24/04/2025 11:55

Well if no lies are involved then I suppose it's ok.

If she is taking a property away from a disabled person that can't be be right, unless the HA don't have enough suitable people to rent to (seems unlikely) .

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2025 11:55

PruthePrune · 24/04/2025 11:54

She sounds like a over entitled freeloader. Don't have anything to do with her HA application.

This. Expecting everyone else to fund her lifestyle.

PruthePrune · 24/04/2025 11:54

She sounds like a over entitled freeloader. Don't have anything to do with her HA application.