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To stop paying extras for SC because their mum is being horrid?

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Kitchi · 24/04/2025 10:33

I have two SC. DH and his ex split because she had an affair and moved away. She’s still with the other man, they have a toddler, and the face of it our household lifestyles seem fairly similar. Nobody is struggling, but they have far more spare cash for holidays and days out than we do (we have a mortgage and nursery to pay for, they don’t, she doesn’t work). From what DH says they are likely to be in debt but who knows.

We pay CMS level maintenance plus all uniforms / school clubs / shoes, plus music and sports tuition (not cheap), plus we have traditionally paid everything for school trips. We have them two nights a week.

I am the higher earner and DH pays me an amount every month to cover his share of the bills. Realistically, he covers a proportionate to salary amount of our bills, the CMS, and I am paying for the extras.

SC’s mum has ramped up her dislike of us since I got pregnant, is telling SC to lie to us, refusing to let us call when she should, is telling SC that we’re mean to her and bad people, and all kinds of rude stuff which is being parroted back (petty things like my hair is ugly or our car is rubbish or I’m too old to have a baby or we’re poor because we shop at Aldi).

AIBU to just stop paying for the extras like trips and uniform, except for what they need for our house? I’ll still pay for their sports and music tuition. She can afford four foreign holidays a year so I don’t think SC would go without.

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BernardButlersBra · 24/04/2025 14:13

HowToBuy · 24/04/2025 14:01

I completely agree with you blocking her and refusing to cover more costs.

if it was me though, I would be sending her one last email saying you have tried your best to maintain a civil relationship with her, you have covered additional costs that weren’t yours to cover but due to her continuous alienation of you and your DH through her lies and bad mouthing, you will no longer be communication with her and are now blocking her. You’ll continue to pay for violin and football but anything other than that is between her and your DH. At least then you have a record in writing for the time when court comes around as well.

I think a final email to set your stall out is a great idea. That way she can't plead ignorance. Well, she probably will do but you tried

Big no to whoever suggested the financial transparency with the ex. It's NONE of her business!

Kitchi · 24/04/2025 14:12

HowToBuy · 24/04/2025 14:01

I completely agree with you blocking her and refusing to cover more costs.

if it was me though, I would be sending her one last email saying you have tried your best to maintain a civil relationship with her, you have covered additional costs that weren’t yours to cover but due to her continuous alienation of you and your DH through her lies and bad mouthing, you will no longer be communication with her and are now blocking her. You’ll continue to pay for violin and football but anything other than that is between her and your DH. At least then you have a record in writing for the time when court comes around as well.

The thing is, I can’t prove that she’s saying these things and she will turn it around on me and say it’s the children’s views and I’m punishing them for their honesty, and not allowing them to speak freely which damages their mental health. She has an answer for everything. I feel like grey rock is the best way to go.

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jolies1 · 24/04/2025 14:08

Kitchi · 24/04/2025 13:55

I should say SC are aware I pay for the tuition because I take them to lessons and arrange everything (and their mum is quite critical of it all).

Often she’ll email me to say something like “kids needed new trainers and coats so I need you to transfer me £150 to cover it” and I do. In the past the amounts were lower, but they are growing up. I do think she inflates the costs but it felt worthwhile to pay for a decent relationship and not being messed around with contact.

Now I think we’ll be going for a court order to formalise access as I expect she’ll retaliate that way.

Can you and DH not respond “okay that’s fine we will take kids shopping on our weekend, then no need to send cash and receipts. Thanks.”

Kids school trip coming up “Thanks Suzie, no problem. DH will contact teacher to make arrangements for payment.”

Spirallingdownwards · 24/04/2025 14:06

Kitchi · 24/04/2025 13:49

I’m not going to give her the satisfaction of it, or the enjoyment of the conflict. Just going to block her. If she contacts DH, he will say no.

She’s not going to struggle to cover these payments but she’ll realise why not to bite the hand that feeds you.

I think saying this the satisfaction will be yours as you will see her face as the penny drops and she realises she has shot herself in the foot with her silly spiteful games.

HowToBuy · 24/04/2025 14:01

I completely agree with you blocking her and refusing to cover more costs.

if it was me though, I would be sending her one last email saying you have tried your best to maintain a civil relationship with her, you have covered additional costs that weren’t yours to cover but due to her continuous alienation of you and your DH through her lies and bad mouthing, you will no longer be communication with her and are now blocking her. You’ll continue to pay for violin and football but anything other than that is between her and your DH. At least then you have a record in writing for the time when court comes around as well.

Kitchi · 24/04/2025 13:55

I should say SC are aware I pay for the tuition because I take them to lessons and arrange everything (and their mum is quite critical of it all).

Often she’ll email me to say something like “kids needed new trainers and coats so I need you to transfer me £150 to cover it” and I do. In the past the amounts were lower, but they are growing up. I do think she inflates the costs but it felt worthwhile to pay for a decent relationship and not being messed around with contact.

Now I think we’ll be going for a court order to formalise access as I expect she’ll retaliate that way.

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Kitchi · 24/04/2025 13:49

Spirallingdownwards · 24/04/2025 13:41

What you are proposing seems fair. But have the conversation with the ex. (DH or you). Yes you are right. We are poor. We can only afford the CMS and the sports/music. Thanks for realising this and from now on you can do trips and uniforms and we will do the rest. Thanks for pointing this out to the children. They will be so relieved they won't suffer because you will be picking up those bills.

I’m not going to give her the satisfaction of it, or the enjoyment of the conflict. Just going to block her. If she contacts DH, he will say no.

She’s not going to struggle to cover these payments but she’ll realise why not to bite the hand that feeds you.

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NewPapaGuinea · 24/04/2025 13:47

I’d think about actually taking the children to buy the uniforms, that way they see who is paying. Whether that’s you or their father (or both).

SinkToTheBottomWithYou · 24/04/2025 13:47

Stop paying the extras, pay her CMS level. And then when the SC are at yours, you can buy them clothes, etc. You can also then ask if they want to do x or y club and sign them up when they can see it is you making the payment.

(DH took this approach when it turned out his ex was claiming everything was from her)

Beamur · 24/04/2025 13:46

What a horrible situation to be in.
In your shoes, I would start by handing over all communication with the ex to your DH. He can be the one who talks to her in future.
Continue to pay for the things you are - the music and other lessons.
I'd suggest that your DH reframes the cost splitting for items above those paid for by CMS as needing to be discussed first.
I'd be tempted in his position to point out that he and you don't bad mouth the kids about her because it would make them unhappy. She might feel resentful but it hurts the kids to be put in the middle.

BruFord · 24/04/2025 13:45

Withoutfearorfavour · 24/04/2025 13:39

Her kids. And there we have it.

@Withoutfearorfavour They are her kids, Hers and their Dad’s.

The OP doesn’t have PR for them and she isn’t financially responsible for them, is she?
Anything that she personally pays for is a gift to the children, not fulfilling a responsibility. Just as it would be from a grandparent, aunt, uncle, godparent, etc.

My DH and I are financially responsible for our children, no one else is. 🤷

BernardButlersBra · 24/04/2025 13:43

nomas · 24/04/2025 11:07

YANBU, pay the required CMS and the bits you want to and stop the rest.

She can have one less holiday a year or get a job. Don’t subside the mean twat.

Err this. She can get a job and pay for her own children rather than other people. My children are way younger than her and l have chronic health issues but still work pretty much full time

Spirallingdownwards · 24/04/2025 13:42

Withoutfearorfavour · 24/04/2025 13:39

Her kids. And there we have it.

Yes - her kids and his kids but not the OP's kids.

Spirallingdownwards · 24/04/2025 13:41

What you are proposing seems fair. But have the conversation with the ex. (DH or you). Yes you are right. We are poor. We can only afford the CMS and the sports/music. Thanks for realising this and from now on you can do trips and uniforms and we will do the rest. Thanks for pointing this out to the children. They will be so relieved they won't suffer because you will be picking up those bills.

BernardButlersBra · 24/04/2025 13:40

@AnotherNaCha to be fair she is subbing them. Zero chance of me doing that. I don't see why people don't pay for their own children. The ex and the husband to a degree are cheeky fuckers

Kitchi · 24/04/2025 13:40

WearyAuldWumman · 24/04/2025 13:33

Just be careful. Latterly, I thought that I was getting on better with my late husband's ex. In our case, the kids were adults when she acquired her boyfriend, but she still managed to manipulate things.

(The final time that I had a conversation with the DIL, even she described the ex as 'jealous and controlling' - over the DIL's relationship with the son.)

The ex had me fooled. I actually thought that we were building a civilised relationship. I was wrong.

This is how I feel. She clearly has absolutely no respect for me. I have been a mug. But most of all it’s rubbish for SC because us getting on would be the best outcome for them.

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Withoutfearorfavour · 24/04/2025 13:39

JustSawJohnny · 24/04/2025 13:35

I wouldn't be paying for any of it. It's not your responsibility.

Tell the Mother to have one less holiday a year and pay for it herself.

You need to let her know that everything she says about you is being fed back and that since she has no respect for you, you have no reason to pay extras for her kids.

Her kids. And there we have it.

Sickofschoolruns · 24/04/2025 13:39

No, don't punish the kids. Your partner is likely lapping this up, you two fighting it out whilst one financially carries him through life and the other looks after his DC whilst he waltzes in now and again to play Disney Dad and throw some of his wife's money at them.

WearyAuldWumman · 24/04/2025 13:38

Kitchi · 24/04/2025 13:23

No, she’s always signed them up for school trips and I think she’d pay if she had to (or her partner / parents would). She cares a lot about her image and not going on trips would affect that.

Good. Then she can pay for them.

Kitchi · 24/04/2025 13:38

TakeMeDancing · 24/04/2025 13:27

She emails you directly? “Sorry Deborah, no can do. I’m too poor—still trying to get my own poor self by with my old car and my weekly Aldi shop.”

This made me laugh!

I guess it’s all down to priorities and values. I’m happy with my cheap car and Aldi wine, paying for music and sports tuition and having some savings. She’s happy with her expensive tastes and probable credit card debt.

It’s tough for kids to be raised where there’s a difference in values between their homes. But whilst I’m happy to support SC, I’m not happy to support their unpleasant mother too.

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JustSawJohnny · 24/04/2025 13:35

I wouldn't be paying for any of it. It's not your responsibility.

Tell the Mother to have one less holiday a year and pay for it herself.

You need to let her know that everything she says about you is being fed back and that since she has no respect for you, you have no reason to pay extras for her kids.

TakeMeDancing · 24/04/2025 13:35

Kitchi · 24/04/2025 13:23

No, she’s always signed them up for school trips and I think she’d pay if she had to (or her partner / parents would). She cares a lot about her image and not going on trips would affect that.

Then it’s high time she stood on her own two feet to fund the face-saving trips, rather than forwarding the invoice to you.

Pyjamatimenow · 24/04/2025 13:34

Not only would I be refusing to pay I would be blocking her email and number as well. I don’t speak to dh’s ex. It’s his job to deal with her. You’re just opening yourself up to a shit load of issues.

WearyAuldWumman · 24/04/2025 13:33

Kitchi · 24/04/2025 12:35

About DH being too passive, this has been a boiled frog situation that’s developed over the past year and a half.

When we first got together, relations were bad between DH and his ex, with her doing things that are deliberately provocative (withholding and changing access at the last minute, refusing to let him speak to them for weeks on end whilst telling them he doesn’t care about them, refusing to let SC go to their aunt’s wedding, things like that) which ended up in arguments between them, which she then called the police about accusing him of being abusive. I was seriously concerned that things would escalate so took over a lot of the communication, formalised everything, and things were calm for years.

Since she found out I was pregnant this behaviour has started and has continually escalated. We’ve been taking a soft approach - entirely at my behest - because I thought it’d die down once she got bored of it, but it hasn’t.

I have honestly tried my best to build a coparenting relationship between DH and SC’s mum but it’s been impossible. She’s just not a very nice woman.

Just be careful. Latterly, I thought that I was getting on better with my late husband's ex. In our case, the kids were adults when she acquired her boyfriend, but she still managed to manipulate things.

(The final time that I had a conversation with the DIL, even she described the ex as 'jealous and controlling' - over the DIL's relationship with the son.)

The ex had me fooled. I actually thought that we were building a civilised relationship. I was wrong.

MellowPinkDeer · 24/04/2025 13:32

TakeMeDancing · 24/04/2025 13:27

She emails you directly? “Sorry Deborah, no can do. I’m too poor—still trying to get my own poor self by with my old car and my weekly Aldi shop.”

Or ‘f-off , stop emailing me and get a job’

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