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to be tired of the jealousy towards people who WFH?

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WFHFan · 24/04/2025 09:12

No one can post a thread about it without someone chiming in threatening if their job can done from home then it could be given to someone in another country or AI could take it.

Other people saying companies want everyone back in the office. Yes some do. Mine doesn't. They do not have the space anymore. Neither will my job go to someone in another country because of expertise and it does involve some critical face to face work. AI can't do it either.

Then some people getting offended saying if someone is WFH they shouldn't do anything else but work non stop. I can work and I do chores, shopping, school pick up, errands. It does not affect the standard or quantity of my work. I don't doubt it does affect some people's work.

I have won two awards for performance already.

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ChocolatesAndRainbows · 24/04/2025 16:43

nottheplan · 24/04/2025 15:27

Honestly that is a crazy remark. What does it matter to you where they work once the work is being done? Ridiculous point of view! (I'm not a civil servant BTW!)

Because it's public funded.

IndigoViolent · 24/04/2025 16:36

Also my tax pounds pay for civil servants to be working in an office not sitting in thr comfort and convenience of their own home while ppl without that luxury slog into work everyday.

Can you let me know how you’ve swung it to pick and choose what your taxes pay for? Because there’s quite a lot I don’t fancy paying for. I’d love to treat it all like some pick ‘n’ mix counter of services.

Snoringsboring · 24/04/2025 16:21

There's a lot of jealousy going around.

Reallyneedsaholiday · 24/04/2025 16:16

I'm not jealous at all of people who wfh, I'd go stark starring mad tbh. What concerns ME is that it could lead to discrimination against those unable to do so, due to businesses no longer wanting the overheads of an office/ building.

Kilroyonly · 24/04/2025 16:04

Lickityspit · 24/04/2025 15:53

I’m not jealous at all as I HATE working from home. I do one day and I resent working when I’m in the house. I am much more productive in the office. I like a defined work/home routine. But that’s just me and if it works for you and you get the work done then I don’t see an issue

I second that. WFH is a pita, I’m productive but the resources aren’t there entirely.

stayathomer · 24/04/2025 15:59

Have never had a bias against wfh for others but I could never do it- I like getting out, I love working with people and cheering up their days and the idea of me and a computer alone for the day brings me out in a rash (even though I double as a rom com writer and love getting to the pc after a day’s work!)

Lickityspit · 24/04/2025 15:53

I’m not jealous at all as I HATE working from home. I do one day and I resent working when I’m in the house. I am much more productive in the office. I like a defined work/home routine. But that’s just me and if it works for you and you get the work done then I don’t see an issue

CosyLemur · 24/04/2025 15:47

Honestly the people who work in the same company as me that work from home always have excuses about why they can't be on teams meetings or why they haven't met their deadlines. Usually things like "sorry my internet is playing up" but my personal favourite was "sorry my parents popped in and I needed to make them a drink"
I also work from home but have a rule, if there's a meeting scheduled I don't book appointments or answer the door. If I have a deadline I stick to it. But my company is starting to stop WFM and it won't be offered for any new employees.
Whilst the majority of people who WFM do it honestly and productively it's like everything the few that take the piss ruin it for everyone else.

Northernladdette · 24/04/2025 15:46

I know someone who works from home. Her Aunt dropped something off and she invited her in. She then complained to her mum that Auntie stayed forty five minutes “And I was supposed to be working”. 😳😳

AliBaliBee1234 · 24/04/2025 15:41

Totally agree with you. My role is a specialist for my company and that can't be outsourced or done by AI.

My company also sold off alot of office space.

Boring and silly arguments they make.

rosemarble · 24/04/2025 15:40

FedupofArsenalgame · 24/04/2025 14:08

True I personally couldn't think of anything bloody worse than WFH. My home is a place to relax not a workplace

I have a garden office, so I can 'go to work'. Apart from using the printer now and again outside of work I only use it to work in.
If I didn't have this separate space I would indeed find it hard.

rosemarble · 24/04/2025 15:38

it's just annoying how everyone assumes you can drop everything and be in for deliveries and appointments because you might be working from home.

I've WFH for many years. No one has ever assumed I can drop everything while I am working. Do you only know dim people who don't understand what work means?

CosyLemur · 24/04/2025 15:37

TheAmusedQuail · 24/04/2025 09:44

Why can't an EHCP application be done remotely @Gandalfatemyhamster ? What is there about it that requires you to be behind a desk in an office, rather than behind a desk, at home?

EHCP's require visits to see the child in a school/nursery/home school/hospital setting. Depending on the need it could require seeing various therapies in progress. It's not just form filling.

Kitchensnails · 24/04/2025 15:37

ChocolatesAndRainbows · 24/04/2025 15:18

It's not jealousy it's just annoying how everyone assumes you can drop everything and be in for deliveries and appointments because you might be working from home.

Also my tax pounds pay for civil servants to be working in an office not sitting in thr comfort and convenience of their own home while ppl without that luxury slog into work everyday.

Someone's been spending too long on X!

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 24/04/2025 15:27

ChocolatesAndRainbows · 24/04/2025 15:18

It's not jealousy it's just annoying how everyone assumes you can drop everything and be in for deliveries and appointments because you might be working from home.

Also my tax pounds pay for civil servants to be working in an office not sitting in thr comfort and convenience of their own home while ppl without that luxury slog into work everyday.

My taxes pay for civil servants to do their jobs. Doesn't matter to me if they're sat in an office or behind their desks at home.

I'd much rather that my taxes were put towards salaries for nurses, firefighters, extra police, facilities and services in the NHS etc than towards paying rents on office spaces.

nottheplan · 24/04/2025 15:27

ChocolatesAndRainbows · 24/04/2025 15:18

It's not jealousy it's just annoying how everyone assumes you can drop everything and be in for deliveries and appointments because you might be working from home.

Also my tax pounds pay for civil servants to be working in an office not sitting in thr comfort and convenience of their own home while ppl without that luxury slog into work everyday.

Honestly that is a crazy remark. What does it matter to you where they work once the work is being done? Ridiculous point of view! (I'm not a civil servant BTW!)

Kilroyonly · 24/04/2025 15:26

I think the general consensus is that anyone who works from home isn’t actually working & people don’t like that you are paid to be in your own home. I work in adult education & 3 days of 5 I’m in the college the other days I’m at home doing paperwork. It genuinely makes more sense than driving into work. But yes I do think it comes from jealousy but not because work requires a work place but that we have the freedom to dictate our own time

ACynicalDad · 24/04/2025 15:20

Gandalfatemyhamster · 24/04/2025 15:04

@ACynicalDadyou can see how this will play out as terrible for feminism though.
Men and women working mostly in office to build their careers. Women take time out to have babies and then WFH due to flexibility. Men stay visible in the office and get promoted.

For the last five years, my wife has been in the office and I've been the one at home popping out at 3.15 to get the kids. Some of it is down to couples agreeing between themselves how to run their lives. I know the default, but I also understand that some people prioritise more than their careers. One of my team members who got promoted recently is now in a job with some prospects for the first time since her child was born with disabilities and her husband left. We do need a range of opportunities for different people's aspirations and priorities, she couldn't do this job from an office.

ChocolatesAndRainbows · 24/04/2025 15:18

It's not jealousy it's just annoying how everyone assumes you can drop everything and be in for deliveries and appointments because you might be working from home.

Also my tax pounds pay for civil servants to be working in an office not sitting in thr comfort and convenience of their own home while ppl without that luxury slog into work everyday.

WFHFan · 24/04/2025 15:15

Praying4Peace · 24/04/2025 15:12

You have made the point that you are WFH whilst doing school runs, chores etc..
Are you working your contracted hours irrespective of your performance awards?

There is not a consistent workflow all the time. Sometimes I work more, sometimes I work less. It is the nature of the work. It ebbs and flows. I am often waiting for partner organisations to get back to me which leaves gaps so time to do school runs, chores, shopping, taking books back to the library etc

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WFHFan · 24/04/2025 15:12

Gandalfatemyhamster · 24/04/2025 15:04

@ACynicalDadyou can see how this will play out as terrible for feminism though.
Men and women working mostly in office to build their careers. Women take time out to have babies and then WFH due to flexibility. Men stay visible in the office and get promoted.

https://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/content/news/hybrid-working-could-drive-gender-promotion-gap/

Hybrid working could drive gender promotion gap - HR Magazine

Male tendency to prioritise the office over family time could widen gendered gaps in the workforce, according to professor of organisational psychology and health at University of Manchester Cary Cooper.

https://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/content/news/hybrid-working-could-drive-gender-promotion-gap

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Praying4Peace · 24/04/2025 15:12

WFHFan · 24/04/2025 09:12

No one can post a thread about it without someone chiming in threatening if their job can done from home then it could be given to someone in another country or AI could take it.

Other people saying companies want everyone back in the office. Yes some do. Mine doesn't. They do not have the space anymore. Neither will my job go to someone in another country because of expertise and it does involve some critical face to face work. AI can't do it either.

Then some people getting offended saying if someone is WFH they shouldn't do anything else but work non stop. I can work and I do chores, shopping, school pick up, errands. It does not affect the standard or quantity of my work. I don't doubt it does affect some people's work.

I have won two awards for performance already.

You have made the point that you are WFH whilst doing school runs, chores etc..
Are you working your contracted hours irrespective of your performance awards?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 24/04/2025 15:09

Gandalfatemyhamster · 24/04/2025 15:04

@ACynicalDadyou can see how this will play out as terrible for feminism though.
Men and women working mostly in office to build their careers. Women take time out to have babies and then WFH due to flexibility. Men stay visible in the office and get promoted.

I go to the office once a week. There's often no one "important" enough in the office to be visible to because they're also working from home most of the week.

Wouldn't matter if I was male or female. We're as visible as each other in that scenario.

Gandalfatemyhamster · 24/04/2025 15:04

@ACynicalDadyou can see how this will play out as terrible for feminism though.
Men and women working mostly in office to build their careers. Women take time out to have babies and then WFH due to flexibility. Men stay visible in the office and get promoted.

ACynicalDad · 24/04/2025 14:56

WFH suits people with young kids, particularly primary age. I am hugely fortunate that WFH works at the stage of building out my org. We have mainly mums at the moment who are mid-career and on decent money. The next stage will be building out our teams with early career (probably younger) people who enjoy the social interaction and learn from being together, so we will have to manage the transition to taking on an office. For me my youngest has three years left in primary and I think we will probably align quite closely. I expect legacy contracts will stay WFH, with new ones being hybrid. Today I have walked the dog and put out the washing, but I'll probably work once the kids are in bed too, so all works well. I look forward to the separation between work and home!