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to be tired of the jealousy towards people who WFH?

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WFHFan · 24/04/2025 09:12

No one can post a thread about it without someone chiming in threatening if their job can done from home then it could be given to someone in another country or AI could take it.

Other people saying companies want everyone back in the office. Yes some do. Mine doesn't. They do not have the space anymore. Neither will my job go to someone in another country because of expertise and it does involve some critical face to face work. AI can't do it either.

Then some people getting offended saying if someone is WFH they shouldn't do anything else but work non stop. I can work and I do chores, shopping, school pick up, errands. It does not affect the standard or quantity of my work. I don't doubt it does affect some people's work.

I have won two awards for performance already.

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PopThatBench · 24/04/2025 10:38

Sadang · 24/04/2025 10:28

What industry are you currently in? There are call centre jobs from home (those won’t be flex though) tech companies tend to be good for wfh (there are lots that are remote only companies),

I’m in the office but 90% of our workforce are electricians.
I book in their jobs and everything that goes with that. I do CAD drawings which would be the 1% I couldn’t do at home.
I could do probably 99% of my job WFH but the owners can’t micromanage us from home so they won’t let us.

CreationNat1on · 24/04/2025 10:37

SalfordQuays · 24/04/2025 10:31

If you’ve won awards for performance, while simultaneously doing chores, school pick ups, shopping, errands and napping, then you must have a very easy job!! Which makes me think it probably could be done by a robot, or maybe tacked onto someone else’s role. It doesn’t sound like a proper job to be honest, if you’re able to dip in as and when it suits you, and still be considered the best of the bunch, worthy of an award!

I’m not jealous, I’m a doctor so I could never do my job from home anyway, but I do think some people who WFH are slackers. My partner does hybrid working and admits he likes his WFH days, when he can laze around. He watched all the matches in the Euros!

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I ve also won awards, and also up skill on tech/AI enhancements by listening to podcasts during work time. I also nap, dog walk, chat to friends. Work is about the end product, there are many people who turn everything into a pilgrimage and try and make it about a performative journey. People who like to turn everything into a team project, so that they can hide in groups.

There are no medals for martyrs, if you make money for and protect your employer, you get paid and get bonuses.

Right, I need a nap.

MoominMai · 24/04/2025 10:37

Gandalfatemyhamster · 24/04/2025 09:30

The one thing I will say is that those who do work from home, with all the perks in terms of saving on petrol, parking, train fares, childcare, lunches, coffee etc must expect things like shortages in NHS staff, local authority staff, long waits in restaurants and cafes, food shortages, delays to online shopping orders. Because those industries who can’t allow WFH for obvious reasons are shedding staff. We can’t recruit in our local authority, not to jobs which require an office presence or visits etc. It’s becoming impossible. Jobs like family support workers, lunchtime supervisiors, even OTs used to flexible enough to tempt people, but now even 9.30-3 jobs isn’t enough when they can work 9-5 at home and pick up children, do life admin, have work done in the house at the same time.
So it boils my piss when you see WFH people moan about their child’s EHCP application taking so long. Everything has a knock on effect and those sectors such as teaching, nursing,social care, social work, childcare are going to need to give their employees something back to prevent a further mass exodus.

That’s a pretty huge assumption and massive over reaction. Actually, you could argue this is just nature evolution of the workplace given the technology is advanced enough to allow it. Also, young people hungry for work and experience will gladly take up any gaps in the market that supposedly wfh hungry people are leaving in their droves. I worked most my life in front facing jobs dealing with the public and it was extremely challenging but I enjoyed it and stuck it out as I could also see the benefits of the experience I was gaining. Now in my 50s I’ve become promoted to a project management role where I can wfh 3d per week and it’s fantastic as I’m older. So I and no doubt many others like me have done our time in the office and worked our ass off to get a better paid job with better working conditions. Also, I think you’re getting confused as most jobs are hybrid in the UK not wholly wfh.

Bluebellwood129 · 24/04/2025 10:35

SalfordQuays · 24/04/2025 10:31

If you’ve won awards for performance, while simultaneously doing chores, school pick ups, shopping, errands and napping, then you must have a very easy job!! Which makes me think it probably could be done by a robot, or maybe tacked onto someone else’s role. It doesn’t sound like a proper job to be honest, if you’re able to dip in as and when it suits you, and still be considered the best of the bunch, worthy of an award!

I’m not jealous, I’m a doctor so I could never do my job from home anyway, but I do think some people who WFH are slackers. My partner does hybrid working and admits he likes his WFH days, when he can laze around. He watched all the matches in the Euros!

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In some jobs, you're paid for your specific expertise not the number of hours you work so there's lots of flexibility during the day.

Newbie887 · 24/04/2025 10:35

I really hope WFH continues. For many jobs it makes way more sense than going into the office. Those jealous about it are being ridiculous / bitter. My partner WFH and he often barely gets a break and works earlier / later than he would in an office. But because he doesn’t have to commute it is ok. So really the company is getting more work out of him. On days when he is needed for school drop offs / pick ups / recitals / clubs etc etc he can usually work things about to help. It’s win win and way more efficient both work wise and family wise.

He goes into the office twice a week. Then comes home moaning about the long winded meetings and pointless conversations that have taken hours out of his work day lol. When he is at home he is focus as it’s just him in the house.

butterflycr · 24/04/2025 10:32

Even if I do occasional chores when working from home, I get as much if not more done than I do in the office.

People in the office don't actually sit down at their desk and work non stop until they go home.

There tends to be a lot of chat, cups of tea, being derailed by something else/ someone needing something, etc.

There is always going to be a portion of the day which isn't solid work, wherever you are. It's fine to put a load of washing on if you're at home.

UnimaginableWindBird · 24/04/2025 10:32

I much prefer my in-office job to WFH. I get up, have a nice walk at the start of the day, spend time in a nice building with interesting people with a comfy chair, good desk and on-hand IT support without seeing piles of undone housework all around me, have a variety of people to chat with when I take a break and lovely places to walk or eat lunch during my lunch break. I can stop off at the gym after work, do some exercise, have a sauna, pick up any little bits of shopping I need on the way home, and then switch off properly when I get home, with no work stuff around me.

On the occasions when I've had to work from home, I've been lonely, bored, not had a proper workspace and felt obligated to do more around the house.

SalfordQuays · 24/04/2025 10:31

If you’ve won awards for performance, while simultaneously doing chores, school pick ups, shopping, errands and napping, then you must have a very easy job!! Which makes me think it probably could be done by a robot, or maybe tacked onto someone else’s role. It doesn’t sound like a proper job to be honest, if you’re able to dip in as and when it suits you, and still be considered the best of the bunch, worthy of an award!

I’m not jealous, I’m a doctor so I could never do my job from home anyway, but I do think some people who WFH are slackers. My partner does hybrid working and admits he likes his WFH days, when he can laze around. He watched all the matches in the Euros!

Swampdonkey123 · 24/04/2025 10:31

I'm not sure there is as much jealousy as you think there is. I work in a role that can't be done from home, other than odd days. While I can absolutely see how WFH works for a lot of people, I would absolutely hate it. There must be a lot of people who feel like I do. There are a lot of positives in actually working with people and work being separate from home life.

xanthomelana · 24/04/2025 10:30

I’m not jealous of anyone who WFH, if I wanted to do the same I’d apply for a job which enables me to do so. I personally couldn’t think of anything worse because I’d miss the interaction with my colleagues. Also my ADHD would be saying go put the washing on/peg out/hoover and I know I wouldn’t be productive. That’s just me personally though and good luck to people who it works for, as long as you are happy in your job I wouldn’t worry what randoms on the internet think.

Asdffas · 24/04/2025 10:30

Nothing wrong with WFH. All I need to do my job is my laptop. I have a monitor at home so that's that.

buffyajp · 24/04/2025 10:29

Cornishbelle · 24/04/2025 09:28

These same people were happy during the lockdowns when they were furloughed and wfh peeps were having a massive juggle! Me and me Dh did a 18 hour day at work between us, home schooled two kids and cared for a toddler!

Except they aren’t. Not everybody who criticises is jealous. Some have perfectly valid points. Personally I don’t give a shit but I’m getting fed up with people who make the slightest criticism of something being accused of jealousy. It’s a weak response.You should be able to defend your position without lazy insults.

MurdoMunro · 24/04/2025 10:29

chouxchoux · 24/04/2025 09:56

At my workplace, someone refused to come back in at all (we're hybrid) after Covid as they'd sold their car.

Another because they'd acquired a dog.

🤔

People can provide whatever they like, it’s up to their manager to accept it or not. Same as someone being allowed to leave every day at 3 for a reason you don’t like. These anecdotes are meaningless.

Sadang · 24/04/2025 10:28

PopThatBench · 24/04/2025 10:26

I’m very jealous. I’m not even going to pretend I’m not 😂 I’d love to work from home!
My house was absolutely spotless when I was allowed to work from home for 1 week, I was still just as productive with my job.
I was more relaxed, less stressed, I managed to get odd jobs done, quickly wash my hair etc. which took up no more time than having a natter in the office or making a round of hot drinks.
My friend used to do 3 days at home and 2 in the office and she loved it too.
I’m pregnant so I’m waiting to go on maternity leave but seriously… what type of jobs are you in? I’ve looked and looked and can’t find a remote job.

What industry are you currently in? There are call centre jobs from home (those won’t be flex though) tech companies tend to be good for wfh (there are lots that are remote only companies),

MoominMai · 24/04/2025 10:27

Ablondiebutagoody · 24/04/2025 09:27

I dunno. To me it feels more like a chip on the shoulder of wfh people because office people think they are lazy skivers.

Hardly! It’s always those who don’t wfh with the permanent chip on their shoulder whining it’s not right that people do chores in-between their work because they’re missing the entire point of hybrid or wholly wfh that it’s meant to alllow the worker to develop a good life work balance.

PopThatBench · 24/04/2025 10:26

I’m very jealous. I’m not even going to pretend I’m not 😂 I’d love to work from home!
My house was absolutely spotless when I was allowed to work from home for 1 week, I was still just as productive with my job.
I was more relaxed, less stressed, I managed to get odd jobs done, quickly wash my hair etc. which took up no more time than having a natter in the office or making a round of hot drinks.
My friend used to do 3 days at home and 2 in the office and she loved it too.
I’m pregnant so I’m waiting to go on maternity leave but seriously… what type of jobs are you in? I’ve looked and looked and can’t find a remote job.

Member869894 · 24/04/2025 10:25

YABU. I'd be jealous of my job. After years of long commutes, office politics, frantic cleaning at weekends and forever being behind on life admin I am on top of things. I work very hard but still have time to run the hoover around,prepare dinner etc in my breaks.,although i dont leave home during work hours. The time I used to spend commuting is now spent on walking the dog. Sometime I miss company but rarely.

mrsm43s · 24/04/2025 10:23

I fully WfH under an Occ Health referral - without this I'd be hybrid and in the office 2 days per week. I worked hybrid (50%) prior to Covid.

I think that over time we will see things shift with regard to WfH. I think that, for generally office based roles, salaries will stagnate for WfH jobs, and will have to rise for in office jobs in order to recruit. I think hybrid will be the way forward for most jobs that could be done/partially done from home, but I suspect hybrid will be at least 50% in the office rather than just one day a week etc.

I think retail will likely be picked up more by young people/students and won't really be seen as a desirable long term career choice. Potentially hospitality too.

But ultimately I think the pay rates of certain jobs will end up changing somewhat in response to how desirable the jobs are. And for the majority, WfH is desirable, so those jobs will end up paying less or being harder to secure.

GiveMeWordGames · 24/04/2025 10:23

My work is split between remote and in-person depending on the client (pre-Covid it was 100% in person). When I commute to an in-person job on Mondays or Fridays I silently bless the WFH/hybrid people for the lovely empty trains, quieter tubes and bizarre queueless Prets at 8.30 am in the city. 😁

WFHFan · 24/04/2025 10:23

MichaelandKirk · 24/04/2025 10:08

I do smile when people say if they can do their 'job' in half the time then bring on the chores, school pick up etc?

Surely their 'job' is not set up correctly to be a full time role if they can do it quickly.

I have done both wfh (and see clients half the time) and fully office based.

I worked in a job during Covid that couldnt be done at home.

My previous company (large FTSE) only allowed middle to senior managers to work from home. The more junior admin roles were allowed on a trial basis and massively took the piss. Could never find them, never around for urgent calls, constantly asking for more and more devices to work from home such as special chairs etc. In the end management put a stop to it. It is actually quite tricky to take someone to task for taking advantage of working from home. That is why it was stopped. A colleague of mine tried and she knew that the employee was doing all sorts. Difficult to prove and it took her months of really focusing on exactly what this person was doing before HR allowed her to tackle it. In the meantime the other 8 members of her team were not getting the attention they needed.

I was a line manager for a while. I had six people. I would say that ONE person took up 50% of my time. She was often off sick for a day here and there a lot. I let that go. Seemed to struggle with the job but wanted the salary so wouldnt admit it. Brought all her personal problems to work i.e cat wasnt well, could she work from home, needed to work from home because she wanted to attend a parents evening which came up about 20 times a year!. I called her once and heard children crying in the background. She said BOTH her children were off sick.

In the end I left the role and my successor found she had been working from home as much as she could to do childcare. Her Mum was on stand by if she couldnt think of any more reasons not to come in.

Its bloody rife

They are often quiet times in some roles. My job has ebbs and flows. January is quiet so I was told I didn't have to go in at all and it will be the same over the summer too.

It is not that the job has not been set up correctly.

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Katypp · 24/04/2025 10:22

WFHFan · 24/04/2025 10:20

It has been embraced 100% by my company. They have committed to it for the future. It has allowed them to take on additional staff now they no longer to provide a desk for every person.

I am attached to an office 200 miles from where I live. My part of the company is entirely home-based with no expectation of going into the office. I have a wfh contract. It's great, isn't it?

topcat2014 · 24/04/2025 10:22

I do not want to WFH - I would find it boring, I need people in my life.

Having worked in an office where some colleagues WFH and some didn't, there is resentment from the office folk who feel the WFH colleagues have a simpler life because they only do specific tasks, and never get disrupted by random events in the workplace, like visitors etc.

WFHFan · 24/04/2025 10:20

MichaelandKirk · 24/04/2025 10:13

If it really worked wouldnt companies embrace it? Encourage it as it leads to more productivty - oh wait......

It has been embraced 100% by my company. They have committed to it for the future. It has allowed them to take on additional staff now they no longer to provide a desk for every person.

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Katypp · 24/04/2025 10:20

I've wfh for the past 4 years, my dh for the past six. We love it BUT we are towards the end if our careers. I think wfh is not a good thing for younger people starting out because a lot of learning is 'passive', seeing others do something, office banter etc, which they don't get wfh.
I've never had any animosity shown to me because I wfh, but then I've never had any because I don't drink alcohol or had an only child for 11 years or all the other things MNetters seem to imagine either.

Emma543 · 24/04/2025 10:19

Not going to lie I’m super jealous of people who can work from home! I would absolutely love to but as a physio there’s not many who would want a hands off service 😂