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Called out colleague in team meeting

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Vergus · 23/04/2025 19:38

I have a colleague, let’s call her Sophie. I’ve worked with her for 5 years, albeit not in the same workstream. We only come together for an all-teams meeting, which usually takes place online. For some reason she dislikes me. Whenever I speak up in the team meeting I can see her sniggering and laughing and typing to her friend. It only happens to me. Today was so obvious. She was pulling weird gurney faces (when you try not to laugh and are violently suppressing it.)

She has no reason to be threatened by me - I am below her on the professional rung, I am 10 yrs older than her, I have never done anything that might offend or provoke her. The team manager and other colleagues think highly of her. She is very driven, and has excellent relationships with others. And yet she has clearly decided to target me.

I’ve put up with this shit for years and today I had enough. I could see her laughing away in the screen - I’d only been speaking 2 mins. I said - “anyway, I can see Sophie laughing so I’m going to shut up now.” She then blustered on with something like - “no, I didn’t know what we were discussing - the data or the finance aspect.” I explained what I’d done again very briefly and then said “but that’s me done, I’m done,” and then my agenda item was over. By this point I could see the messaging was still going on between her and her mate but no more laughing.

I turned off my camera and within seconds a message popped up from her. “Are you ok Vegas? You’ve disappeared! You are very articulate.”

I haven’t replied. I am not sure I should. I am fed up with her making me feel bad, and then not having the fucking courage to own it but texting me separately to smooth things over and get me on side. I believe she wants me to say “yes, I’m fine!” but fuck it, I’m not, because I’m not done, and I’m actually quite upset. I am a 43 yr old woman who feels like she’s being picked on in the school playground. I can see her visibly sniggering at me - it’s gone on for years. And no one else notices (mostly men who don’t notice tbh) but today I just had enough. I want her to leave me alone

OP posts:
Vergus · 23/04/2025 20:55

@Itisjustmyopinion

She has deliberately messaged you privately to get a response from you that she can use against you.

Knowing her as I do I unfortunately think this as well. Which is what stopped me from replying. I don’t trust her an inch - whatever I write or type in reply will be used against me somehow. I have the feeling she wants me to “bite” because that would play into her hands. So I won’t. I hate this, it’s so ridiculous but these are the games she plays. I wish she’d just fucking go away

OP posts:
Trickabrick · 23/04/2025 20:54

DaftOldBiddy · 23/04/2025 20:48

Lol. But no. I would just hate to work with someome who assumed me laughing and typing in the background of a call was targetted at them. It's not the 1950s anymore.

I’d hate to work with someone who laughs and types away when someone else is presenting on a call but there you go 🤷🏻‍♀️

Itisjustmyopinion · 23/04/2025 20:54

DaftOldBiddy · 23/04/2025 20:48

Lol. But no. I would just hate to work with someome who assumed me laughing and typing in the background of a call was targetted at them. It's not the 1950s anymore.

Well in any team I have been in it’s deemed very unprofessional to be having your own thing going on while someone else is presenting

Nothing to do with sense of humour and everything to do with being polite

I am surprised OP’s team manager hasn’t said anything as I wouldn’t stand for any of my team (all pretty senior people themselves) having a laugh and joke when someone else was speaking

Keroppi · 23/04/2025 20:54

Regardless of who the laughing and typing is about it is totally unprofessional. You presumably wouldn't be sniggering or smiling happily at nothing in an in person meeting so why tolerate it online?

blueshoes · 23/04/2025 20:52

DaftOldBiddy · 23/04/2025 20:48

Lol. But no. I would just hate to work with someome who assumed me laughing and typing in the background of a call was targetted at them. It's not the 1950s anymore.

You are laughing and typing whilst someone is presenting and don't see anything wrong with that?

Utterly unprofessional and breathtakingly rude. I am surprised you are even paid to work when you don't know how to behave in a workplace.

Itisjustmyopinion · 23/04/2025 20:51

I wouldn’t reply but in any meeting now whether it’s a small group or full team meeting, anytime she starts any of that shit I would just stop talking and say “let’s wait until we have Sophie with us, she seems distracted right now”

She has deliberately messaged you privately to get a response from you that she can use against you. Keep any conversations and call outs with her public. That will piss her off even more if she values her reputation with the seniors

DaftOldBiddy · 23/04/2025 20:48

Lol. But no. I would just hate to work with someome who assumed me laughing and typing in the background of a call was targetted at them. It's not the 1950s anymore.

Cakeandusername · 23/04/2025 20:48

I took you are very articulate to be a jibe at Op having the gumption to clearly and firmly call her out in front of a large team meeting.

blueshoes · 23/04/2025 20:46

Rhaidimiddim · 23/04/2025 20:43

Hi, Sophie!

Grin
Keroppi · 23/04/2025 20:45

'You are very articulate' would have me thinking she thinks I talk too much or is gossiping about that! I hate the social mind games some colleagues do
Ignore and practice an amused indifference

I also think you should request a SAR on her internal/teams convos in case she is stupid enough to slag you off on there. My old coworker and friend did this and won a few £K suing the company for workplace bullying!

Notimeforaname · 23/04/2025 20:44

I don't feel like that was "calling her out".

If it were me I would reply to her and tell her if I see her laughing at me again I will 100% report her for workplace bullying..

Rhaidimiddim · 23/04/2025 20:43

DaftOldBiddy · 23/04/2025 20:41

This is hilarious. So you are the colleague who has no sense of humour and is entirely self focused.

The person you think is laughing at you mught just be happy! Or having a laugh about anything else. Major jumping to conclusions. Lighten up.

Hi, Sophie!

DaftOldBiddy · 23/04/2025 20:41

This is hilarious. So you are the colleague who has no sense of humour and is entirely self focused.

The person you think is laughing at you mught just be happy! Or having a laugh about anything else. Major jumping to conclusions. Lighten up.

cryingandshaking · 23/04/2025 20:41

Or how about next time, pause and say “sorry everybody, I think Sophie is trying to get my attention. How can I help you Sophie?” while being icily polite. Or something like this. You need to call it out every single time, others will soon get the gist if they haven’t already noticed.

Frostynoman · 23/04/2025 20:40

Are these meetings recorded?

Imisscoffee2021 · 23/04/2025 20:39

She's been banking on you not calling her out and now she's shitting herself in the most textbook and obvious way when insidious bullies get noticed. She's trying to close it down, trying to do it behind closed doors so it isn't noticed and stop you taking it further or continuing your no nonsense stance (well done op!)

I'd wait before replying, see if she messages again. Or if you feel very strongly you should speak to your manager to explain the situation and that you're fine but just reached the end of your patience but wish to remain professional. I wouldn't reply at all actually as that closes the door on her chances to back track or try to control the narrative.

AngelicKaty · 23/04/2025 20:39

@Vergus Really well done on calling her out OP and also for resisting the temptation to reply - keep resisting that temptation. As others have said, your silence will be spooking her - she may even worry that you're considering raising a grievance. The great thing is that, having put up with her childish, unprofessional behaviour for so long, finally calling her out must have given you a confidence boost, so doing so again in the future if necessary will be easier - although I have a feeling she won't get up to this nonsense again now she knows you're no pushover. 😉

cryingandshaking · 23/04/2025 20:38

Are there any rules against recording these online meetings? If not, could you collect “footage” of her behaviour when you are speaking, to show to your manager?

Mickeychampionwhatgoodami · 23/04/2025 20:37

I wouldn't reply, leave her too stew.
I'd speak with a manager to clear it up once and for all

Baffy · 23/04/2025 20:37

Huge well done to you!

Like others have said, absolutely don't reply to her message.

Next time she does it... "Anything you wanted to add Sophie"?!

newchapternewday · 23/04/2025 20:35

I had a very similar experience with a colleague called Sophie! She was also a bully, some younger colleagues were taken in by her but older members of the team had the measure of her... Good for you for sticking up for yourself.

TryingToBeHelpful267 · 23/04/2025 20:35

She sounds like a nasty bully. Well done for calling her out. It might stop now.

WiddlinDiddlin · 23/04/2025 20:35

I'd raise it with whoever is appropriate...

Either she is actively laughing/bitching about you etc, or she is just pissing about... but either way she is not paying attention to what you're saying in the meeting and she should be (or else why is she there).

Draw someone elses attention to it, perhaps those messages to friend/another colleague will be reviewed and she will land herself right in the shit.

Pancakeflipper · 23/04/2025 20:35

Oh well done you - well played.

And don't respond to her message.

Mathswizzer · 23/04/2025 20:34

Of course if she's typing then that's probably on teams which is covered by work communications. You could put in a freedom of information request and include references to you on her computer. You could put in a grievance and state your case. They could then pull her conversation listing at the time of the call. Would be interesting.
I hate this shit so if you would rather not work with her then it's worth a shot. Worse case you find another job but bullies always come undone.
Just a note tho... if you haven't replied to her beware she will be drumming up support behind the scenes and likely spreading negativity to strengthen herself.

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