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Called out colleague in team meeting

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Vergus · 23/04/2025 19:38

I have a colleague, let’s call her Sophie. I’ve worked with her for 5 years, albeit not in the same workstream. We only come together for an all-teams meeting, which usually takes place online. For some reason she dislikes me. Whenever I speak up in the team meeting I can see her sniggering and laughing and typing to her friend. It only happens to me. Today was so obvious. She was pulling weird gurney faces (when you try not to laugh and are violently suppressing it.)

She has no reason to be threatened by me - I am below her on the professional rung, I am 10 yrs older than her, I have never done anything that might offend or provoke her. The team manager and other colleagues think highly of her. She is very driven, and has excellent relationships with others. And yet she has clearly decided to target me.

I’ve put up with this shit for years and today I had enough. I could see her laughing away in the screen - I’d only been speaking 2 mins. I said - “anyway, I can see Sophie laughing so I’m going to shut up now.” She then blustered on with something like - “no, I didn’t know what we were discussing - the data or the finance aspect.” I explained what I’d done again very briefly and then said “but that’s me done, I’m done,” and then my agenda item was over. By this point I could see the messaging was still going on between her and her mate but no more laughing.

I turned off my camera and within seconds a message popped up from her. “Are you ok Vegas? You’ve disappeared! You are very articulate.”

I haven’t replied. I am not sure I should. I am fed up with her making me feel bad, and then not having the fucking courage to own it but texting me separately to smooth things over and get me on side. I believe she wants me to say “yes, I’m fine!” but fuck it, I’m not, because I’m not done, and I’m actually quite upset. I am a 43 yr old woman who feels like she’s being picked on in the school playground. I can see her visibly sniggering at me - it’s gone on for years. And no one else notices (mostly men who don’t notice tbh) but today I just had enough. I want her to leave me alone

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Firefly100 · 24/04/2025 10:46

Hi OP, well done for standing up for yourself. The only thing I would add is I would not stop because she is laughing - why should she get the power to cut you short? I would rather do a version of: 'before I continue, can I just check Sophie why are you laughing?' Then silence, until she replies. Then use whatever she says to formulate a response. Assuming she does a version of 'nothing to do with you guv' sorry, then say 'well if you are finished now I'll continue...'. And I would do it every.single.time.
I also would not reply to her subsequent message. Agree she is trying to get some dirt on you she can use to paint you in the wrong.
God I hate people like that.
Gather your proofs and document everything and if she does not pack it in, when you have enough raise a complaint - make sure it is watertight though. Try very hard not to have 1 on 1 conversations with her if possible - she will lie.

SerafinasGoose · 24/04/2025 10:27

Vergus · 23/04/2025 20:55

@Itisjustmyopinion

She has deliberately messaged you privately to get a response from you that she can use against you.

Knowing her as I do I unfortunately think this as well. Which is what stopped me from replying. I don’t trust her an inch - whatever I write or type in reply will be used against me somehow. I have the feeling she wants me to “bite” because that would play into her hands. So I won’t. I hate this, it’s so ridiculous but these are the games she plays. I wish she’d just fucking go away

You've handled this superbly, OP. Her behaviour in the meetings was rude and unprofessional and you pulled her up in just the right tone. No confrontation, no making other team members embarrassed, just a frank acknowledgement that you've clocked what she was doing.

And if it's really true that 'men don't notice' this type of behaviour, they also won't notice lightly made comments should she repeat in future: such as 'are you okay there, Sophie, was there something you wanted to add?' Another good strategy against snide, PA digs is also to ask them to repeat what they said.

I agree with your inclination not to respond. No interaction offside/offscreen is much the safest measure. Bullies dislike silence because they can't argue with it. You'll also be giving her absolutely no ammunition. You can't be disciplined for something you haven't said.

Kudos!

user1471538283 · 24/04/2025 10:26

Well done! I've been in 2 meetings in the past where I was blindsided by a group lead by my manager and what I should have done was walk out and look for another job.

Fortunately she isn't your manager and I agree do not respond to her. Anything from her from now on is in writing.

I've found that some people are just jealous of you for just being you.

Changeyourlifes · 24/04/2025 10:24

I think you should ignore her message but screenshot it and start creating a diary.

I think you should ultimately have a hard conversation with yourself:

  • would you be taken seriously if you complained about her?
  • would management choose her over you?
  • would your workplace become more intolerable?
  • is this environment healthy for you?
  • is it worth looking for other jobs now before things get worse?

The first time this happened you should have taken action.

i can guess what her next move is, she’s going to say that YOU are bullying her. That you embarrassed her in front of everyone. That you’re always difficult and snapping at her. It’s a textbook move to attack before you are attacked in toxic workplaces

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 24/04/2025 10:05

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2025 08:11

I'm with this poster. I'm constantly typing during Teams meetings and so do many of my colleagues, because they are so boring and not all parts of the meeting are relevant to everyone. Sometimes this typing is doing some work, sometimes it's chit chat, sometimes it's funny and we have a laugh but it's never aimed at a particular person.

If you were in a face to face meeting at the office, none of this would be acceptable behaviour, so why is it acceptable in Teams? I’m beginning to think that wfh all the time just makes people more unprofessional.

Have you really never encountered people doing their emails, reading something unrelated or even having a side chat in in-person meetings? I'm not saying it's good or polite practice, but it is very common!

Mumofoneandone · 24/04/2025 10:02

Well done for calling her out but I think you need to contact HR about her behaviour - to protect yourself as well. Keep notes about her behaviour towards you...

thestudio · 24/04/2025 10:01

Ugh, she sounds vile. But you haven't responded to the idea of speaking to your manager so they can speak to hers - is there something in particular holding you back OP? Worth thinking through what makes you anxious about that idea.

I think if I were you I would say to your manager effectively ''you probably noticed that I mentioned Sophie's actions today - I haven't previously because I have wanted to take the high ground, but it's been going on for years."

Leave it there and see how they respond - put the ball in their court. I think it will be useful to know how the land lies, and then you can make a decision on next steps if any.

LazyArsedMagician · 24/04/2025 10:00

Hastentoadd · 23/04/2025 22:09

If you are careful, no they can’t seer it, you need to lift your hand up very close to the screen when you are doing it ….out of view of the camera

You can also turn the camera off for a couple of seconds while you are doing it, then turn it back on

Edited

Is anyone really going to notice though? If I did, I'd assume that a person was wiping a smudge off the screen or something. I'd never think it was placing a post it over someone!

2pence · 24/04/2025 09:36

The laughing is bullying (humiliation) and the typing while you’re talking is micro-aggression (also bullying). You were right to call it out. Keep doing it. As suggested, being curious (not furious) is the way to go. Ask a question about the behaviour you’re witnessing. Try to keep the question as neutral as possible so you avoid falling into the parent/child trap; keep it adult. Your response was a little passive aggressive but, if you have to call Sophie out again, you can simply describe the behaviour you’re witnessing (I see Sophie laughing) and then ask her to explain why.

Maplesy10 · 24/04/2025 09:20

A SAR request is obviously only something one does if you intend to ask for their grievance policy.

But calmly stopping and asking every time she laughs in future, if she does, and keeping careful note of times, is wise.

Prinade · 24/04/2025 09:20

Definitely don’t reply OP!!

well done you’re winning ! 💪

LittleBitofBread · 24/04/2025 09:09

I wouldn't reply either. Let her sweat. If it happens in future meetings, I'd go with a polite 'Sophie, did you want to say something?' so all eyes are on her.

Cluborange666 · 24/04/2025 09:09

Well done OP. You dealt with it really well. Definitely don’t reply. Don’t give her ammo and let her stew.

doodahdayy · 24/04/2025 09:00

I detest bullies. Well done for speaking up op. She seems like a sly little snake so it would be hard to prove anything, but do start documenting it. Hopefully she’ll leave you alone now she knows you’re wise to her.

MyDeftDuck · 24/04/2025 08:49

This colleague is clearly bullying you OP and IMO I think you should report this to your line manager and take the matter up with HR. Her behaviour is immature, unprofessional and unacceptable plus it could potential damage the company if things escalate.
You did the right thing in calling her out and clearly you have reached the end of your tether with her vile attitude towards you.
Hope you’re ok today.

Nominative · 24/04/2025 08:37

cryingandshaking · 23/04/2025 20:41

Or how about next time, pause and say “sorry everybody, I think Sophie is trying to get my attention. How can I help you Sophie?” while being icily polite. Or something like this. You need to call it out every single time, others will soon get the gist if they haven’t already noticed.

This. You should really have been doing this from the first time she tried it on.

newdiamondring · 24/04/2025 08:25

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2025 08:11

I'm with this poster. I'm constantly typing during Teams meetings and so do many of my colleagues, because they are so boring and not all parts of the meeting are relevant to everyone. Sometimes this typing is doing some work, sometimes it's chit chat, sometimes it's funny and we have a laugh but it's never aimed at a particular person.

If you were in a face to face meeting at the office, none of this would be acceptable behaviour, so why is it acceptable in Teams? I’m beginning to think that wfh all the time just makes people more unprofessional.

💯 agree.

newdiamondring · 24/04/2025 08:25

DaftOldBiddy · 23/04/2025 20:48

Lol. But no. I would just hate to work with someome who assumed me laughing and typing in the background of a call was targetted at them. It's not the 1950s anymore.

Yeah but she's acting inappropriately. She wouldn't behave like this in a physical meeting so she shouldn't on a Teams call either. It's very rude and extremely unprofessional.

motherhen27 · 24/04/2025 08:23

I think she messaged you to gauge your response. She’s panicking that you’ve clocked her and wants to smooth things over hence the sickly compliment. Your silence will worry her more, she knows you’re pissed off but she doesn’t know what you’ll do next.

Well done for standing up to her. I feel like saying ‘what’s so funny Sophie?’ would have been more assertive than conceding you’ll shut up because of her behaviour, but either way you’ve let her know that her bitchiness hasn’t gone unnoticed.

Keirawr · 24/04/2025 08:14

Shes trying to gaslight you into thinking you are irrational. You should reply. And call out in writing, calling out her behaviours objectively. Use examples and stay calm. Then ask how she plans to address this?

Then watch her squirm.

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2025 08:11

I'm with this poster. I'm constantly typing during Teams meetings and so do many of my colleagues, because they are so boring and not all parts of the meeting are relevant to everyone. Sometimes this typing is doing some work, sometimes it's chit chat, sometimes it's funny and we have a laugh but it's never aimed at a particular person.

If you were in a face to face meeting at the office, none of this would be acceptable behaviour, so why is it acceptable in Teams? I’m beginning to think that wfh all the time just makes people more unprofessional.

Calmdownpeople · 24/04/2025 08:09

CJsGoldfish · 24/04/2025 02:33

Yeah, that's not really 'calling out' your colleague.
So, for a little perspective, this is the situation you've put together:
Worked together for 5 years but only come together in team meetings
Colleague is well liked, everyone thinks highly of her
She was pulling weird faces in your most recent meeting as if she 'violently' wanted to laugh
You KNOW that she is typing 'to her friend' and that whatever she is typing 'to her friend' is about you
She once did a 'bullying' 'look' when a nice colleague started speaking to some one else. You managed to successfully interpret this 'look' so you could make your unaware colleague aware. And HOW DARE SHE PICK ON SOMEONE with the look only you saw
No one else in 5 years has noticed any of this

I'm wondering why you seem to be obsessively watching her in meetings. That is weird in itself
The 'mob' mentality here is crazy. She's a bully, a bitch, catty, spiteful, a 'school bully' etc etc.
Talking about accessing her messages because the OP is sure it's all about her. Fucking nuts. Sure, go on a fishing expedition. "I think Sophie was messaging her friend about me" I need to see them.

Do people really carry on like this in the workplace. Where every 'look' is nasty bullying. It puts a whole new spin on all those posts of women who are 'too stressed' to go to work 🙄

Could not agree more. Anyone ever thought that maybe Sophie and her friend just weren’t listening in the meeting and messaging between themselves something they found funny.

OP you have really made a mountain out of a mole hill and no this isn’t in any way calling someone out. In fact you have just played into it and said you are done.

QuickHare · 24/04/2025 08:00

I'm very impressed by the OP who sounds very together

SuperTrooper14 · 24/04/2025 07:57

I see the mean girl apologists are out in force. OP knows this person, she’s worked with her for five years and there has been a clear and consistent pattern of behaviour by this person in these meetings of sniggering only when it’s OP’s turn to talk. But yeah, you’re all right - she clearly must be laughing at something else every single time. 🙄

LiveLifeLong · 24/04/2025 07:51

Good for you. I had a Manager bad mouth me in an online meeting once. It was awful, one colleague laughed, a slow sarcastic laugh and someone I thought was a ‘colleague’ and ‘friend’. The others said nothing and I just didn’t know how to reply. You dealt with it well. Do let us know if she follows it up?

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