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Can kids do gymnastics on the field at playtime?

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Trallers · 23/04/2025 18:23

At my school the kids have been told by some members of staff that they are allowed to do gymnastics moves but only ones they "know how to do" and not ones they are learning. It's outrageously unsafe isn't it? The head doesn't 'allow' it but some staff members seem to, despite me raising it repeatedly. I tell the kids not to but they don't understand why something they are good at is dangerous, especially when the teacher on duty yesterday said it was fine. Plus they aren't always in ears reach so I have to watch them do 6 back flips in a row, or an aerial cartwheel, as I race across the grass. It's actually making me want to quit as we roll into summer and it's every bloody day. Throw in all the other poor behaviour and I'm tearing my hair out! I have a feeling this isn't happening at other schools as none I've spoken to allow it - would be interested to hear wider responses though.

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Allthingsbrightandbeautifulx · 23/04/2025 19:55

crumblingschools · 23/04/2025 18:57

I assume there is a difference between a cartwheel and an aerial move?

Do gymnastic clubs let their students do such moves on a hard surface? With other children running around them?

Yes they’re different, Aerial your hands don’t touch the floor but body moves in the same way as doing a cartwheel. So basically run, rebound and turn/flip in the air and land.
Definitely not something my DD is allowed to do at school. Instructed by her gymnastics coach to only do it supervised by her or one of the other coaches.
I’ve seen 2 bad injuries at daughter’s previous gymnastics when kids have tried doing aerials when they hadn’t yet mastered it. One girl broke her arm - literally snapped in 2 and the other child broke their collarbone!!

Trallers · 23/04/2025 19:54

StillAGoth · 23/04/2025 19:34

A previous poster described kids at a competition being injured, which happens all the time. The presence of a coach doesn't stop this - if anything the kids might feel more pressured to push themselves to do risky things with a coach there. However will children learn to make their own individual assessments of risk if we don't let them try, and play.

That was me.

Tbh, as a parent, I was happy to let children my take risks. And,.of course, I understand all of the benefits of taking risks. And allowing children to assess their own capabilities and risk etc.

But 20 years as a teacher has also taught me that you don't allow anything that the HT hasn't approved and that, if something goes wrong, the parents will blame you personally.

Exactly this. It's frustrating as the head is clear about the rules if asked, but the enforcement is weak. I have a feeling it would be just as you described if something dire happened, and any staff who permitted something technically allowed would be thrown under the bus, despite the day to day culture feeling very permissive.

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CaptainMyCaptain · 23/04/2025 19:54

craigth162 · 23/04/2025 18:37

We used to do cartwheels, leap frog, handstands etc on the concrete at play time. Honestly the world is going mad if kids can't play freely. Surely football could be just as dangerous but you have no issue with this?

This. It's just normal childhood play. The Nursery teacher at my school was praised by an ofsted inspector for letting the children climb trees. They were allowed to roll down the grassy bank too. The horror!

Iamaverysillyperson · 23/04/2025 19:54

Funnily enough, one of my 7 year olds told me after school today that a classmate had told her not to do cartwheels, as it wasn't a gymnastics gym!

Blondeshavemorefun · 23/04/2025 19:52

AhBiscuits · 23/04/2025 19:27

I don't think my 9 year old has passed a patch of grass without doing some kind of gymnastics on it in the last 5 years. It's a normal part of being a kid. You're being ridiculous.

Same with my 7 now 8yr

tho can be pavement - shop floor (making sure room lol)

it’s natural to her

her bff got her a T-shirt. Why walk when You can cartwheel 💖

Trallers · 23/04/2025 19:49

saltinesandcoffeecups · 23/04/2025 19:37

Then you just tell the girls on the days you are supervising that they need to limit it to cartwheels..etc. They’ll come back with ‘Miss X lets us do Y” (insert whiny voice here) and you come back with. “Well that’s between you and Miss X when I’m here you stick to cartwheels”

Then if something happens it’s on Miss X’s watch and not yours.

Yes this is my current tack but the inconsistencies in approaches ends up using a lot of time having the same conversation every playtime so I really wish the head would be clear with all staff.

Despite a pp's insistence that I don't like these girls I actually think they're fab so will have the same conversation endlessly with them rather than get them sent in or in trouble. My issue is with the lack of clarity with rules really rather than the kids.

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StillAGoth · 23/04/2025 19:44

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 23/04/2025 19:39

What makes you think she dislikes them?

She works in a school. The only possible reason for her concern is that she's mean and hates childen! Wink

Trallers · 23/04/2025 19:40

mummytoonetryingfortwo · 23/04/2025 19:35

So you’ve singled out a group of girls that you dislike, and despite multiple people saying it’s fine, you’ll continue to be upset by it.

Honestly just move on.

A group of girls I dislike 🤣

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mummytoonetryingfortwo · 23/04/2025 19:40

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 23/04/2025 19:39

What makes you think she dislikes them?

She’s been told multiple times it’s normal and it’s happened for years. She still continues and suggests that they’re encouraging younger girls to do things they’re not ready for.

SquigglePigs · 23/04/2025 19:39

Trallers · 23/04/2025 18:48

Huge long tumbles with multiple back flips and other flips that don't involve their hands touching the floor at all. If they got knocked by another child and fell on their head they'd be risk of a terrible neck injury imo. But I seem to be in the minority in worrying about it which to be fair fits with the unbotheredness at school.

To be fair this does sound a bit much and definite potential for injury. I can understand why you're uncomfortable with this level of gymnastics.

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 23/04/2025 19:39

mummytoonetryingfortwo · 23/04/2025 19:35

So you’ve singled out a group of girls that you dislike, and despite multiple people saying it’s fine, you’ll continue to be upset by it.

Honestly just move on.

What makes you think she dislikes them?

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 23/04/2025 19:38

When I was at school someone broke their finger and ankle doing a cartwheel on the school field because they tripped on a rabbit hole. The field was riddled with rabbit holes.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 23/04/2025 19:37

Trallers · 23/04/2025 19:26

I perhaps wasn't clear - staff member on a different day said it was fine, but that staff member is not currently outside supervising. I think the staff are putting themselves at risk too if something happened and they'd allowed it, but that's between them and the head who doesn't seem to care that they make their own rules.

Then you just tell the girls on the days you are supervising that they need to limit it to cartwheels..etc. They’ll come back with ‘Miss X lets us do Y” (insert whiny voice here) and you come back with. “Well that’s between you and Miss X when I’m here you stick to cartwheels”

Then if something happens it’s on Miss X’s watch and not yours.

SquigglePigs · 23/04/2025 19:36

My 6 yr old DD spends most of her breaks/lunchtimes doing gymnastics with her friends and some of the older girls. She's learnt loads from them and improved quickly with all the practice. I was the same at her age!

PetrovaRabbit · 23/04/2025 19:36

Do they all go to the same gymnastics club? Can you ring the club and have a chat to the head coach about what’s going on? Then they could perhaps talk to all the kids about what’s is and isn’t safe to be doing on grass without a coach present?

HugelyExpensiveCrystalDuck · 23/04/2025 19:35

Ban football if you are worried about balls flying about’.

At my school we get mats out at lunchtime. Also tuff spots with Lego, cars etc.

mummytoonetryingfortwo · 23/04/2025 19:35

Trallers · 23/04/2025 19:33

There are roughly 6-7 very proficient girls, and maybe another 15 who are less advanced but who enjoy doing their cartwheels etc with the gymnastics crowd and might be tempted to try something above their ability. These are all normally split into 2-3 groups and they aren't all the same year. Then there are other girls dotted around just doing regular handstands etc no problem at all.

So you’ve singled out a group of girls that you dislike, and despite multiple people saying it’s fine, you’ll continue to be upset by it.

Honestly just move on.

StillAGoth · 23/04/2025 19:34

A previous poster described kids at a competition being injured, which happens all the time. The presence of a coach doesn't stop this - if anything the kids might feel more pressured to push themselves to do risky things with a coach there. However will children learn to make their own individual assessments of risk if we don't let them try, and play.

That was me.

Tbh, as a parent, I was happy to let children my take risks. And,.of course, I understand all of the benefits of taking risks. And allowing children to assess their own capabilities and risk etc.

But 20 years as a teacher has also taught me that you don't allow anything that the HT hasn't approved and that, if something goes wrong, the parents will blame you personally.

Trallers · 23/04/2025 19:33

AppropriateAdult · 23/04/2025 19:26

If there are kids genuinely doing complex tumbling passes and aerials in a field, as opposed to on a sprung floor, then yes, this seems dangerous. Is it just one or two children, OP? It seems unlikely that there would be a large cohort of kids of primary school age with this level of proficiency.

There are roughly 6-7 very proficient girls, and maybe another 15 who are less advanced but who enjoy doing their cartwheels etc with the gymnastics crowd and might be tempted to try something above their ability. These are all normally split into 2-3 groups and they aren't all the same year. Then there are other girls dotted around just doing regular handstands etc no problem at all.

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StillAGoth · 23/04/2025 19:30

AppropriateAdult · 23/04/2025 19:26

If there are kids genuinely doing complex tumbling passes and aerials in a field, as opposed to on a sprung floor, then yes, this seems dangerous. Is it just one or two children, OP? It seems unlikely that there would be a large cohort of kids of primary school age with this level of proficiency.

No but others see their friends do it and under estimate the difficulty or don't see the danger because Sally does it. And they try but without any of the coaching or necessary supervision.

Lack of proficiency doesn't stop some of them from trying.

ramonaqueenbee · 23/04/2025 19:30

I am so relieved and pleased to see the responses here. I wanted to say this but thought I'd be told off. Honestly, this is so good for these children in every way! Exuberance, confidence, testing things out, owning their space on the grass. I literally spent my childhood summers doing this.

A previous poster described kids at a competition being injured, which happens all the time. The presence of a coach doesn't stop this - if anything the kids might feel more pressured to push themselves to do risky things with a coach there. However will children learn to make their own individual assessments of risk if we don't let them try, and play.

I suppose all I would say is maybe give them a dedicated space, or take turns with the footballers.

Jabberwok · 23/04/2025 19:29

In 20 years time no one will set up their own business. No one will visit anywhere they don't know. They won't get married, move out, have kids....Because they have never experienced taking a risk before.

Has anyone on here ever experienced a child being seriously hurt doing gymnastics on grass?

Wow...just wow...It's just so sad. We roamed all over the place when we were kids. The school took us for a walk every year to the mendips, we were 12 the first time, we walked on ahead of the teachers and finished about 45minutes before them..they trusted us to follow the path. This was a 6 hour walk btw...

Werp · 23/04/2025 19:27

Think people have made up their mind based on the wording of the title OP and aren’t really taking in what you’re describing. Yes it does sound dangerous, especially if they try and teach each other those moves.

AhBiscuits · 23/04/2025 19:27

I don't think my 9 year old has passed a patch of grass without doing some kind of gymnastics on it in the last 5 years. It's a normal part of being a kid. You're being ridiculous.