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to think taking photos of someone in a coffin is the height of disrespect?

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SnoozingFox · 23/04/2025 18:09

Totally understand that for Catholics this is a very sad time and many of them wish to pay their respects by filing past the coffin in St Peter's.

SO many people in footage just shown on the news taking photos on their phones. I mean. WTF?

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OhWhistle · 23/04/2025 21:31

TheLarkAscendingRose · 23/04/2025 21:23

"Shoving" it underground to be eaten by worms isn't much better let's face it.

Worms are lovely. St Francis of Assisi loved worms. Praise creation for its economy of nourishment.

Hastentoadd · 23/04/2025 21:30

Anothercoat · 23/04/2025 18:19

Cultural differences. It’s a Catholic Thang.

I’m a catholic and have never seen anyone do it at a funeral,

AquaPeer · 23/04/2025 21:29

It is a cultural thing and you should be more respectful of other cultures. It’s not just Catholics other cultures do the same.

KrisAkabusi · 23/04/2025 21:29

SnoozingFox · 23/04/2025 18:09

Totally understand that for Catholics this is a very sad time and many of them wish to pay their respects by filing past the coffin in St Peter's.

SO many people in footage just shown on the news taking photos on their phones. I mean. WTF?

Is it different if its a BBC camera filming the body?

TheLarkAscendingRose · 23/04/2025 21:25

Jabberwok · 23/04/2025 19:48

We in the UK have a problem in my view with death..and I speak as someone who works for a funeral director and someone who is going to the funeral of a close family member this week.

Firstly, we do not discuss it, ever, I've tried broaching the subject of what she would like at her funeral with mil who is 94...she refuses to tell us.
We don't have discussions about what we want at the funeral after a person has died, I've lost count of the number of funerals where the family suddenly want to carry the coffin or can't decide who walks behind it or even who is travelling in what car. I know that they are grieving but these days it's 3 weeks or more after the death.secondly

Secondly, the fact that there are delays and funerals often happen weeks after the death. They are meant to be part of the grieving process and these delays often make the while whole situation much worse.

Finally, American tv and film always show a perfect looking, embalmed body (a live actor)...we don't usually embalm in the UK, the toxic chemical, especially in the more usual cremation, are not good. So if you do see your loved one, especially after a couple of weeks they don't look like they did (death removed the spark, the soul if you will of who they were leaving an empty vessel).

're photos, the strangest thing I have experienced is the person filming us removing their grandmother from the bed she died in right up to us closing the ambulance door...I was creeped out

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It's cultural.

TheLarkAscendingRose · 23/04/2025 21:23

TheTigerWhoCameToBrunch · 23/04/2025 19:08

I actually think the height of disrespect for a dead body is to shove it in a furnace and burn it.

For Catholics and the Orthodox Churches (i.e. the true church and not some pale imitation), cremation is a sin as it is the desecration of the body.

"Shoving" it underground to be eaten by worms isn't much better let's face it.

XenoBitch · 23/04/2025 21:20

Jabberwok · 23/04/2025 19:48

We in the UK have a problem in my view with death..and I speak as someone who works for a funeral director and someone who is going to the funeral of a close family member this week.

Firstly, we do not discuss it, ever, I've tried broaching the subject of what she would like at her funeral with mil who is 94...she refuses to tell us.
We don't have discussions about what we want at the funeral after a person has died, I've lost count of the number of funerals where the family suddenly want to carry the coffin or can't decide who walks behind it or even who is travelling in what car. I know that they are grieving but these days it's 3 weeks or more after the death.secondly

Secondly, the fact that there are delays and funerals often happen weeks after the death. They are meant to be part of the grieving process and these delays often make the while whole situation much worse.

Finally, American tv and film always show a perfect looking, embalmed body (a live actor)...we don't usually embalm in the UK, the toxic chemical, especially in the more usual cremation, are not good. So if you do see your loved one, especially after a couple of weeks they don't look like they did (death removed the spark, the soul if you will of who they were leaving an empty vessel).

're photos, the strangest thing I have experienced is the person filming us removing their grandmother from the bed she died in right up to us closing the ambulance door...I was creeped out

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You have posted on here before where you were very judgemental about grieving clients who "lacked the respect" to find trousers to wear after their mum had died.
You post here just smacks of more lack of understanding about how people grieve, and how things can change... even on the day.

Someone filming their gran on their final journey is about them... not you.

Please do grieving families a favour and get a different job.

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 21:18

QueefQueen80s · 23/04/2025 21:16

I do wish this was more normal in England rather than shutting the dead away and having it all taboo and hidden and clinical.

It’s interesting so many people try to paint it as gruesome and wrong, personally I think that of leaving your loved one alone in a fridge in a morgue.
Catholics keep the loved one at home, surrounded by family until they are laid to rest. I think it’s much more respectful.

Tbrh · 23/04/2025 21:17

In that context yes, disrespectful. They should probably not allow phones.

QueefQueen80s · 23/04/2025 21:16

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 18:15

As a catholic we have our dead in the living room, give them a wee kiss and eat sandwiches and drink tea while leaning up against the coffin so I don’t think many catholics would view photos of a coffin as disrespectful.
I have film photos of the coffin on the walk to the cemetery of most older relatives, it’s not a new thing.

I do wish this was more normal in England rather than shutting the dead away and having it all taboo and hidden and clinical.

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 21:14

Istgisforreal · 23/04/2025 20:11

Where do you live? Ireland? I've been to lots of funerals and never seen an open coffin

UK.
Your experience isn’t the only reality.

OhWhistle · 23/04/2025 21:00

Roman Catholicism believes in the resurrection of the body and the life of her world to come.

We also believe in transubstantiation...becoming one in the body of Christ at the Eucharist.

It's an embodied faith. We love stuff.

OhWhistle · 23/04/2025 20:58

Why wouldn't you want to remember a last moment with the Holy Father?

So long as nobody is fighting, it's beautiful.

MalleusMaleficarumm · 23/04/2025 20:54

CustardySergeant · 23/04/2025 20:22

I didn't see the programme (wouldn't want to) but I have heard about that tradition. It sounds gruesome and upsetting, but I suppose it isn't if you've been brought up in that culture.

It wasn’t gruesome or upsetting in the slightest. It was honouring their dead relatives and they made such an effort to make them look well turned out with new clothes etc and bought them gifts of things they loved when they were living. Personally wouldn’t want to do that with my own rellys but I find the meaning behind the ritual very touching.

It was on ‘Dark tourist’ for anyone interested. Actually a very good series worth watching!

XenoBitch · 23/04/2025 20:30

CustardySergeant · 23/04/2025 20:22

I didn't see the programme (wouldn't want to) but I have heard about that tradition. It sounds gruesome and upsetting, but I suppose it isn't if you've been brought up in that culture.

Well, yes. If you are brought up in that culture then it is probably something you celebrate every year.
I do think that we generally fear death and all that comes with it. It gets us all in the end.

BurntBroccoli · 23/04/2025 20:27

I don’t think it’s disrespectful at all especially if they were in a lot of pain and the loved one wants to remember them at peace.

I remember seeing my grandad laid out in the front room when I was about 9 in the 70s. He looked very peaceful.

Limeandbasil90 · 23/04/2025 20:24

It’s a cultural/ religious difference

LillyPJ · 23/04/2025 20:23

@OlderYearsIsBest The reference to 'cultural' just means that different cultures/countries/groups have different ideas. So in some societies, death is talked about more, viewing a dead body might be common, they could have different rituals - like burning a body, or burying a body, or embalming a body etc. in another society, it could be that death is never referred to. We just get used to what we're subjected to, so it seems normal to us. (Just ignore this if you weren't really asking what 'cultural' meant! I just took you literally.)

Fabulousagain · 23/04/2025 20:22

This is done in our family.
Its not a family photo to pop on show its personal and its not a all get in the shot thing.
Its not shameful its a sign of respect for the dead.
We are taught not to fear the dead in our family and we dont.

CustardySergeant · 23/04/2025 20:22

MalleusMaleficarumm · 23/04/2025 19:38

Yeah there was a programme on Netflix where somewhere in Asia they embalm their relatives then once a year, bring them out and clean them, dress them up nice and give them gifts. They spend time with them before they bury them again as well.

I didn't see the programme (wouldn't want to) but I have heard about that tradition. It sounds gruesome and upsetting, but I suppose it isn't if you've been brought up in that culture.

Epli · 23/04/2025 20:19

I am from a catholic country and personally I think it is creepy, but some of my family member did take photos of their grandparents just after their death (no open coffin funerals so they could not take them then). It weirds me out but a lot of people consider it normal.

Mmhmmn · 23/04/2025 20:14

Agree. I find it really really distasteful. Why would you want that on your camera roll? So strange. Is it mindless snapping or something else?

edit: I’m thinking here of people taking photos of Pope Francis, not the individual and very sad examples some ppl have shared above about family members. 🕊️ 💟

Hallywally · 23/04/2025 20:13

To me corpses have never held any appeal- it’s not the person. Their soul has gone. It’s just an empty vessel. Seen both my parents die & seeing their dead bodies was a bizarre and unsettling experience. I would never want an open coffin & I’ve never been to see people at funeral homes etc when they’ve died. I prefer to remember them when they were alive and themselves- with their personality and their soul. Everyone is different but to me a corpse is just that.

Istgisforreal · 23/04/2025 20:11

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 19:51

we don't usually embalm in the UK, the toxic chemical

Every funeral I’ve ever been to except one has been an open coffin, of course bodies are embalmed in the UK!

Where do you live? Ireland? I've been to lots of funerals and never seen an open coffin

Goldenboysmum · 23/04/2025 19:58

People take photos for different reasons.

I took a photo of my dad in his coffin,
because he looked better then that he had in the last 6 weeks of his life.

I also have a few photos of my mum,
not because we wanted them but
because she looked horrendous and
we have made a complaint to the
funeral home. So the photos are
"evidence" of what we saw. She died
peacefully and naturally so should
have looked reasonably good, instead what we saw was awful!

I wasn't allowed to see my son
because of his injuries (suicide) but I wish I had a photo, but thats because he died in another country and I still
get the "what if it wasn't him
moments"

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