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to think taking photos of someone in a coffin is the height of disrespect?

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SnoozingFox · 23/04/2025 18:09

Totally understand that for Catholics this is a very sad time and many of them wish to pay their respects by filing past the coffin in St Peter's.

SO many people in footage just shown on the news taking photos on their phones. I mean. WTF?

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Anothercoat · 24/04/2025 12:28

The crucifix (Christ nailed on the cross rather than a cross by itself) is a Catholic image literally of the dead Christ, which by my reckoning is 2025 years old, give or take.

Dead Catholic imagery is not new.

See also Capuchin Cemetary and Catholic relics. Bits of dead everywhere.

KrisAkabusi · 24/04/2025 12:18

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/04/2025 11:13

In what way is it “cultural” camera phones are a relatively recent thing?

There are photos of dead criminals and victims in some police museums and such. They are ghoulish, as is taking photographs of this man in his coffin. Height of disrespect. Amazed it’s allowed.

Actual cameras have been around for nearly 200 years though. YOu can't pretend this is a new thing.

grooveraidiator · 24/04/2025 12:15

i think it completely depends - Vatican releasing an official photo seems very different from members of the public strolling up with their own phones to take a selfie of an open coffin. i personally think the latter is poor form but people have fewer boundaries now!

surreygirlzz · 24/04/2025 12:03

The insane modern world
Pathetic people

DrPrunesqualer · 24/04/2025 11:36

TrinityClover · 24/04/2025 11:23

It’s really bizarre but yes a cultural thing. In the course of my work I went in to the house of an Irish family. They had a framed photograph in pride of place n their mantelpiece of their dead grandma in her coffin? I really couldn’t understand why!

Gosh that does sound grim.
Ive heard of photos taken of family members with the dead body ( not a catholic thing) in the early days of photography when they’d prop the body up beside them which is also grim but a sign of the times I suppose.

Im thinking the family you visited did this because they wanted to and not because of their religion. Perhaps it’s just a family tradition.

TrinityClover · 24/04/2025 11:23

It’s really bizarre but yes a cultural thing. In the course of my work I went in to the house of an Irish family. They had a framed photograph in pride of place n their mantelpiece of their dead grandma in her coffin? I really couldn’t understand why!

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/04/2025 11:13

In what way is it “cultural” camera phones are a relatively recent thing?

There are photos of dead criminals and victims in some police museums and such. They are ghoulish, as is taking photographs of this man in his coffin. Height of disrespect. Amazed it’s allowed.

Katiesaidthat · 24/04/2025 11:12

SnoozingFox · 23/04/2025 18:21

I get that it's a "cultural thing" to have open coffins and to have a wake or sit vigil with the body. That is respectful.

Jostling for the perfect photo of the dead body lying in a coffin is just ... not.

I´m catholic and I agree with you.

DrPrunesqualer · 24/04/2025 11:11

Lostsadandconfused · 24/04/2025 06:19

It’s the pope. I’m sure he would expect all good Catholics to take a photo, frame it and display it proudly.

No I’m afraid not.
Its not actually allowed to take a photo of the Pope in this situation. People are though and I suppose no one feels they can stop them in their grief.

Dotjones · 24/04/2025 11:10

I don't think it's the "height of disrespect" - funeral bombings are probably worse.

It's a cultural thing anyway (photographs, not bombings). I find open-cask coffins distasteful, others don't.

DrPrunesqualer · 24/04/2025 11:05

TheTigerWhoCameToBrunch · 24/04/2025 00:09

There’s a lot about the changes following the Second Vatican Council I don’t agree with, cremation being one item!

I wouldn’t want to be cremated. None of my family have been. I’ll be going in the ground like the rest of them. I like the idea of knowing they are there when I visit the graves.
I accept peoples choice though and I think it’s good the church is trying to give way on some things.

DrPrunesqualer · 24/04/2025 11:00

HauntedBungalow · 23/04/2025 23:36

Catholics (I was raised one) are really into death and dead bodies etc. it's just what they do. I remember going to wakes in people's houses as a wee girl and the body was always there (along with the whisky and maudlin songs). It's kind of a death cult really - the key holy image is dead Jesus on the cross, all blood, nails, thorns and the spear. The stations of the cross (pictures around the church that you visit in order and pray at) are violent and bloody, lots of Catholics have a picture in their home of Jesus opening up his chest and showing guests his sacred heart. Taking pictures of a fully clothed, clean guy with no obvious marks of violence on him in a nice pretty lined coffin is fairly mild in comparison.

It’s interesting how others see these images
Ive never regarded the image of the Sacred heart as bloody or ‘opening up his chest to reveal his heart’….In reality it represents the image of Gods Love.

The stations of the cross are about the journey to crucifixion, resurrection and the saving of souls. So again I’ve always seen those as his path to salvation.

It’s interesting how they are viewed by others though

to think taking photos of someone in a coffin is the height of disrespect?
MalleusMaleficarumm · 24/04/2025 10:48

I see the daily fail have picked up this thread 🙄 getting your leads from us are you, you lazy bastards

Istgisforreal · 24/04/2025 09:52

TheTigerWhoCameToBrunch · 24/04/2025 00:20

Personally I don’t see organ donation as a desecration of the body.
I just don’t like cremation because it’s so sudden and violent and a living person is reduced to a handful of ash within hours. I want a proper grave to visit.
Funeral pyres? Barbaric and undignified. But then I’m someone who doesn’t believe all cultures are equal.

I can't believe you actually typed that I really can't.....

OhWhistle · 24/04/2025 09:42

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2025 06:56

Oh, so it’s a sin because come the day of judgement there will be no body to resurrect? I think what with God being, you know, omnipotent, that wouldn’t be too much of a problem for Him.

You're the one saying sin...

I'm saying love of bodiliness...

Sofiewoo · 24/04/2025 08:24

DrPrunesqualer · 23/04/2025 22:50

OK
Its extremely rare everywhere for Catholics
Its not not allowed, it’s just extremely rare

Extremely rare doesn’t mean never
Its just not the norm anymore.

It’s literally not though. Several people have told you it’s the norm in their area of the UK. It might not be the norm for you but that doesn’t mean it’s “extremely rare” in the UK as a whole.

LlynTegid · 24/04/2025 07:02

Your own family member perhaps, not otherwise.

Sadly some of the mourners there will be those for whom it is grief tourism or some form of performative grieving.

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2025 06:56

OhWhistle · 23/04/2025 21:00

Roman Catholicism believes in the resurrection of the body and the life of her world to come.

We also believe in transubstantiation...becoming one in the body of Christ at the Eucharist.

It's an embodied faith. We love stuff.

Oh, so it’s a sin because come the day of judgement there will be no body to resurrect? I think what with God being, you know, omnipotent, that wouldn’t be too much of a problem for Him.

CasperGutman · 24/04/2025 06:42

Many, many Catholic churches in Italy display the 'miraculously preserved' relics of saints in glass cases in their altars. It's reasonably common for there to be lights that come on if you put a coin in a slot. There are certainly cultural differences regarding the respectful treatment of corpses!

Lostsadandconfused · 24/04/2025 06:19

It’s the pope. I’m sure he would expect all good Catholics to take a photo, frame it and display it proudly.

BoldBlueZebra · 24/04/2025 06:16

TheTigerWhoCameToBrunch · 24/04/2025 00:20

Personally I don’t see organ donation as a desecration of the body.
I just don’t like cremation because it’s so sudden and violent and a living person is reduced to a handful of ash within hours. I want a proper grave to visit.
Funeral pyres? Barbaric and undignified. But then I’m someone who doesn’t believe all cultures are equal.

I’m sorry - you don’t believe all cultures are equal? Please would you explain this statement ?

BoldBlueZebra · 24/04/2025 06:15

Oh and let’s not forget the death mask - making a plaster cast of some ones face after death - the world is a fascinating place and no where is the difference between cultures more apparent than in the ways we mark deaths

BoldBlueZebra · 24/04/2025 06:11

Not so long ago we propped corpses up for a family photo before they were interred - I would say horses for courses

Trytobegood22 · 24/04/2025 01:37

our approach to death is massively different to other cultures. We just like to judge because we don’t deal with it in the same
way. There are some cultures who keep their loved ones in a room for so many days and relatives pop in and have a chat. We really do make it taboo and if it doesn’t fit with our expectations then it’s morbid or disrespectful. Death can be a celebration! I appreciate that there are those who do it for the wrong reasons but this isn’t a new thing and it’s known that this is a thing, I’d say we need to stop describing things that don’t conform to our expectations in such a way. I’m sure that other cultures judge us for things too!

caringcarer · 24/04/2025 01:04

Notashamed13 · 23/04/2025 19:02

I also have my stillborn on prominent display in my bedroom......is that bad taste?

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