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Discussion about Jesus’s death which now encompasses creationism and the second coming. Thread 2

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ZoggyStirdust · 23/04/2025 16:00

Continues from here if anyone wants to

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5318577-to-not-understand-why-christians-think-jesus-died-for-our-sins?page=40&reply=143772264

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ZoggyStirdust · 23/04/2025 16:24

Every single one of those 6 reasons you posted is wrong. Either factually wrong, or based on bad maths, or just made up. None of them are correct.

as a pp says, we can literally see evolution taking place in bacteria and viruses. And it’s currently happening for the vast majority of species still, just very slowly.

one of your 6 points states that a mutation can only ever be destructive and negative, never positive. This is factually and demonstrably untrue.

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SorcererGaheris · 23/04/2025 16:22

ZoggyStirdust · 23/04/2025 16:03

I’m still fascinated to know how anyone in the modern era can be a creationist.

the links posted by a pp were fascinating, but contained a myriad of errors, untruths, and misinformation/misunderstandings.

@ZoggyStirdust

I'm as theist as they come (pagan polytheist who believes in the existence of all deities) and I am 100% on board with evolution - at this stage, it's just a basic fact.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 23/04/2025 16:18

CloseEncountersOfTheTurdKind · 23/04/2025 16:15

Show me proof of an intermediate stage of evolution. There are fossils and current evidence of thousands of individual species, but no evidence of any creature going through evolution.
Again, what specific things in the articles do you think are untrue and unevidenced?

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Let's take the second sentence of the second paragraph in the link in the previous thread: "If it were a real process, evolution should still be occurring"

And then lets see how that stands up agains verifiable evolution that has taken place in our lifetime, which includes the emergence of antibiotic-resistant bacteria and pesticide-resistant insects.

How does one, credibly, sustain the view that evolution is not real?

CloseEncountersOfTheTurdKind · 23/04/2025 16:15

ZoggyStirdust · 23/04/2025 16:11

There are literally dozens in every point made. Hang on and I’ll have a look but they weren’t evidence of any description they were just nonsense.

as for proof of evolution, it’s everywhere. There are literally thousands of articles and papers. I could google and link to the first dozen of you really need me to

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Show me proof of an intermediate stage of evolution. There are fossils and current evidence of thousands of individual species, but no evidence of any creature going through evolution.
Again, what specific things in the articles do you think are untrue and unevidenced?

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ZoggyStirdust · 23/04/2025 16:11

CloseEncountersOfTheTurdKind · 23/04/2025 16:06

Can you point out what the errors and untruths in the links were please? I have provided evidence for my beliefs but you have not yet been able to provide any for yours.

There are literally dozens in every point made. Hang on and I’ll have a look but they weren’t evidence of any description they were just nonsense.

as for proof of evolution, it’s everywhere. There are literally thousands of articles and papers. I could google and link to the first dozen of you really need me to

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CloseEncountersOfTheTurdKind · 23/04/2025 16:06

Can you point out what the errors and untruths in the links were please? I have provided evidence for my beliefs but you have not yet been able to provide any for yours.

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ZoggyStirdust · 23/04/2025 16:03

I’m still fascinated to know how anyone in the modern era can be a creationist.

the links posted by a pp were fascinating, but contained a myriad of errors, untruths, and misinformation/misunderstandings.

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