Theme park queue jumping for DLP

"I bring my own lunch and can talk as much or as little as you like."

This can't be real!

Do you think it’s entrepreneurial for disabled people to lend out their blue badges for other people to use, because this is tantamount to the same thing. It brings disabled people into disrepute and it inevitably ends up with eligibility being tightened so much simply to stop this kind of behaviour, that it prevents genuinely disabled people for benefitting. It’s not entrepreneurialism, it’s fraud.

Disabled people don’t even have priority in queues for the accessible toilets any more, so being given any sort of priority for anything else ain’t gonna happen. And some posts here make it very clear that they don’t think queue jumping passes at theme parks should exist either.

This is absolutely bizarre lmao

But then again i also find it very strange that in the UK pregnant women, disabled people or people with babies don’t have priority in queues (ie supermarket, post office) so maybe it’s just a cultural difference.

This is another reason why we don't use it for our autistic DC. I don't want him to look back and have built a bigger view of himself as "different". Instead he will have the memories of when he struggled, but also the memories of when he coped with situations which he found hard and that it was worth doing for the outcomes.
I'd imagine the children in that case will just look back at it as "we couldn't do anything that other children could" as they never even got the opportunity to try. And I'd imagine when they're older it will be harder for them to then start managing those situations too.

It will also build an expectation of special treatment and adjustments that realistically just don't exist for the vast majority of adults.

Yeah that's gross. Imagine being that kid and watching that back as an adult!

It's not entrepreneurial. It's manipulating a system designed for the most vulnerable. It ultimately will lead to longer queues for actual disabled people and further restrictions on eligibility.

This is like people subletting council housing as Air Bnbs or selling on food from food banks.

A friend told me that at DisneyLand Shanghai there are disabled people that wait outside the entrance offering these very services!!!

It's obviously very ethically questionable but at the same time I commend the chap on his entrepreneurialism. It can't be easy being disabled and holding a job (as half the views on this thread show).

At Legoland Florida you just walk up to Guest Services and tell them your child has a disabilty, and they give you a paper pass. No evidence needed and no detailed explanations. The child and one carer only (not the whole family) can go to the ride exit and get on immediately/short queue, but the paper is marked with a virtual queue time for the child to go on again with the whole family.

That "Queue Jump With Mick" site looks so much like a parody, surely it can't be real? Especially the name Mick, it's screaming "taking the Mick" at me. It looks like a Viz-style parody.

I have disabled dcs and we've used our UK Access cards to get the disability queue passes with no problem. We queue at the exit and can usually get on immediately, or with a much shorter queue.

At Florida DW they don't ask for any documentation but you have to book a video chat and explain how your dc's disabilities affect their ability to queue - no problems getting it there either, although it did cause me more anxiety as I didn't know for sure whether we'd get it until we were there.

The UK Merlin parks are a pain these days as you need to book a day i advance that you will use a disability pass, and it's often booked up weeks ahead.

Our dcs aren't visibly disabled so I'm sure some people might have thought they were taking advantage. You can't ever know just by looking at someone.

Personally I wouldn't be keen on using this service as I'd hate to have a stranger coming around with us and going on the rides (and I think pp are right that he'd have to come on all rides with you and sit in the same ride car/boat etc, and it would be a max 4 people including the disabled person). It would just be easier to pay for the fast track sevice (though I don't know how the costs compare, as I've never needed to look into it).

You can have ASD, qualify for DLA and not have a particular problem queuing. As you know, some people with ASD have other struggles. There is a family I follow on YouTube like this and the mum applies for every DAS and carer's pass that she can.

She uploads other videos at places that don't have a DAS and her kids can queue for attractions and to meet characters with very few problems.

Her videos show her using her DAS to fast track queues and she even shares 'hacks' about how to optimise DAS so you can go on the maximum number of rides possible. She goes on at least double the number of rides that a regular guests could go on due to the queues.

@BreakingPoint555 At DLP it's evidence-based but at WDW it's based on an interview, and I don't know about Universal in Florida, Legoland etc.

How do you know though? My son doesn't look like he needs it until he does, but has a bladder condition, ADHD and ASD. I'm curious to know how people who don't need these passes get them. I thought you had to show evidence such as PIP or DLA.

Yes, I would.

It’s awful and immoral as many have stated. Just buy fast passes.
I went to WDW fairly recently and had a DAS pass for my DC. It helped immensely and meant we were able to enjoy the park. Sadly now their disability is so great they wouldn’t be able to go at all now even with a disability pass.
In contrast, the system at Universal was awful as they give away so many fast passes that the queue for disabled people is very long, sometimes longer than the normal queue. This led to many panic attacks while queuing, having to abandon the queue and just not trying to access some rides. The more people who abuse the system, the more disabled people just miss out, it’s very selfish and immoral.

No more from the OP I see. Maybe she is busy with Mick, and her DP at DLP.🤔

I can't type what I want to because it would probably be deleted. So I will just ask you this. Why are you with someone totally selfish who wants to make disabled people struggle?

OP actually think about what you plan to do here.

You want to hire a disabled person so you can go in the disabled queues, making actual disabled people wait longer. Say that back to yourself, you want to jump in front of actual disabled people, who need disabled access.

This makes disabled access completely moot if able bodied people can just buy chaperones to abuse the system. This is as bad as, if not worse than "borrowing" a blue badge so you can park in disabled bays. How could you even consider this. Think of the people who need this OP, disabled access isn't some privilege, there's kids with Cancer, autism, wheelchair users who struggle to access these fun activities because they can't mentally or physically manage and you would have them wait behind you in a queue.

What if you don't get on with Mick and you're stuck with him?

This is really disingenuous as there are known issues with the disability access services being manipulated and abused. The sheer volume of people trying to use the system in Disneyworld meant they had to tighten the rules as it was becoming unmanageable.

Ultimately these services are meant to provide disabled people with equal access to the rides but they actually often provide much superior access. This is why there is an incentive for people to lie, exaggerate and cheat to get access to these passes that can effectively be used as a fast pass to gain access to far more rides than someone without a pass can go on. This not only means that non disabled people have to wait excessively long in queues but it extends the disability access queues making them unusable for some disabled people.

It is also really important to remember that just because someone isn't disabled, it doesn't mean that they don't struggle to queue. Many people go to theme parks with young children, people with mobility issues and older relatives. It just isn't realistic to expect these people to queue 90 plus minutes because the wait has been lengthened by disabled guests being able to jump the queue and ride their favourite attraction over and over again.

Totally wrong I had a massive argument with my sister. Wanted to use one of my kids so she didn't have to queue for a stand up roller coaster. My kids love roller coasters so do . But they also have severe autism and are non verbal. Even I knew I would shit myself on it. So wouldn't put my kids through it so she a full grown ass adult with no disabilities didn't have to queue.

We don't use queue jump even though DS would qualify for it, a lot of the children I see definitely don't look like they actually need it.

One of my children probably doesn't 'look' like he needs it when you see him in the fast moving DAS lane at WDW, because he's sufficiently regulated. But believe me, you wouldn't want to be next to him in a long stationary line and if you were you'd be in no doubt that this is a child who needs accommodations for his disability. We've tried without the pass, he didn't cope and it was hell for us (probably everyone in the vicinity) until we had to admit defeat and leave. The DAS pass means he can actually enjoy the experience, although we still have to take frequent breaks, pick less busy times/days, utilise sensory rooms/quiet areas etc. It's disheartening knowing people are looking at DS with suspicion and thinking "hmmm, he doesn't look that disabled" because the accommodation he's entitled to is doing it's job.

Needing a another person with you when you're ab adult isn't a "privilege". I'm quite often finding that certain things aren't accessible. So that often means paying the same price (unless I'm lucky and can get a concession plus free carer) and not being able to access everything

How is that fair?

Sorry I didn't read the thread properly and assume you were going with a disabled relative. That type of service is really immorale. I'd rather queue than attend a theme park with a complete stranger.

As I previously said Disneyland Paris isn't that bad. You asbolutely can avoid significant queueing if you're smart, use the ride wait times app, plan around that, and go on the popular rides during peak meal, and parade times. The first hour of the park is also essential for the ridiculous rides like Crush's coaster than can have queue times of up to 3 hours.

Tbf I enjoyed the many theatre shows that they had on, the parades, and generally walking around far more than the few minutes of thrills the rides offer.

The majority of rides are the same as any other themepark rides with exception of a few. Spiderman WEB adventure was unlike anything I've ever been on and the Buzz lightyear ride was extremely enjoyable. Most other are a variation of riding around a track or spinning in circles a few times.