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Theme park queue jumping for DLP

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RichSherl · 23/04/2025 14:20

Probably the wrong place to ask this but...

My DP wants us to employ a theme park queue jumper for when we go to Disneyland Paris in October.

I didn't even know these things existed?!?!?! 🤐

I've not been to DLP for a number of years but apparently it's a thing that people go with their disabled parents just so they can skip queues for rides and to see characters etc?

Can anyone corroborate this? It seems mad to me and beyond unethical.

Anyway, AIBU or should we really use someone like this to help us skip queues?

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Clearingaspace · 25/04/2025 12:14

If you want to go on holiday with mick, go ahead! overwhelmingly most people have said they wouldn’t do it because a) it holds up the queue for those who legitimately need it or have paid the theme park directly b) it’s probably going to be awkward and c) it’s easier and probably cheaper to plan your trip with tips already mentioned and occasional use of ride fast passes

RichSherl · 25/04/2025 11:45

Elphamouche · 25/04/2025 10:52

Your attitude is actually just as bad.

Why? It's fair to say that disabled people get numerous "soft" benefits like this and it's a fact that plenty of perfectly-abled people exploit that to their own benefit.

To cringe, hide under a rock and just criticise others for daring to point this out is just daft.

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Elphamouche · 25/04/2025 10:52

RichSherl · 25/04/2025 09:18

Ok ladies, thank you for all your thoughts and comments. It's really appreciated as I was pretty sure the whole deal seemed a bit mad/weird! Maybe Mick does a good trade? Who knows.

I guess it is a bit unethical to employ Mick's services but is it any different to families that bring Granny to get the disabled parking bay, free ULEZ, not pay bridge/motorway tolls etc?

The ethics on all this seem a bit blurred given that apparently 20% of the country now claim to be disabled and a number of perfectly able people I know seem to be claiming PIP and getting a car on motability (yes, I know many disabilities are 'invisible').

Anyway, I'll let my DP your thoughts.

Your attitude is actually just as bad.

okydokethen · 25/04/2025 10:09

No I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t want to hang out with a stranger or be reliant on them in terms of planning the day. I would never let my DC think this is what being disabled is about, they have a severely disabled family friend and have never ‘used’ him like this.

I did however spend an obscene amount on x3 fast passes for one day at Disney for me and DC who were 9 and 11 at the time to do all of the rides. It was amazing, everything done and the other days were much more leisurely.

anothermnuser123 · 25/04/2025 09:31

RichSherl · 25/04/2025 09:09

Or maybe I've got better things to do that spend all day reading replies?!

But you have plenty of time to be a goady twat! This is clearly another benefits bash given your latest response. Stop being lazy and queue like everyone else!

TheCrowFliesWest · 25/04/2025 09:22

HedgehogB · 23/04/2025 14:29

It’s a terrible thing to do. My sister took my severely disabled non verbal autistic niece to DLP and there were so many queue jumpers in the disabled queue that they legitimately joined , that a little boy who was genuinely very disabled and a few places behind her , missed his ride entirely . His mum had been trying to get him to understand the wait in the, albeit, shorter disabled queue . He was devastated and had a meltdown when they reached the front and the ride broke down. Yay for all the selfish gits who took his treat.

How do you know those in the queue weren’t there legitimately? Hidden disability?

RichSherl · 25/04/2025 09:19

Clearingaspace · 25/04/2025 09:16

Well you had time for that reply, you don’t need to reply to every message, but it’s polite to give some kind of general update/reply when lots of people have taken the time to reply to your original question.

Is it considered rude to look away for 24 hours now?!

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RichSherl · 25/04/2025 09:18

Ok ladies, thank you for all your thoughts and comments. It's really appreciated as I was pretty sure the whole deal seemed a bit mad/weird! Maybe Mick does a good trade? Who knows.

I guess it is a bit unethical to employ Mick's services but is it any different to families that bring Granny to get the disabled parking bay, free ULEZ, not pay bridge/motorway tolls etc?

The ethics on all this seem a bit blurred given that apparently 20% of the country now claim to be disabled and a number of perfectly able people I know seem to be claiming PIP and getting a car on motability (yes, I know many disabilities are 'invisible').

Anyway, I'll let my DP your thoughts.

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Clearingaspace · 25/04/2025 09:16

Well you had time for that reply, you don’t need to reply to every message, but it’s polite to give some kind of general update/reply when lots of people have taken the time to reply to your original question.

RichSherl · 25/04/2025 09:09

anothermnuser123 · 24/04/2025 19:35

They were never going to, its quite clearly a goady post. Why these are fine to stand I dont know but it was clear from the outset this was another post and run and watch people froth

Or maybe I've got better things to do that spend all day reading replies?!

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ElfDragon · 24/04/2025 23:02

mrsconradfisher · 24/04/2025 21:19

He doesn’t get DLA or anything which I can use as proof. I only have his diagnosis letter and from what I have seen online you need more than that.
He’s 14 and very high functioning, to everyone else it would look like he shouldn’t be entitled to a DAS. But he gets incredible anxious, queuing is really hard for him and us. We did Universal which he was younger (before his diagnosis) and stayed in a Universal hotel which included a fast pass.
We are literally going to DLP for a day (it’s a stop en route to somewhere else) so I thought we could just do a day and pay for the premier pass.
I will definitely look into the disabled ID card though thank you.

Look at applying for a Nimbus Access card. My youngest has one, and doesn’t get DLA. If you can’t supply enough evidence, they have a firm they can send out for GP to fill in. An access card would then entitle you to a priority pass for DLP (and is also widely accepted elsewhere as proof of needing accommodations)

Talkingfrog · 24/04/2025 22:35

mrsconradfisher · 24/04/2025 21:19

He doesn’t get DLA or anything which I can use as proof. I only have his diagnosis letter and from what I have seen online you need more than that.
He’s 14 and very high functioning, to everyone else it would look like he shouldn’t be entitled to a DAS. But he gets incredible anxious, queuing is really hard for him and us. We did Universal which he was younger (before his diagnosis) and stayed in a Universal hotel which included a fast pass.
We are literally going to DLP for a day (it’s a stop en route to somewhere else) so I thought we could just do a day and pay for the premier pass.
I will definitely look into the disabled ID card though thank you.

DAS offered in the American parks uses a different criteria to DLP.

They changed the system in Paris in Dec 2021 and became stricter. They no longer gives passes for temporary conditions - eg a broken leg and require proof of disability/ long term medical condition.
There are 2 passes. Priority for those with proof of disability. It isn't based on what the disability is, but how the person needs assistance.

Easy access pass is for those that have certain conditions- there is a list it applies to.
More info can be found on the dlp website - scroll down, select help, and guests eith disabilities.
You can apply for the priority access card up to a month in advance. You then take the reference
they give you and the persons passport when youcollect it. Click to apply, select country and it shows what they accept, but I have coped the list below. 7 or 8 are worth looking into, and can be used in the uk too.

We accept the following valid documents from this country:

  1. Disability Living Allowance
  2. Attendance Allowance Award
  3. Personal independance payment
  4. Armed Force Compensation Scheme
  5. Certificate of Vision Impairment
  6. U.K. Disabled I.D
  7. National Disability Card
  8. Access Card
  9. Parking Card for Disabled People
  10. Registration Card BD8
  11. Adult Disability payment
  12. Disabled Student's Allowance
  13. Scottish Child Disability Payment

Make sure you purchase tickets in advance. If you have one if the documents listed above, as well as the priority pass you can get reduced price tickets for the disabled person plus 1. There is a separate ticket booking area on the website. You then show proof of disability to collect the tickets before you go in, and can collect the priority pass at the same time.

miniaturepixieonacid · 24/04/2025 22:32

Obviously your husband is being selfish and unreasonable. But I don't know that I'd judge Mick (if he is real) too harshly, depending on his circumstances. Many disabled people are lonely and poor. He could well be a man without m/any friends and without much money who loves theme parks. By doing what he's doing, he can a) afford to have enjoyable days out, b) have a bit of company while doing so and c) make some money to supplement what could be a pretty meagre income. Is he being selfish? Yes, definitely. But all of us are selfish to some degree or another and I couldn't find it in me to be too hard on someone just making something positive out of a pretty shitty life situation.

If on the other hand, he's a rich, sociable fraudster then I would judge him right along with your husband!

Talkingfrog · 24/04/2025 21:42

HedgehogB · 23/04/2025 14:29

It’s a terrible thing to do. My sister took my severely disabled non verbal autistic niece to DLP and there were so many queue jumpers in the disabled queue that they legitimately joined , that a little boy who was genuinely very disabled and a few places behind her , missed his ride entirely . His mum had been trying to get him to understand the wait in the, albeit, shorter disabled queue . He was devastated and had a meltdown when they reached the front and the ride broke down. Yay for all the selfish gits who took his treat.

Depending on when they went, the "queue jumpers" may have been in the correct queue. They also didn't "steal his treat". They joined the queue before him, and were not responsible for the ride breaking down.

It varies per ride, but for some the disabled entrance only used by those with the most mobility needs.

Those that have good mobility , but need assurance for other reasons, often use the same queue as those paying for premier access.

If the queue you were referring to was the oremier access, the "queue jumpers" paid to be there. That us how dlp have chosen to operate the assistance they provide. It effectively means for some, that they get a priority access pass without having to pay for one.

You also have no reason to know if those people had an invisible need.

They could have had conditions such as chrons, diabetes, arthritis, fibromyalgia, dyspraxia, been registered blind or deaf, or any number of other conditions you may not be able to see.

The passes aren't only to reduce wait times. The pass means the cast member operating the ride knows who is likely to need assistance if there is a breakdown. Someone blind would need to be guided differently. Someone who is deaf wouldn't hear any spoken instruction, and a different means of communication would be needed to explain the evacuation process etc.

mrsconradfisher · 24/04/2025 21:19

Talkingfrog · 24/04/2025 20:54

Have you looked into whether he qualifies for either a disabled ID card or access pass issued in the uk. My understanding is that they are based on proof of need. Both if thrm can be used as proof of disability fir the priority pass at dlp.

You may have already looked fully into the premier access pass, but it is per person per day. It only gives 1 go on each of the rides it covers, there about 14. Price is also more at peak times. There is also the option to buy per person per ride on the day, which can work out better for some, especially if they don't want to do all the rides it covers.

He doesn’t get DLA or anything which I can use as proof. I only have his diagnosis letter and from what I have seen online you need more than that.
He’s 14 and very high functioning, to everyone else it would look like he shouldn’t be entitled to a DAS. But he gets incredible anxious, queuing is really hard for him and us. We did Universal which he was younger (before his diagnosis) and stayed in a Universal hotel which included a fast pass.
We are literally going to DLP for a day (it’s a stop en route to somewhere else) so I thought we could just do a day and pay for the premier pass.
I will definitely look into the disabled ID card though thank you.

Kilroyonly · 24/04/2025 21:00

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 24/04/2025 20:48

@Kilroyonly there’s a difference between something not being enjoyable or even annoying or someone legitimately struggling and having an option in place to make attendance a little bit easier for them, though.

I understand that but younger kids struggle to queue & if a family pays a lot of money to get into these places just as general public then unless they want to get through quickly they have to pay an extortionate amount on fast passes. I just think if you want to benefit from being able to bypass the huge queue then you need to pay for it that’s all. I’m honestly not surprised that anyone who can bypass the queueing does so by whatever means.

Talkingfrog · 24/04/2025 20:54

mrsconradfisher · 23/04/2025 16:35

By the time you’ve paid the £100 plus his park tickets etc, you might as well just buy a days fast pass. My own DS has ASD and cannot cope with queuing. He doesn’t qualify for the pass so we are buying a days fast pass for the one day we are going in the summer.

Have you looked into whether he qualifies for either a disabled ID card or access pass issued in the uk. My understanding is that they are based on proof of need. Both if thrm can be used as proof of disability fir the priority pass at dlp.

You may have already looked fully into the premier access pass, but it is per person per day. It only gives 1 go on each of the rides it covers, there about 14. Price is also more at peak times. There is also the option to buy per person per ride on the day, which can work out better for some, especially if they don't want to do all the rides it covers.

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 24/04/2025 20:48

@Kilroyonly there’s a difference between something not being enjoyable or even annoying or someone legitimately struggling and having an option in place to make attendance a little bit easier for them, though.

Kilroyonly · 24/04/2025 20:28

Rosscameasdoody · 24/04/2025 20:02

Because disabled people are just as entitled to enjoy their lives as able bodied people. And any decent society has a duty to ensure that the barriers to their inclusion are smoothed as much as possible.

Of course, entitlement to use the park is open to everyone but queueing isn’t enjoyable for able bodied people either & they pay to get entry too. Inclusion shouldn’t be at the expense of others who are equally important as paying customers.

Kilroyonly · 24/04/2025 20:23

Rosscameasdoody · 24/04/2025 20:13

What do you mean I have no idea really ? Was a disability outreach worker for over twenty years and am disabled from birth myself. Full time wheelchair user. Daily life activities for disabled people are allowed to be pleasurable. Theme parks are a choice to attend, I agree, but equality of choice facilitated by reasonable adjustment applies just as much to leisure activities as it does to other areas. The Equality Act states that reasonable adjustment applies to all areas of society to allow disabled people to participate as fully as possible. You really should educate yourself before making such ableist and discriminatory comments.

Well that was a rant! I meant you have no idea what I am in favour of or against. I really don’t care about your job/background/lifestyle as I’m sure you don’t mine. Lets just agree to disagree

Rosscameasdoody · 24/04/2025 20:13

Kilroyonly · 24/04/2025 14:59

Would you? You have no idea really. We’re not discussing disabled people’s daily life activities. I have a different opinion regarding leisure activities that’s all. I absolutely support making concessions for people who are unable to carry out day to day activities as able bodied people are; of course that would be unreasonable to suggest otherwise however when a leisure activity such as a theme park (which is a choice to attend) charge extortionate prices for entry for able bodied people I don’t think it’s too much of a leap to ask that if you want to enjoy that facility at a premium then you pay for it.

What do you mean I have no idea really ? Was a disability outreach worker for over twenty years and am disabled from birth myself. Full time wheelchair user. Daily life activities for disabled people are allowed to be pleasurable. Theme parks are a choice to attend, I agree, but equality of choice facilitated by reasonable adjustment applies just as much to leisure activities as it does to other areas. The Equality Act states that reasonable adjustment applies to all areas of society to allow disabled people to participate as fully as possible. You really should educate yourself before making such ableist and discriminatory comments.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/04/2025 20:07

Kilroyonly · 24/04/2025 14:59

Would you? You have no idea really. We’re not discussing disabled people’s daily life activities. I have a different opinion regarding leisure activities that’s all. I absolutely support making concessions for people who are unable to carry out day to day activities as able bodied people are; of course that would be unreasonable to suggest otherwise however when a leisure activity such as a theme park (which is a choice to attend) charge extortionate prices for entry for able bodied people I don’t think it’s too much of a leap to ask that if you want to enjoy that facility at a premium then you pay for it.

So basically you don’t think disabled people should be afforded the opportunity to enjoy facilities open to able bodied people. No one is suggesting that disabled people pay less for these facilities than others, just that they are afforded some concession in queuing if it causes a problem which is disability related. The fact that able bodied people abuse these concessions isn’t the fault of disabled people but sure as shit, it’s disabled people who pay the price.

Pussycat22 · 24/04/2025 20:06

Rosscameasdoody · 24/04/2025 20:00

Including the disabled ? If so, what’s your problem with my response ?

None whatsoever, I am entitled to an opinion.

Rosieposy89 · 24/04/2025 20:02

I can't get worked up about it. It's just a theme park...

SauvignonBlanche · 24/04/2025 20:02

You’d have to an absolute cunt to this.
Just LTB