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He no longer wants kids

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Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 08:19

I’m a bit lost here so was hoping for some opinions on my current position please.

I’m 41 and have been with my partner, 39, for 8 years (1 engaged). We are currently renovating our first home together and I love him to bits. He is the only person who has ever completely understood me and he has helped me to grow so much while we’ve been together. I’ve also supported him and helped him to grow into someone who is more secure and aware of his own value. He is a kind person and thinks of me a lot.

From the very start, we both wanted children. We’ve had so many conversations about it that it was never really considered to be an issue, until last year. My partner has been through some difficult times over the last 2-3 years (including the loss of a parent and an increase in narcissistic behaviour from the remaining parent as well as significant work stress) and he has been in a very dark place at times. Now that we are finally in a position where we have some security to try for a child (as my age is already against me somewhat) he has decided that he no longer wants a child.

He didn’t tell me outright for some time. It’s been a topic of conversation for 16 months and he only admitted it at the end of last year. His response has always been either just a quiet grunt, ‘ok’ or no response at all with a look akin to a deer caught in the headlights. In the meantime I have to mix with his friends and all of their children and he doesn’t seem to see how difficult that is for me.

I had a coil which I was struggling with (pain, heavy periods etc) and he suggested getting it removed about 2.5 years ago and trying for a baby then. By the time I’d managed to have it removed 4 months later though, he’d changed his mind and I went on the pill. It doesn’t agree with me (moods, loss of desire etc) and this also seems to have caused some issues between us, even though there is little I can do to change that without coming off the pill.

We talk about it but I usually end up upset and, to try to pacify me, he says that we can try. I know he is only saying that and doesn’t mean it though so I ask him to speak about it the following day, when things have calmed, and he doesn’t. This has happened at least 10 times now and it is hurting.

If he had told me properly about his change of heart then I would not have bought the house with him. Really, I had little idea of how things had changed with him.

Over the last few days things seem to have come to a head. I just can’t cope with him almost playing games now and, after being upset a couple of nights ago and sleeping on the couch, I’ve told him that we can’t continue and that we need to split before I hate him for this. The situation is difficult, with the house renovation, and we’ll probably end up having to keep going with this for a bit until we can sell it and move on.

My head is telling me I’m overreacting and that I can’t leave him as he is everything to me. I just can’t keep being dragged down by this baby thing as it is taking over my
life and I’m beginning to hate him for it. It is, to me, a point of fundamental incompatibility and I feel betrayed. My mind is reeling - do we go for counselling to see if we can deal with this? Is it dead in the water now, even with the love on both sides? I can’t see up for down at the minute and I don’t know whether I’m talking myself round, only to be stuck again. I probably won’t go on to have children anyway if we split. I’m quite shy and finding someone new to trust in that way probably won’t be doable in time for me to try for a child. I just don’t know what to do at the moment. Has anyone got any thoughts on this please?

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TheHerboriste · 24/04/2025 19:15

Sennelier1 · 24/04/2025 18:18

He, being a man, has still many years left where he can change his mind on having children - or not. You, being a woman and 40+, do not have that luxury. Knowing myself, at this stage, I would stop taking my pill - ánd tell him ! That or regretting u till you're a 100 you never grabbed the chance to have a child when you still had the possibility. And yes, I would prefer raising a child on my own ober not havi g a child at all. (Of course these are only my personal feelings, maybe to you it feels totally different.)

What about from the POV of the new human being created? It wouldn’t be a child for long. No father. Older single mother it might get stick taking care of just as it’s entering the prime of life.

People need to put their own emotions on the back burner and think about the implications of these choices.

Lostcat · 24/04/2025 19:07

LadyTwattington · 23/04/2025 08:25

I am sorry to read this. He has the luxury of being able to change his mind again in 5 or 10 years; you don't. If having children is a deal-breaker, then the deal is broken.

In your situation, at your age, I would split and go for single parenthood via donor sperm - but then I always knew very firmly that I definitely wanted children, and time is not on your side.

This is what I would do OP. However, I would tell him first that you are coming off contraception and he can shit or get off the pot, so to speak. If he’s not up for that get some donor sperm or look for a coparent . You can always try self insemination first if you don’t want to do IVF.

Step into your power , OP. You have so much more than you think xx

laraitopbanana · 24/04/2025 18:59

You are not overreacting op.

If you would not have bought the house with him knowingly you won’t have children then you need to separate and figure out where you both are.

You know very well that it isn’t great to separate when things in life happen (loss of parents, change of family dynamic…etc…) but children is something you could really get resentful for so you need to figure it out if there is a future or not.

I am sorry op. Good luck🌺

trelawney59 · 24/04/2025 18:56

Chiseltip · 23/04/2025 08:33

At 41 your chances of getting pregnant and carrying a healthy baby to term are very low (despite what people say on here). It's likely already too late for you because if you split up, it will take a number of years for you to meet someone else and get into a position where kids are going to be up for discussion. By then it will be too late for you to get pregnant.

I'd give up on the baby, that ship has sailed.

Do you want to continue the relationship?

Had an uncomplicated pregnancy, full term healthy baby at 42 via donor sperm. First attempt at assisted conception too ( and I had a long term gynaecological problem as well).
If you really want to be a mum. It can happen. There are always individuals who defy the statistics. Living proof with my DC. 😀

SparklyLeader · 24/04/2025 18:56

If he doesn't want children, and you do, then he can be the person responsible for birth control. Get off the pill, contraception is no longer your problem. The real problem here is whether or not he's willing to walk the talk or has he already walked the talk? Has he had, or is he going to have, a vasectomy? If he has not yet had a vasectomy then what he may be saying is he doesn't want children with you. If he is willing to let you age out of fecundity but unwilling to curtail his own reproductive system, then you have your answer.

Waiting over a year before he told you while letting you be the person responsible for birth control is manipulative and selfish because it signaled to you that he was willing to have children. That was him stealing fertile time from you. That's not a little thing, it's huge, and massively self-consumed.

He has stolen precious time from you and betrayed you at a fundamental level.

You are someone who knows how to be in a long term relationship and you are very patient and have worked on yourself. You will find another partner who will love you and want children with you. People come and go in our lives and we have to let them. It is not easy.

Noodles1234 · 24/04/2025 18:50

My exH did this, hence he is now an ex.

your DP has seriously messed you around BIG time! This is a major life decision and he has left you hanging while you are now in a possibly trickier time to ttc. Not impossible though.
Personally I could never forgive or forget this, so if he doesn’t change his mind personally I’d leave him. Id rather have the chance and if he is any sort of substance he will too. But be ready for he won’t and even if he does do you want him as a fellow parent?
if you’re serious check out sperm donor ivf clinics, London, Barcelona and India specialise in women over 40. Good luck.

Duchesscheshire · 24/04/2025 18:37

My partner and I agreed we didn't want children when I was 16 and he was 19. We happily lived together for over 10 years, but I changed my mind at 30. I wanted children. He was a good man, and we talked about it. I told him it was make or break, we either have children or go our separate ways. Thankfully, he agreed, and we had two fabulous sons. At 40, you are getting very close to not being able to conceive. You need a strict conversation and an ultimatum. Have children or split up. You will always be angry with him if you don't do something

Gordorules · 24/04/2025 18:26

You’re not and if he doesn’t want kids walk away now so you can still have kids! I never wanted kids but I have 2 and love them more than anything!! You don’t have the luxury of waiting to see.

Lotsofsnacks · 24/04/2025 18:25

Hi OP your DP needed a baby ultimatum 5 years ago, not just now, so you had time to act, if he then said he wasn’t ready when you were 36. You could’ve found another partner in time. He dicked about yes, and gone back on an agreement, but you have just let him do this, with no pressure on him, about your feelings on the matter. Hes let your clock run down. You need to have it out with him once n for all. If he won’t change his mind then unfortunately it’s probably the end of the road for your relationship

Sennelier1 · 24/04/2025 18:18

He, being a man, has still many years left where he can change his mind on having children - or not. You, being a woman and 40+, do not have that luxury. Knowing myself, at this stage, I would stop taking my pill - ánd tell him ! That or regretting u till you're a 100 you never grabbed the chance to have a child when you still had the possibility. And yes, I would prefer raising a child on my own ober not havi g a child at all. (Of course these are only my personal feelings, maybe to you it feels totally different.)

Sofakingfunny · 24/04/2025 18:02

Don’t waste anymore time on this man, you will resent him for the rest of your life if you do … and understandably so. He has broken his promise, if he’d told you he didn’t want kids at the beginning you wouldn’t have continued the relationship. It’s a deal breaker so give him the ring back and tell him having children is a deal breaker and so here’s your ring. And you’ll be calling an agent to get property valued etc.
with what you get from the property, get a sperm donor and become the mother you long to be.

you are not unreasonable at all, I would be getting my ducks in a row and planning my future ..of which he won’t be a part of. I see this as a betrayal on his part, you had life plans and he just decides to change them and expect you to go along with it. No, not how this works. He’s got to go, trust has gone

Lulu49 · 24/04/2025 18:00

I had my last (4th) child at 41 so it is possible to go and have a child. I think you will hold this against him in years to come if you didn't at least try for a baby and you will split anyway and how would you feel if you split and he went on to have a child with someone else? I got talking to a woman on the bus a number of years back who at age ,52 and having never been able to find the right partner went to a sperm bank and had her little boy. Said it was the best thing she had ever done.

Dogsbreath7 · 24/04/2025 17:56

Firstly get off the pill. You should not put your health at risk for his benefit. He can use condoms. We did and after 15 years became pregnant when we chose to. It is a reliable contraception.

You know you will never be likely to have a child now. Age is against you from getting pregnant and finding a partner. If this was something you really wanted then I think you would have pushed harder than you have done and I don’t think (from your post) that you are financially or emotionally strong to go solo.

But can you stay with him and get over the resentment of how he strung you along? Make the decision child /no child then finish the house and see if relationship is repairable. He hasn’t been honest because if he had said so 8 years ago then you would have moved on.

Loverofoldfilms · 24/04/2025 17:53

Chiseltip · 23/04/2025 08:33

At 41 your chances of getting pregnant and carrying a healthy baby to term are very low (despite what people say on here). It's likely already too late for you because if you split up, it will take a number of years for you to meet someone else and get into a position where kids are going to be up for discussion. By then it will be too late for you to get pregnant.

I'd give up on the baby, that ship has sailed.

Do you want to continue the relationship?

"I'd give up on the baby, that ship has sailed."

No, not necessarily, but I'd cut my losses, get off the pill, consider a sperm donor , etc. I also think you need some counselling yourself. Be kind to yourself and honest.

LudvillasCave · 24/04/2025 09:17

LudvillasCave · 24/04/2025 09:15

Yes, see my previous post!

I always think this when there are stories about celebrities having babies in their 50s too. Chances are they either froze eggs or embryos at a younger age or used donor eggs.

LudvillasCave · 24/04/2025 09:15

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2025 09:14

I meant the poster’s 51 year old pal had donor eggs. So quoting her as a success story isn’t really helpful to the OP, who has indicated she doesn’t want to do IVF anyway.

Yes, see my previous post!

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2025 09:14

LudvillasCave · 24/04/2025 09:12

Why? Plenty of people use their own eggs at 40.

Edited

I meant the poster’s 51 year old pal had donor eggs. So quoting her as a success story isn’t really helpful to the OP, who has indicated she doesn’t want to do IVF anyway.

LudvillasCave · 24/04/2025 09:13

LudvillasCave · 24/04/2025 09:12

Why? Plenty of people use their own eggs at 40.

Edited

Ah, I guess you’re talking about the 50 yo! Yes I assumed she’d frozen embryos at a younger age or similar

LudvillasCave · 24/04/2025 09:12

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2025 09:10

I presume your pal had donor eggs?

Why? Plenty of people use their own eggs at 40.

LudvillasCave · 24/04/2025 09:11

pinkdelight · 24/04/2025 09:00

I'm pretty bad at maths but I don't think that's how percentages work - 8% a month becoming 75% a year. If the chance on not becoming pregnant each month is 92%, then the chance of a pregnancy in a year is no way getting close to 75%. And it's as much about being able to keep the pregnancy to term as it it to get pregnant. There's lots of different figures being given on this thread, plus the usual 'my friend got pregnant no problem at 48', but unless OP starts trying or gets her fertility checked out, she's no way of knowing what her reality will be.

I used a cumulative probability calculator online 🤷🏻‍♀️ I didn’t think it sounded right either.

And yes, agree

KimberleyClark · 24/04/2025 09:10

LooserWooner77 · 23/04/2025 20:48

OP, a relative went through Sperm donation or IVF at 40 and success the second time. A pal got pregnant via IVF early 50s.

It's not out of the realms of possibility, if you want a child.

I presume your pal had donor eggs?

Fletchasketch · 24/04/2025 09:06

pinkdelight · 24/04/2025 09:00

I'm pretty bad at maths but I don't think that's how percentages work - 8% a month becoming 75% a year. If the chance on not becoming pregnant each month is 92%, then the chance of a pregnancy in a year is no way getting close to 75%. And it's as much about being able to keep the pregnancy to term as it it to get pregnant. There's lots of different figures being given on this thread, plus the usual 'my friend got pregnant no problem at 48', but unless OP starts trying or gets her fertility checked out, she's no way of knowing what her reality will be.

Exactly. It’s 0.92 to the power of 12 which is a 37% chance of not getting pregnant. As many have pointed out, these numbers vary wildly based on individual circumstance. It’s valid to say it may not possible, but equally valid to say there’s a good chance of success. The first step is to get tested, though I think the OP may have made a different decision, I wish her all the luck and happiness.

pinkdelight · 24/04/2025 09:00

LudvillasCave · 24/04/2025 08:06

With an 8% chance (or thereabouts) each month, the probability of becoming pregnant in a year is apparently 75%. This doesn’t sound right either though? I suppose that’s on the basis of no problems whatsoever on the male side, whereas in reality, age affects men’s fertility too.

I'm pretty bad at maths but I don't think that's how percentages work - 8% a month becoming 75% a year. If the chance on not becoming pregnant each month is 92%, then the chance of a pregnancy in a year is no way getting close to 75%. And it's as much about being able to keep the pregnancy to term as it it to get pregnant. There's lots of different figures being given on this thread, plus the usual 'my friend got pregnant no problem at 48', but unless OP starts trying or gets her fertility checked out, she's no way of knowing what her reality will be.

The13thFairy · 24/04/2025 08:43

Clockface8 · 23/04/2025 08:25

Your first home together… so only recently moved in together? Or lived together for some time and just bought together?

You're trapped now, with the house, so now he is letting his real self seep out. I am sorry for your loss - the loss of the child you might have had, and the loss of the man you thought was kind. You're right about one thing, though - he really does understand you. He's played you like a fiddle. Please think about moving toward a life without this misbegotten git in it. You can be content alone, you really can.

Askingforafriendtoday · 24/04/2025 08:13

Just saying: 2 healthy children at age 41 and 43 respectively, much older husband. ( 2 miscarriages inbetween live birtgs and 1 following youngest).
I do understand that OP's ND adds a considerable complication...feel for you OP ++++