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Lizzielost · 23/04/2025 08:19

I’m a bit lost here so was hoping for some opinions on my current position please.

I’m 41 and have been with my partner, 39, for 8 years (1 engaged). We are currently renovating our first home together and I love him to bits. He is the only person who has ever completely understood me and he has helped me to grow so much while we’ve been together. I’ve also supported him and helped him to grow into someone who is more secure and aware of his own value. He is a kind person and thinks of me a lot.

From the very start, we both wanted children. We’ve had so many conversations about it that it was never really considered to be an issue, until last year. My partner has been through some difficult times over the last 2-3 years (including the loss of a parent and an increase in narcissistic behaviour from the remaining parent as well as significant work stress) and he has been in a very dark place at times. Now that we are finally in a position where we have some security to try for a child (as my age is already against me somewhat) he has decided that he no longer wants a child.

He didn’t tell me outright for some time. It’s been a topic of conversation for 16 months and he only admitted it at the end of last year. His response has always been either just a quiet grunt, ‘ok’ or no response at all with a look akin to a deer caught in the headlights. In the meantime I have to mix with his friends and all of their children and he doesn’t seem to see how difficult that is for me.

I had a coil which I was struggling with (pain, heavy periods etc) and he suggested getting it removed about 2.5 years ago and trying for a baby then. By the time I’d managed to have it removed 4 months later though, he’d changed his mind and I went on the pill. It doesn’t agree with me (moods, loss of desire etc) and this also seems to have caused some issues between us, even though there is little I can do to change that without coming off the pill.

We talk about it but I usually end up upset and, to try to pacify me, he says that we can try. I know he is only saying that and doesn’t mean it though so I ask him to speak about it the following day, when things have calmed, and he doesn’t. This has happened at least 10 times now and it is hurting.

If he had told me properly about his change of heart then I would not have bought the house with him. Really, I had little idea of how things had changed with him.

Over the last few days things seem to have come to a head. I just can’t cope with him almost playing games now and, after being upset a couple of nights ago and sleeping on the couch, I’ve told him that we can’t continue and that we need to split before I hate him for this. The situation is difficult, with the house renovation, and we’ll probably end up having to keep going with this for a bit until we can sell it and move on.

My head is telling me I’m overreacting and that I can’t leave him as he is everything to me. I just can’t keep being dragged down by this baby thing as it is taking over my
life and I’m beginning to hate him for it. It is, to me, a point of fundamental incompatibility and I feel betrayed. My mind is reeling - do we go for counselling to see if we can deal with this? Is it dead in the water now, even with the love on both sides? I can’t see up for down at the minute and I don’t know whether I’m talking myself round, only to be stuck again. I probably won’t go on to have children anyway if we split. I’m quite shy and finding someone new to trust in that way probably won’t be doable in time for me to try for a child. I just don’t know what to do at the moment. Has anyone got any thoughts on this please?

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Brocsacoille · 23/04/2025 09:13

PicaK · 23/04/2025 08:29

In the gentlest way possible you have probably left it too late to have children. I would get some counselling. If you leave him you might have no partner and no birth children. Yes he's messed you about but you have also been in denial a little bit.

I’d rather be single than with someone who had stolen my chance of having children from me.

CantStopMoving · 23/04/2025 09:10

Honestly if it was deal breaker for me, I’d be moved out by tomorrow and off to the sperm bank and do it alone. You have zero time to waste now and he’s mucked you around quite cruelly.

Solocatmum · 23/04/2025 09:09

A friend of mine nearly 40 at time booked appt at IVF clinic to go it alone, told him he had 3 months til her treatment started and he had to make a decision.
in her case, he realised he wanted her with a baby more than not her at all. Pregnant, married and second on way.

In your case, I would just get down the clinic whether or not he will be the father - 41 is getting optimistic regardless and every month things move on. Miscarriages more likely. Get the eggs/embryos in freezer now and give yourself a chance.

if you don’t try and he’s effectively tricked you into losing your chance, you will never forgive and at some point it’s going to fold. Sadly, he’ll probably move on and have kids with someone else eventually.

be kind to yourself

TheHerboriste · 23/04/2025 09:09

NorthernGirl1981 · 23/04/2025 08:57

I’m another one who is confused as to why it’s been left this late?

Most couples who have been together for 9 years have married (if they wanted to) and started a family, possibly having even more than child, even if they meet their partner at a much younger age than 32/33 (as was your case).

When he told you two years ago that he wasn’t sure about having children, when you were 39 years old, that’s when it should have been ultimatum time, or the time that you left.

You’ve now let this drag on for another two years and your chance of having a successful pregnancy in a committed relationship with someone who wants the same thing has probably passed you by now.

I’m sorry to say it but I think you need to accept that the life you had wanted is not the one you are going to get.

So the question is whether you continue staying with a man that you love and accept that children are very unlikely to be part of your future, or leave him and try fertility treatment with a sperm donor.

It will be a hard choice to make but it’s one you need to make soon.

Well said.

He being scapegoated but OP had agency all this time. She’s not a victim.

CandidRaven · 23/04/2025 09:08

People are entitled to change their minds about something as big as having a baby but I think these things should have been discussed much sooner given your age, you should have sat down and had a proper conversation about this years ago and then come to a decision on if you wanted to continue the relationship or not, I think you either have to stay with him and accept a baby wont happen, leave him and hope you find someone in time to have a baby with (unlikely) or go it alone with a sperm donor which you would have to be pretty quick about also, I would also advise getting your fertility checked at this stage to find out if having a baby is even possible for you

RancidRuby · 23/04/2025 09:07

Clockface8 · 23/04/2025 08:26

Op it would seem he has changed his mind quite a bit over the years on this issue and been far from committed to the idea

I think so too. OP, you say he suggested 2.5 years ago to start trying for a baby after having your coil removed but then changed his mind a few months later. This change of heart isn't a recent thing.

Withoutfearorfavour · 23/04/2025 09:04

NuffSaidSam · 23/04/2025 09:02

Maybe she'd prefer that to no baby at all?

That’s exactly what my partner’s ex thought would happen that she’d get the baby and he’d go away and leave her to it
Hasn’t worked out like that and now she has to give her baby to somebody else 50% of the time. Not exactly what she had planned.

2025willbemytime · 23/04/2025 09:03

There isn't a single man in the world giving up the chance to have a child for.

I spent two years with someone, got engaged, then it became clear he didn't want marriage and kids. The next man I asked on the first date if he wanted them as I wasn't wasting any more time. I would have walked away if he'd said no or at the first sniff of a change of mind.

A neighbour found at after marriage, at late twenties, her new husband didn't want kids. They are mid sixties now. She's still sad. He regrets it.

Use your brain. Listen to your ovaries. But do not have a child with this man. It is unacceptable to go in to it with a reluctant father. Don't bank on him sticking around. It's selfish to do that.

SaladSandwichesForTea · 23/04/2025 09:02
  1. He doesnt want kids.
  2. Agreeing to try to placate you isnt enthusiastic consent and it is not best for the child.
  3. Don't pretend to yourself that he hasn't willingly lied to you to keep you and time you out.
  4. You almost certainly have been timed out and need to plan on that basis. I'm so sorry.
  5. You can choose a man that did this to you amd make the best of it or you cam start over.

I know its tempting to stay and try for a baby as a last shot but he won't be a good dad as he doesnt want children and the first rule of being a parent is putting your child first. I don't envy your position at all.

NuffSaidSam · 23/04/2025 09:02

Cinai2 · 23/04/2025 08:55

Because she’ll be the one ending up being a single mum when he runs off after baby is born. Simples. Never said it’s fair but let’s be realistic.

Maybe she'd prefer that to no baby at all?

Starlight1984 · 23/04/2025 09:00

Maray1967 · 23/04/2025 08:23

He has seriously dicked around here, hasn’t he? My response would be clear: I would be coming off contraception and telling him that I want a child. If he doesn’t want one he needs to leave.

What he is doing is the very antithesis of kind.

What?!?! This is an absolutely insane idea. This is a child!!! Not a goldfish or a hamster!!! So

Please don't do this OP.

Daisyvodka · 23/04/2025 08:58

Clockface8 · 23/04/2025 08:43

It did

2.5 years ago he explicitly told the op to stop trying for a baby

Oh sorry, I read that as he told her he wanted to stop trying at that time, with it being implied they'd try later, not that he didn't want a baby at all.
But even then... 2.5 years ago, they had been together for 5.5 years, OP was already 38/39, if we wind back a bit further, if they had been together 3 years when OP was already 37/38 surely OP would have been aware that they were already cutting it fine? That's what I mean, how has this not blown up sooner.

NorthernGirl1981 · 23/04/2025 08:58

Cinai2 · 23/04/2025 08:55

Because she’ll be the one ending up being a single mum when he runs off after baby is born. Simples. Never said it’s fair but let’s be realistic.

Which is no different to being a single mum if she decides to use a sperm donor?

NorthernGirl1981 · 23/04/2025 08:57

I’m another one who is confused as to why it’s been left this late?

Most couples who have been together for 9 years have married (if they wanted to) and started a family, possibly having even more than child, even if they meet their partner at a much younger age than 32/33 (as was your case).

When he told you two years ago that he wasn’t sure about having children, when you were 39 years old, that’s when it should have been ultimatum time, or the time that you left.

You’ve now let this drag on for another two years and your chance of having a successful pregnancy in a committed relationship with someone who wants the same thing has probably passed you by now.

I’m sorry to say it but I think you need to accept that the life you had wanted is not the one you are going to get.

So the question is whether you continue staying with a man that you love and accept that children are very unlikely to be part of your future, or leave him and try fertility treatment with a sperm donor.

It will be a hard choice to make but it’s one you need to make soon.

Matronic6 · 23/04/2025 08:56

If there is a chance you do want a baby with him or via treatment I would come off the pill in now. I came off the pill over a year ago and my cycle has still not resumed. So if you want to vid yourself the best chance come off the pill and use alternative contraception that wont affect your body.

Cinai2 · 23/04/2025 08:55

NuffSaidSam · 23/04/2025 08:43

You think she should keep taking contraception that doesn't agree with her rather than asking him to use a condom?! Why?

Because she’ll be the one ending up being a single mum when he runs off after baby is born. Simples. Never said it’s fair but let’s be realistic.

herbalteabag · 23/04/2025 08:54

It would be a deal breaker for me. Being a parent was far more important to me than staying with someone who didn't want them.
You say he used to want them though - was he lying then or is there a reason he doesn't feel he wants to become a parent right now? Regardless, it's now or never.

Viviennemary · 23/04/2025 08:53

It's very late in the day to start trying to conceive without the added drawback if a reluctant partner. Of course he shouldn't have messed you around like this. He us happy with things as they are and you're not. I would just stop using contraception. And refuse to have sex with a condom. Or end the relationship completely. No point in any more discussions.

SummerFeverVenice · 23/04/2025 08:52

This is very sad and happened to my brother too. His wife said she wanted kids from the start and then around 38 changed her mind. It happens without any intent to mislead. The idea of kids can seem really attractive but then when you actually look at getting pregnant and the commitment, many people eventually realise they just wouldn’t be able to be the parent a child deserves. To get to that realisation often takes years of self-denial or telling yourself I can’t think about it until I have a career and stable income, then I can’t think about children until I own a home. It’s only once you have checked off every box of what you should have before having a child that you really start to face the reality of parenthood.

So it is heartbreaking when a couple reaches the point of this is it, now or never, time for a child and one is still yeah let’s do it and the other is oh no I don’t think I can go through with it. It’s bitterly disappointing, but not really a betrayal imho.

I agree you need to be realistic about your age in terms of pregnancy and childbirth. You do have a partner that loves you and that is worth a lot. However, if you want a child you would need to split up and go for artificial insemination as a single mum to have the best chance of having your own biological baby. I don’t think at 41 there is time to find another partner and naturally fall pregnant.

If you just want to be a mother and being a stepmom would fulfill that, then it’s split up and find a partner with young children.

Arguing in a loop with your current partner is not going to solve things, you’ve been trying that for over a year. As much as he has tried, he seems to genuinely have come to the realisation he doesn’t want children after all. You can’t guilt or emotionally blackmail someone into being a parent, nor do you want to as you’ve been really admirable in not taking his “we can try” at face value.

It’s time to assess what do you want most in life, we can’t always meet all our life goals. Is having children worth sacrificing your partner? If it is, that is totally fine. We only have one life to live and you’ve spent half your life not a mother, it’s ok to spend the next half as a mother if that’s what you want. It’s ok for him to have changed his mind, but it’s equally ok for you to say that is a deal breaker.

Bearbookagainandagain · 23/04/2025 08:51

You don't have to answer that, but if you met at 32-33, why did you wait until your late 30s to consider trying?
I'm asking because, based on what happened in the past few years, I would look back at whether he was the main influence for things to go that way (eg. "Of course I want kids, but let's wait to buy a house, Let's wait until I get that new job, Let's wait until....).

The question is: has he really been dicking you around like others have said? That would be the end of the relationship for me.

If that's really what you want, have a child on your own, you'll be better off.

AnneLovesGilbert · 23/04/2025 08:51

Spankmeonthebottomwithawomansweekly · 23/04/2025 08:49

You need to act quickly. Whether he stays or goes is up to him. Frankly, he’s done this to you, how can you forgive that?

They’ve both let the faffing around babies go on this long. If you really really want to be a mum it’s naive to wait until you’re in your 40s to get serious about it.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 23/04/2025 08:51

Op I would go for a fertility mot to see what your chances are then decide if you want to try with him, give up, have one by yourself with sperm donor

Createausername1970 · 23/04/2025 08:50

Can you take some time off work and go away on your own? Sometimes getting some space between me and the other person/issue can help me process and think about things a bit clearer. I am not saying "leave him" just get some time to yourself.

I understand the need to have a child, but thinking it won't ever happen. In my case it was miscarriages, but it doesn't matter why, it's the same sense of loss of what might have been. But you are also dealing with the potential loss of your relationship too.

Being practical, having children in later life does have it's downsides, it's not been plain sailing and there have been times when I really really wished I didn't have this teenage shit to deal with. We have passed through that now, but I still do wonder about what my life might have been had we not adopted. I would be financially better of, have a bigger pension pot and would have travelled more.

Your DH has not behaved well about this, and it would make me view him differently, how much can I rely on him in times of trouble? But I also can see he has been struggling with dealing with parental loss and the remaining parent becoming a problem. Maybe he doesn't feel he has the emotional bandwidth to deal with both ends of the spectrum - aging parent and young baby.

Don't throw away an otherwise strong relationship - but be sure it is a strong relationship before you put aside the possibility of having children if it's what you really want.

AbigfanofDogs · 23/04/2025 08:49

My Mum had a similar issue with my Dad (childhood sweethearts, 18 year relationship) he didn’t want kids and she did. She got pregnant twice “by accident on the pill”. He left after me and my twin were born.

Don’t have children with an unwilling man. Now I’m in my 30’s and in a similar position (except my partner is brilliant and nothing like my dad)

I won’t force the subject as I only want to have children if my partner is keen (obviously there is never a perfect time). I’ve settled for being an aunt and having a comfortable lifestyle and great holidays.

I am working on getting a spaniel though!

Spankmeonthebottomwithawomansweekly · 23/04/2025 08:49

You need to act quickly. Whether he stays or goes is up to him. Frankly, he’s done this to you, how can you forgive that?