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ILs “gifting” home

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Zingtang · 22/04/2025 22:19

So I’m writing this on behalf of my sister. Shes not a mumnsetter but I told her she would get great advice.

Sister’s ILs are well off. They have offered to buy a home for my sister and her husband. BUT they would want the property in their name in case of divorce. They would charge no rent. Sister has been saving for a house deposit for the best part of a decade. ILs suggest she buys an investment property with her husband if she wants to iwn property.

This is the set up for all the ILs kids who are married. They have had contracts drawn up so they are not turfed out if there was a falling out etc.

Sister is dead set against it. I say why the hell not! She wants a home that feels entirely hers ie she would feel a lodger with this set up.

OP posts:
heroinechic · 23/04/2025 09:17

No I wouldn’t be happy with this arrangement. I wouldn’t settle in a house that wasn’t my own. I also find it quite offensive that the in laws won’t put the house in their name in case of divorce.

When the in laws die it will form part of their estate for IHT/probate purposes. If they require care the houses might need to be sold to pay for it. There’s no security for your sister there and the constant feeling that the in laws have this control over her.

queenofthesuburbs · 23/04/2025 09:16

Your SIL should use her savings to buy an investment house but in her own name only; not jointly with her husband.
Caveat… I’m not a family lawyer, but surely otherwise if they were to divorce, she would have no right to the “marital” home and only 50% of the investment house

Alwaystired23 · 23/04/2025 09:14

I would hate this offer and it'd be a firm no. I agree with others, it's very controlling. Why do the inlaws feel they need to do this? If they cared that much they'd put the house in the couples name? They'd happily see the mother of their grandchildren not get anything if they were to divorce? No equity they would have built up start again? Weird.

Middlechild3 · 23/04/2025 09:13

I'm with your sister. It's horribly controlling of the ILS and do they have a key to pop round when they want as it's their house? No crack on sister and aim for your own marital owned place. If they want to gift something/anything it should come with no strings attached else it's not really a gift. This is their vision not your sister's. It may be in their name but it will go to their son no doubt when they pass. It's purely to stop your sister benefitting in the event of a split and all the implications of that.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 23/04/2025 09:13

AprilShowers25 · 23/04/2025 09:04

The DH would have no incentive to save. He gets a free house to live in and presumably a big inheritance coming later on, I predict he would not want to move out and would prefer to splash the extra money on luxuries and holidays.

This is a fair point actually.

when i look at our friends the ones with rich parents who get "help" with house deposits and have parents paying for GC childcare and private schools do IMO piss money up the wall like its going out fashion vs me and my DH (who earn similar or more).
Like happily buying 3 x £250 shirts on a whim 🥴 summer hols are 15k 😵‍💫

one husband doesnt have ANY pension, not even minimum matched contributions. He opted out of all his company ones because "he won't need it".

On reflection I do think there are complexities/dependancies...
the DH, plans for children and especially the in laws, if they are tricky characters it might be challenging.

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 09:12

Naunet · 23/04/2025 09:10

From the OP:

Sister has been saving for a house deposit for the best part of a decade

It doesn't say if he's been saving too.

In which case she would be no worse off living in a rent free house.

Naunet · 23/04/2025 09:10

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 09:08

Well they clearly don’t have much motivation to save now anyway since they have no money of their own!

From the OP:

Sister has been saving for a house deposit for the best part of a decade

It doesn't say if he's been saving too.

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 09:08

AprilShowers25 · 23/04/2025 09:04

The DH would have no incentive to save. He gets a free house to live in and presumably a big inheritance coming later on, I predict he would not want to move out and would prefer to splash the extra money on luxuries and holidays.

Well they clearly don’t have much motivation to save now anyway since they have no money of their own!

andtheworldrollson · 23/04/2025 09:07

What happens when the in-laws die? With multiple homes in their names they are likely to be well over an inheritance tax threasholds - they would need to save for that as a minimum

Ellie1015 · 23/04/2025 09:07

I would do it. And whatever I normally pay in rent or save for deposit I would continue to save on my own. Or buy investment property as ILs suggest.

If after moving in the ILs are too annoying/controlling then move out. I would be happy to try it though.

notsureyetcertain · 23/04/2025 09:05

I’d be tempted particularly if it’s working ok for others. They are not very optimistic for their children’s choices in partners! I’d do it save my mortgage payments in a separate account so I have exit strategy if needed

AprilShowers25 · 23/04/2025 09:04

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 09:00

I’m really not sure point you are making. If she’s the only one saving they have issues either way and it has nothing to do with the inlaw’s house.
If they divorce now she gets basically nothing because they have nothing.
Half the savings they accumulate from not having to pay rent is a hell of a lot more than she has right now.

The DH would have no incentive to save. He gets a free house to live in and presumably a big inheritance coming later on, I predict he would not want to move out and would prefer to splash the extra money on luxuries and holidays.

FloatingSquirrel · 23/04/2025 09:04

If it's in their name and they've done the same for his siblings then unless they have a huge amount of savings as well they will likely lose the home to inheritance tax when the parents die.

MaltipooMama · 23/04/2025 09:04

Absolutely not a chance would I give anyone else complete control over such an important decision with terms attached. Buying a home is a very personal choice and to have no free will with it wouldn’t feel right at all. I agree with some PPs that this feels very controlling!

thepariscrimefiles · 23/04/2025 09:03

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 23/04/2025 08:58

So in her position I would buy my own little home to live in first so I would benefit from no stamp duty and teh government help if she has a LISA etc, then move out into the big house that's been bought and rent out my little home.
Little home will always be good income and somewhere to live in place of divorce.
I wouldn't spend more money on upkeep than I would on a rental property

If OP's sister does this and then divorces, her ex-DH would be entitled to 50% of her property, and because the family home is actually owned by the PILs, OP would get nothing from that. I would assume that after the divorce, the OP's PILs would then put the house in their son's name. So he would have 1.5 properties and OP's sister would have 0.5 properties. That doesn't sound like a great deal for OP's sister.

Naunet · 23/04/2025 09:03

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 09:00

I’m really not sure point you are making. If she’s the only one saving they have issues either way and it has nothing to do with the inlaw’s house.
If they divorce now she gets basically nothing because they have nothing.
Half the savings they accumulate from not having to pay rent is a hell of a lot more than she has right now.

Well of course it does! He has a house, he may have no motivation to become a landlord, because he knows he's looked after by his family. If that wasn't the case, he may feel differently.

ShillyShallySherbet · 23/04/2025 09:03

Would they instead buy them an investment property in the ILs name but let them manage it and keep any income? I agree with your sister wanting to buy her own house with her husband and not feel like a tenant of her ILs.

AprilShowers25 · 23/04/2025 09:02

I wouldn’t do it. Even if you were to live there short term and save up, DH might not want to move out. He might not bother saving and just spend the extra money on luxuries. In laws could kick you out at any point. They could be really opinionated on any decor you choose, make you anxious about any wear and tear. There are too many reasons to list why it is a bad idea.

FigTreeInEurope · 23/04/2025 09:01

When someone wants to make you their puppet, there are always strings attached.

Sofiewoo · 23/04/2025 09:00

Naunet · 23/04/2025 08:54

You said SHE could buy a place, not both of them. But OK, do we know if he wants to do that? It won't help OP if they split, she'd still have nowhere to go and would only be entitled to half her own savings from this venture (if they haven't had kids).

I’m really not sure point you are making. If she’s the only one saving they have issues either way and it has nothing to do with the inlaw’s house.
If they divorce now she gets basically nothing because they have nothing.
Half the savings they accumulate from not having to pay rent is a hell of a lot more than she has right now.

SerafinasGoose · 23/04/2025 09:00

Naunet · 23/04/2025 08:55

Exactly this.

To me the price isn't worth the potential cost - not even if my in-laws were the best people in the world.

There are too many conditions attached, too much being done on their sole terms, and too much possibility for the souring of relationships.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 23/04/2025 08:58

So in her position I would buy my own little home to live in first so I would benefit from no stamp duty and teh government help if she has a LISA etc, then move out into the big house that's been bought and rent out my little home.
Little home will always be good income and somewhere to live in place of divorce.
I wouldn't spend more money on upkeep than I would on a rental property

14680345L · 23/04/2025 08:56

I’d say yes but I would want an investment property in just my name with paperwork drawn up so my spouse had no claim to it if we divorced. I would then rent it out and overpay as much as possible so I owned it outright.

ilovesushi · 23/04/2025 08:56

Sounds like a very weird set up. Why would they want to exclude their sons/daughters in law? If she does go ahead, she should invest the money she is not spending on a mortgage for herself so she doesn't find herself high and dry one day.

researchers3 · 23/04/2025 08:56

I think your sister should trust her own instincts on this one. There is much potential for this arrangement to go tits up!

No from me.

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