Page 2 | To think some working-class people glorify struggle and reject improvement out of pride?

BallerinaRadio · 22/04/2025 18:56

MereNoelle · 22/04/2025 18:53

Fucking hell, what is with all these tedious posts using the exact same format?

I'd say there's more of these than genuine posts these days

Coffeeishot · 22/04/2025 18:56

ByBusyOpalHare · 22/04/2025 18:50

I know structural inequality is real and resources aren’t evenly distributed. My point wasn’t that everyone can just “improve themselves” easily. It was more about the mindset I’ve seen in some people - where change is available but it’s rejected out of pride, fear, or identity. That’s very different from people being blocked by lack of opportunity.

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What change what people what are you talking about?

ilovesooty · 22/04/2025 18:55

Please make it stop.

Coffeeishot · 22/04/2025 18:54

ByBusyOpalHare · 22/04/2025 18:42

It’s easier to say “I’m real” than to admit you’re scared of change.

Can you elaborate?

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ByBusyOpalHare · 22/04/2025 18:54

Furtivenasturtium · 22/04/2025 18:44

What do you mean by "improvement"? Do working class people need improving in some way? They might feel they're good enough just as they are.

I don’t mean that working-class people need ‘fixing’ or that they’re not good enough. I meant improvement in the sense of changing circumstances when opportunity exists - like pursuing education, moving to a different area or trying a new way of living. The post was about how some people reject those changes not because they can’t access them but because they associate staying the same with being ‘real’ or loyal to their roots. It’s more about mindset than worth.

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1SillySossij · 22/04/2025 18:53

ByBusyOpalHare · 22/04/2025 18:50

I know structural inequality is real and resources aren’t evenly distributed. My point wasn’t that everyone can just “improve themselves” easily. It was more about the mindset I’ve seen in some people - where change is available but it’s rejected out of pride, fear, or identity. That’s very different from people being blocked by lack of opportunity.

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Are you asking why what you describe as change isn't viewed as 'improvement' by the people you are talking about?

MereNoelle · 22/04/2025 18:53

Fucking hell, what is with all these tedious posts using the exact same format?

JLou08 · 22/04/2025 18:52

I've never met a working class person who glorifies the struggle.

BallerinaRadio · 22/04/2025 18:52

ByBusyOpalHare · 22/04/2025 18:50

I know structural inequality is real and resources aren’t evenly distributed. My point wasn’t that everyone can just “improve themselves” easily. It was more about the mindset I’ve seen in some people - where change is available but it’s rejected out of pride, fear, or identity. That’s very different from people being blocked by lack of opportunity.

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Example?

1SillySossij · 22/04/2025 18:51

I think you are going to flesh out your question a little bit. What do you mean by improvement? Self improvement whatever that is, or an indoor bathroom constituting an improvement over a backyard privvy?

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ByBusyOpalHare · 22/04/2025 18:50

TwilightSkies · 22/04/2025 18:44

So you think all working-class people can just improve themselves? And there’s enough resources available for this to happen?

I know structural inequality is real and resources aren’t evenly distributed. My point wasn’t that everyone can just “improve themselves” easily. It was more about the mindset I’ve seen in some people - where change is available but it’s rejected out of pride, fear, or identity. That’s very different from people being blocked by lack of opportunity.

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Pentimenti · 22/04/2025 18:48

katkintreats · 22/04/2025 18:44

‘improvement’? 🤨

Oh dear, where to begin!

YABU. That is all.

Well, we unimproved WC are a sad predicament. Wallowing in gutters in our tracksuits cramming chips past our brown teeth.

BobbyBiscuits · 22/04/2025 18:47

What kind of change do you think they're scared of?
And working class... define it? Is it people who do manual jobs, builders, dustmen, etc?
Or do you mean people who have generationally lived solely on benefits?
Bit of a weird baity seeming thread tbh.

BallerinaRadio · 22/04/2025 18:47

It's easier just to be kind than make posts bashing people already struggling as it is.

Perkuppaige · 22/04/2025 18:45

How are you back again!

katkintreats · 22/04/2025 18:44

‘improvement’? 🤨

Oh dear, where to begin!

YABU. That is all.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 22/04/2025 18:44

What are you on about?

Pentimenti · 22/04/2025 18:44

You’ll need to flesh out your pithy premise, OP.

(WC person happy to embrace change.)

TwilightSkies · 22/04/2025 18:44

So you think all working-class people can just improve themselves? And there’s enough resources available for this to happen?

Furtivenasturtium · 22/04/2025 18:44

What do you mean by "improvement"? Do working class people need improving in some way? They might feel they're good enough just as they are.