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Helleofabore · 22/04/2025 18:05

I too am watching to see him twist this back soon.

This is what has been said by Keir Starmer in the past:

A woman is a female adult, and in addition to that trans women are women, and that is not just my view — that is actually the law. It has been the law through the combined effects of the 2004 [Gender Recognition] Act and the 2010 [Equality] Act. So that’s my view. It also happens to be the law in the United Kingdom.

https://archive.ph/1ZZW5

So I am just waiting for the 'and in addition ...' because I suspect it will be something like: A woman is a female adult, and in addition to that trans women are women in some aspects of the law.

Or something.

Maitri108 · 22/04/2025 17:36

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 22/04/2025 17:24

That's still not the same as saying 'Transwomen aren't women'.

I'm glad he's said this. Better late than never! I'm no fan of Starmer, but if 'being a total politician' means being willing to ditch the nonsense you felt you had to pretend to believe, now that you can see which way the wind is (finally) blowing, then frankly I'm all for it.

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When Starmer said that men have a penis and women have a vagina in June 2024, what do you think he meant?

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 22/04/2025 17:24

Maitri108 · 22/04/2025 17:15

He said before the election that biological women had the right to single-sex spaces, separate from biological men. He's just repeating what he said last year.

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That's still not the same as saying 'Transwomen aren't women'.

I'm glad he's said this. Better late than never! I'm no fan of Starmer, but if 'being a total politician' means being willing to ditch the nonsense you felt you had to pretend to believe, now that you can see which way the wind is (finally) blowing, then frankly I'm all for it.

Maitri108 · 22/04/2025 17:15

ArchibaldBoyd · 22/04/2025 16:37

He said 99.5% of women don't have a penis.

It's not quite the same thing.

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He said before the election that biological women had the right to single-sex spaces, separate from biological men. He's just repeating what he said last year.

BallerinaRadio · 22/04/2025 17:11

If this what makes your days happy you need to get out more

Junn · 22/04/2025 16:55

I know he’s a politician, I know he’s fudged it before. I just think it’s brilliant he can make this statement. It is a clear sign of how far we’ve come. This would have been unthinkable just a couple of years ago.

Orangemintcream · 22/04/2025 16:50

TonTonMacoute · 22/04/2025 16:39

He's a politician, what do you expect?

I have principles. If you don't like them, I have others!

Couldn’t agree more.

Total politician. His principles that he was so clear on pre election have suddenly changed as soon as it became obvious the way the wind was blowing.

TonTonMacoute · 22/04/2025 16:39

He's a politician, what do you expect?

I have principles. If you don't like them, I have others!

ArchibaldBoyd · 22/04/2025 16:37

Maitri108 · 22/04/2025 16:34

He said this before the election. It's not news.

He said 99.5% of women don't have a penis.

It's not quite the same thing.

Maitri108 · 22/04/2025 16:34

He said this before the election. It's not news.