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Should I be made to feel guilty for this?

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Burpeehater · 22/04/2025 11:16

I’m a single mum with 2 dds, 11 & 17.
My bf has asked if I’d like to go away for 7 nights, before we book I wanted to check with younger dds dad that he was ok to look after her for 7 nights, or if he couldn’t arrange for my mum to help out.
Eldest dd is more than capable of looking after herself.
I messaged youngest dds Dad last night to say would he be ok to have her, if not no problem as my mum would do it.
we don’t get along and have recently had a year and a half long non molestation order against him come to an end. I worded it in a way that didn’t make it sound like he had the control over me to stop me from going away, as he would say no if he thought he could.
His response was along the lines of ‘Wow!!! Have you not taken our daughter’s feelings into concern about this at all!’

Am I wrong for going on holiday without my DD’s? Is it something I should feel guilty for or is he just making me feel guilty for no reason?
I know whoever looks after my dd, she will be well looked after and happy, she’ll obviously miss me but we also have our own holiday to look forward to together later in the year.

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IButtleSir · 24/04/2025 08:27

DarcyProudman · 24/04/2025 07:22

Sorry, but I was a military child and this is a load of codswallop!! I’m now over 50 and in perfectly good working order mentally, as are all my old friends. I had a fantastic childhood, living in amazing places and my dad went away a lot. It had no impact on me at all 😀

I'm very glad that's the case for you, and others you know. I know a couple of military children who have very poor relationships with their dads, although it's obviously impossible to know whether that would have been the case even if their dads hadn't been away for a lot of their childhoods.

DarcyProudman · 24/04/2025 07:22

IButtleSir · 24/04/2025 06:35

"Mentally damaged" is absolutely not the phrase I'd use, but I do think spending so much time away from one of their parents will have a negative impact on their mental health, yes.

Sorry, but I was a military child and this is a load of codswallop!! I’m now over 50 and in perfectly good working order mentally, as are all my old friends. I had a fantastic childhood, living in amazing places and my dad went away a lot. It had no impact on me at all 😀

IButtleSir · 24/04/2025 06:35

couchparsnip · 23/04/2025 10:52

But do you think children of the armed forces etc are mentally damaged?

"Mentally damaged" is absolutely not the phrase I'd use, but I do think spending so much time away from one of their parents will have a negative impact on their mental health, yes.

couchparsnip · 23/04/2025 10:52

IButtleSir · 22/04/2025 17:21

Ah, someone else who's unable to disagree with someone without resorting to claims of 'nonsense'.

I agree one week is not a long period of time; my comment to HappySheldon was not regarding the OP's situation.

But do you think children of the armed forces etc are mentally damaged?

Burpeehater · 22/04/2025 20:04

I am still going regardless of whether he looks after dd or not, my mum will be on standby just incase.
I know it’s because he’s jealous and hates to do anything to help me out, but he would also take as much time with dd as possible.
He has this evening sent a message saying in a very passive aggressive way that he will of course always look after her.
He never replies to my messages and I know if I’d have asked without arranging my Mum to help first he would have never replied until the last minute, just because he’s a prick and he likes the control!

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Season0fthesticks · 22/04/2025 19:59

Cookiebix · 22/04/2025 11:50

As I said, just my personal view, which is based on working with young people struggling with the huge upsurge in anxiety we're seeing. It's complex and there are many contributing factors, but I do think the the priority parents place on spending time close to them makes a difference.

Obviously other people will think differently, but this is one (of many) things that have changed for our current young people. A generation ago it would have been practically unheard of for parents to holiday regularly without DC, except perhaps for the very wealthy, who's DC have always had fragile MH.

My mum wouldn't of gone on holiday without me. Infact she didn't ever leave me alone.
I have crippling anxiety due to it. I feel like I've been babied for a long time and infact struggle to do anything for myself
(Was made to go food shopping until 15) not allowed to be left home alone under any circumstances and as it was only her in the house, I had to go with her.
I'd definitely say a few days with dad would teach much more independence

Burpeehater · 22/04/2025 19:55

MoMhathair · 22/04/2025 15:25

I'm really confused. People are making a huge deal about you going away for a week OP, but completely ignoring the non-molestation order???

If you had to go as far as a non-molestation order, then clearly this guy is bad news. Are you happy leaving your daughter with him for a week, without being there to intervene?

The non molestation order was to protect myself from him and keep him away from harassing me.
I trust him with our daughter and he also lives with his parents and 2 sisters, who I know are there and will look after her too.

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RhaenysRocks · 22/04/2025 19:26

The problem with the opposite position to mine is that kids grow up and away and too many people find themselves with no identity and no idea what to do with themselves. It also, if taken too far, can give the kids an unhealthy sense of being the absolute priority always and never experience not being top of the list. In the end it's just an opinion and others are valid, but that's how I see it.

IButtleSir · 22/04/2025 18:53

RhaenysRocks · 22/04/2025 18:17

I genuinely enjoy spending time with my kids but it doesn't have to be ALL of my time, and being away from them is not an indication that I don't enjoy them. It's unhealthy to become so subsumed in your parenting role that you can't / won't do anything else.

Why is it okay for you to choose to spend time away from your kids, because you want to, but not okay for someone to choose not to spend time away from their kids (when they're not at work/school), because they don't want to? Can't both those things be okay?

RhaenysRocks · 22/04/2025 18:17

IButtleSir · 22/04/2025 17:25

She's not being a martyr if she genuinely enjoys spending time with her children!

I genuinely enjoy spending time with my kids but it doesn't have to be ALL of my time, and being away from them is not an indication that I don't enjoy them. It's unhealthy to become so subsumed in your parenting role that you can't / won't do anything else.

RhaenysRocks · 22/04/2025 18:07

Cookiebix · 22/04/2025 11:40

My own view, which I know others will disagree with, is that 7 days is a long time to go away without DC and also that choosing to spend family money and/or annual leave to spend so much time away from them, probably isn't helpful to them and their security/self esteem.

As I say, I know others will disagree, but depending on the children, and these have already had some challenges in their childhood, the message that mum wants to leave them for a week isn't helpful IMO. (You did ask!).

I've never understood why parents want to spend their precious leisure time away from DC though. I suppose if you're normally with them 24/7 that might be different

Wow really? You really can't imagine a person who happens to be a parent not wanting to take a little time out to just be "x" and not "mum"? Especially, as you say when that person is single parenting most of the time? It's absolutely fine to do this once in a while provided childcare is in place. So long as the child doesn't go without as a result, that's fine and actually, sometimes it is ok for single parents to put themselves first occasionally.

Cucy · 22/04/2025 18:01

He sounds jealous.

I’m sure he would never ever think to go away, even just for a weekend, without his DD 🙄

Daisy12Maisie · 22/04/2025 17:52

I am a single mum. I have often done things such as girls weekends away without my sons but we have done great holidays together as well. They are 16 and 18 and clearly like it that I have friends and funny stories and things to say and generally a life of my own although they are the most important thing in my life. Fine to go on holiday with bf as long as they are well looked after with grandma and let them know you are looking forward to the holiday with them as well.
With the dad as he has had a non molestation order against him he is clearly not a reasonable person so I wouldn’t ask him for anything of this nature ever again. Either go for shorter time periods eg long weekend or just make sure grandma can help. Not a criticism at all but just saying as I have been through similar with my children’s dad and they don’t change or have any interest in parenting their children if it means the children’s mum might have time to better her career/ go on holiday/ get some rest bite etc.

Sugarfish · 22/04/2025 17:47

Don’t feel guilty. His opinion means nothing. Mentally file it away in a box in your mind, and then visualise throwing it off a cliff.

Go and enjoy your holiday, and bring the kids back something nice.

IButtleSir · 22/04/2025 17:25

FortyElephants · 22/04/2025 17:18

You wouldn't leave your teenagers for a week with their dad or grandparents? Why on earth not? Do you like being a martyr?!

She's not being a martyr if she genuinely enjoys spending time with her children!

Freshflower · 22/04/2025 17:24

Nothing wrong with going away for 7 days if your daughter is happy for you to go and happy to spend the 7 days with him or your mum. Then nothing to feel guilty about

Winter2020 · 22/04/2025 17:23

Ask your mum to save the dates regardless so your ex letting you down can't scupper your holiday.

IButtleSir · 22/04/2025 17:21

couchparsnip · 22/04/2025 17:14

So all the children of people in the armed services or in the foreign office or whatever other job that takes them away - all of them are damaging their children? Don't talk nonsense.

And in any case - one week is not 'long periods of time'. It's one short period of time. An 11 year has the capacity to understand.

Ah, someone else who's unable to disagree with someone without resorting to claims of 'nonsense'.

I agree one week is not a long period of time; my comment to HappySheldon was not regarding the OP's situation.

IButtleSir · 22/04/2025 17:18

mamajong · 22/04/2025 17:12

Sorry but it is nonsensical to suggest that a parent going away for a week will cause mh issues, you cannot say this without knowing all the details and every child is different.

Agreeing to disagree is one thing but making outlandish claims is nonsensical and unhelpful (in my opinion 😉)

But that's not what I said, or what HappySheldon was referring to as nonsensical.

I never claimed that leaving a child for a week would lead to mental health issues; that was another poster. And HappySheldon said: "Criticising a mother who leaves her child with the other parent because of a mere week long holiday is nonsensical."

Now what was that you said about outlandish claims being nonsensical and unhelpful?

FortyElephants · 22/04/2025 17:18

CloudCustard · 22/04/2025 11:31

I’m aware of their ages, I can read.

I have teenagers and I still wouldn’t feel comfortable leaving them for 7 days.

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You wouldn't leave your teenagers for a week with their dad or grandparents? Why on earth not? Do you like being a martyr?!

chakrakkhan · 22/04/2025 17:16

Go and enjoy time away with your partner OP. Ask your mum to have the younger DD. He’s emotionally abusing you, ignore him.

chakrakkhan · 22/04/2025 17:15

CloudCustard · 22/04/2025 11:17

I wouldn’t leave my child to go on holiday for a week in all honestly.

Don’t then.

BashfulClam · 22/04/2025 17:14

CloudCustard · 22/04/2025 11:17

I wouldn’t leave my child to go on holiday for a week in all honestly.

Well this isn’t about you so who cares!

couchparsnip · 22/04/2025 17:14

IButtleSir · 22/04/2025 16:56

It's not nonsensical; it's just something you disagree with.

And yes, I don't think it's in a child's best interests to have parents who work in a job that takes them away from their young children for long periods of time, whatever that job is. You are free to disagree without being accused of being nonsensical.

So all the children of people in the armed services or in the foreign office or whatever other job that takes them away - all of them are damaging their children? Don't talk nonsense.

And in any case - one week is not 'long periods of time'. It's one short period of time. An 11 year has the capacity to understand.

mamajong · 22/04/2025 17:12

IButtleSir · 22/04/2025 16:56

It's not nonsensical; it's just something you disagree with.

And yes, I don't think it's in a child's best interests to have parents who work in a job that takes them away from their young children for long periods of time, whatever that job is. You are free to disagree without being accused of being nonsensical.

Sorry but it is nonsensical to suggest that a parent going away for a week will cause mh issues, you cannot say this without knowing all the details and every child is different.

Agreeing to disagree is one thing but making outlandish claims is nonsensical and unhelpful (in my opinion 😉)

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