Abusing the airline staff

According to GOV UK they could have been removed from the plane.

@MichaelandKirk you're not wrong, they are scum and a literal waste of oxygen.

Our dog was OK. They punched it and gave it a few kicks and then locked it in a room with a Mars bar they had. Why didn’t they just throw the chocolate bar in the room. Why the punches and kicks? Totally feral.

@MichaelandKirk I have to know, was your dog okay? How awful 😢

Nor me. Mind you, the time I flew business on Air France, which had in a deeply French way failed to register my request for a vegetarian meal, and the apologetic cabin crew gave me a couple of apples and bread rolls and an entire bottle of champagne, I also didn’t start fights or puke in the aisle.

I generally get given a glass of champagne on the plane no matter what time of day. Doesn't turn me into a badly behaved oaf

They just shrugged

What the actual.........Who behaves like this, FFS.

@RumNotRun

I don't even know if it is possible to get someone banned from all airlines

I'm a bit out of the loop nowadays but I"ve never heard of any mechanism that would allow that.

The International Air Transport Association (IATA) have floated the idea on occasions in the context of passenger misbehaviour but I don't think it has ever gone beyond a discussion item.

She sure didn't sound sober though.

That happened to me. I spent a whole day prepping Sunday lunch for a couple I'd invited over. Then the morning cooking it.
They never showed up and their phones were switched off.
I ran into them some time later and asked why they didn't show up. They just shrugged. I certainly didn't bother to contact them again. People have the manners of pigs these days.

I remember being on a Virgin Atlantic flight to Jamaica years ago, 2007 I think, when someone was smoking in the toilets. The pilot made an announcement that if they found out who was doing it then the person would be arrested on arrival, possibly put in jail, and banned from all airlines so have to find another way home. 😳 I don't even know if it is possible to get someone banned from all airlines but the threat seemed to work cause there were no more reports of smoking in the toilets.

Believe me, you can get obnoxious behaviour in Business Class as well.

Sorry, this wasn't an invitation to brag. It was a scheduled flight, Manchester to London, not a charter to Ayia Napa. Nice swerve of the question though.

Sure. If something happens which is outside of their reasonable control, like repairs meaning that a different aircraft is suddenly needed for a particular route, then that’s one thing. I see that as being like Argos being let down by their suppliers. If there are no aircraft changes, then it’s different and that’s the airline’s fault and they should deliver what they contracted to deliver.

but airlines (should) know exactly how many of each seat they have on their planes.

That's an it depends.

A few airlines run just one varient of one type.

OTOH some airlines have multiple type, and then sometimes several varients within a type.

Type/varient to be used on a route is usually decided weeks/months before date of flight but just sometimes if e.g. an aircraft breaks you can get a type/varient change at the last minute which can stuff up the seating plan.

I’ve never had money taken by Amazon until my stuff was on its way. But anyway, I suppose I see that as different from not getting your prebooked airline seat. If you order a washing machine from Argos and they can’t fulfill your order, you can buy one from somewhere else. Whereas if you prebook a window seat with extra leg room, and you end up stuck in a middle seat with no legroom, you can hardly get off and just go to another airline going the same way. And Argos are reliant on other people to supply their products, but airlines (should) know exactly how many of each seat they have on their planes and how many are available.

Why so hostile? It’s this level of impatience and tendency to look for an argument at the slightest thing which makes conflict so much more common.

Unless I’ve missed it, at no point has this poster #BeenKind. They’ve literally just said they can understand some of the frustration of air travel.

I’ve had money taken by Amazon and then refunded as an item was no longer available due to “supply issues”. Likewise with John Lewis and Argos.

Is this not different from those situations in that the airline has already taken your money?

Amazon don’t take your money until the item is dispatched. And the shop window item is an invitation to treat. If you then offer to buy it, a contract is formed when they accept your offer (and money).

I'm old enough to remember when it was really special.
You dressed up in Sunday best.
You were served proper meals
And everyone behaved

If they are on the ground they can just ask the dispatcher to get rid of them, but it can make the flight late because of getting the bags off so a lot are reluctant to do it. If they are in the air, they can just tell the airline about the poor behaviour later or if it’s serious, have the police meet them when they land and get them taken off.

It’s funny because in a lot of cases a dressing down in front of the rest of the passengers can work very well. DH had a proper bellend last week who was smoking when he was crossing the tarmac to board. Thought no one saw him and when DH challenged him, he got really shitty and denied it. Then when he was threatened with being thrown off the flight and his kids started crying he backed down. His wife was absolutely mortified!

In law it’s the same as if you see something in a shop window advertised with a price. The shop are not compelled to sell it to you.

Likewise, if you buy something on Amazon which later on turns out to be out of stock, you get a refund, not compensation.

Was it an Aer Lingus Regional flight 😁I commute regularly to Dublin and its my favourite experience as you say the seasoned London Dublin commuters take no prisoners