Brother texts greetings in Welsh

By the 'British' - so Welsh people aren't British then..?

Government website - you mean UKG? There's a Welsh Government website too.

See all the comments I have made are at the root of this issue.

Agree it should not be considered a foreign language by the British.
Its been 5 decades since this term was first challenged in Parliament and that needs to change.

It is still listed as a foreign language on the Goverment website alongside French etc.

I'm English living in Wales - have tried a few times to learn welsh - kids have a bit via school - have welsh languge GCSE or sitting currently. I've picked up welsh greeting and such as they are common even in english speaking population.

We do this with cards and presents not so much texts or whatsapp - though tend to do welsh/English cards and occaionally welsh themed presents - like welsh whisky or goods.

I'n unaware of causing any offence to English family members. It's trying to reflect back a bit of the culture of the area we're in or specialness of area - did similar in parts of England like yorkshire when we lived there.

Texts do feel a bit odder - but the huge offence taken is also odd.

But it doesn't make any sense. You can't say - I like Wales, it's a lovely country, Welsh people are nice, they can have their language. Blah, blah, blah... But then infer that only Welsh people should speak Welsh?

She can support her brother's life or not and if she feels so strongly about him embracing another language then she needs to look at that. She is not supporting him and using language as a way to make an example of that. I think it's sad and unfair.

Maybe she might like to consider supporting him in helping restore a language that came near to being wiped out by disgusting attitudes towards the Welsh from the other side of the bridge? Wild idea huh?

And the bloody irony of English people finding Welsh somehow offensive. Ffycin idiots. Guess most people can understand that without the need for translation...

No, thanks.

There are early English chronicles listing repeated slaughter of the Welsh.

People in the UK need to recognise the four nations. Not England and three colonies.

Learn some Welsh.

OP has made her point. It’s the whole point of the thread

My brother is also English. He lives in Wales. He send some greetings in Welsh. He speaks Welsh. His wife is a Welsh first language speaker, as is his bi-lingual son. I often send greetings in Welsh to my best friends husband - he's Welsh and can't speak it. OP - do you have a point?

@MsTamborineMan
i doubt many people living in England know a word of Welsh

I know Heddlu but only because I needed the Heddlu when I couldn’t find a garage to fix my cars front bumper when I was in Aberystwyth and I only know it because it was written all over their car.

Why would people in England be required or expected to know Welsh?

This 'problem' sounds like the Daily Fail going on about 'Cancelled Christmas'.
Have a bit of curiosity and respect for other cultures.

Also people comparing Welsh to a 'foreign language' on here... wee woo! Amazing.

I mean not quite the same as mandarin is it though?

And yes I do think its rude to not make an effort to understand basic phrases of a language used within your own country, especially in a place you3 brother lives. I'm not expecting anyone to be fluent but understanding "hello" "happy birthday" "happy christmas", is fairly easy especially as, unlike other languages, Welsh is almost always accompanied by an English translation.

It's not foreign. These are the people here longest.

Oh give over! Only if you’re living in that country.

There’s no need to learn it otherwise, only if you want to.

I speak as someone who speaks 5 languages!

Why don't you think it's nice that he is trying to use the language of the place he has chosen to live in? It doesn't take anything away from you.

Welsh is a native language of britain, a country the OP lives in. I think it's pretty rude to not understand very basic phrases of a language used within your own country

But it’s not just at Easter, so there will be times that OP has no bloody clue what he’s on about.

When I lived in Spain I said happy christmas in Spanish to my relatives in England.

Feliz navidad!

They liked it!

Yes, actually this is a thing here in Wales, now I've thought about how often I do it! I regularly say good morning/night, love you, thank you in Welsh when the rest of the convo is in English. And of course we don't cuddle, we "cwtch". Everyone cwtches in Wales, Welsh speaking or not 😊
So I've now decided OPs brother is maybe just trying to embrace the language, which is quite sweet. But I still think it would get on my nerves a bit eventually if it's every single bloody time.

No, it’s nice to say to the someone LIVING in China. So if OP lived in Wales, it would be nice if he texted it to her.

The dirty meaning didn't even occur to me.

Yes, when YOU lived in Spain, YOU spoke in Spanish.

Your relatives in your home country didn’t suddenly start speaking Spanish because you do.

So what if the signs are in Welsh in Wales? OP doesn’t see them!

Same. I'm constantly baffled by these people that have these strictly regimented relationships with their siblings.

If my brother did this I'd send him a meme about being found in a bin not Wales or something

If she has to use a translation website to figure out what her brother's reply to Happy Easter might be, she has big problems. Especially when one of the words is very similar to the English word happy...

Oh behave 🤣 need to translate?!

He'd say it in mandarin if he lived in China because they speak fucking Mandarin in China and it would be nice to reflect that 🤣

Some people need help, honestly