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To think this is cruel on the children?

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Phillipconnarthy · 21/04/2025 20:31

I know it's not my business, my children etc. But I'm just sharing an opinion.

A friend has two children, a boy aged 5 and a girl aged 9. Every summer, they're shipped off to their grandparents for the majority of the school holidays.
Their grandparents live 300 miles away. Obviously they get updates, facetimes etc. But I think that's pretty cruel, particularly on the 5 year old.

A week or so I could be totally on board with, but nearly 6 weeks? Anyway it's up to them, just wondered what people thought.

OP posts:
Labraradabrador · 21/04/2025 23:03

ChitterChatter1987 · 21/04/2025 22:56

I know annual leave doesn't cover ALL of it, but they surely don't need to send their kids 300 miles away ALL summer....wonder what they do for the other school holidays.

Well if it isn’t ALL summer, then it is a lot of the other holidays that need to be accounted for. It might be easier and more enjoyable for dc to spend 4-6 weeks over the summer than weeks here and there with all of the travel on top.

ExpatMum41 · 21/04/2025 23:00

It is cruel.

Really, do those parents even like their children? Why did they bother having them?

SouthLondonMum22 · 21/04/2025 23:00

ChitterChatter1987 · 21/04/2025 22:56

I know annual leave doesn't cover ALL of it, but they surely don't need to send their kids 300 miles away ALL summer....wonder what they do for the other school holidays.

It isn't all summer. OP says majority, not all.

chateo · 21/04/2025 22:56

Yeah, I think it’s pretty cruel. A couple of weeks maybe but most of the school holidays?! Absolutely not. That’s such a long time to not see your parents. At least with holiday clubs, you’d have the time they’re not working with them. I also couldn’t bear to not see my kids for that long.

Boarding school is cruel too🤷‍♀️

ChitterChatter1987 · 21/04/2025 22:56

Labraradabrador · 21/04/2025 22:43

Will again refer you to the math - school holidays > holiday entitlement.

I know annual leave doesn't cover ALL of it, but they surely don't need to send their kids 300 miles away ALL summer....wonder what they do for the other school holidays.

BIossomtoes · 21/04/2025 22:53

Mine loved spending school holidays with his grandparents. He forgot I existed while he was there.

XelaM · 21/04/2025 22:51

Liz1tummypain · 21/04/2025 20:35

Yep I agree. Really mean on the kids. They're going to have a lot of issues. Unless there's some major factor we're overlooking and I can't think what it could be.

What issues?

I've always sent my daughter to my parents Germany for the holidays. As a single working mum, I didn't have much choice but also my daughter absolutely loves it in Germany. Now that she's a teen she doesn't have much time in the holidays and obviously doesn't have to go as she doesn't need childcare but she asks to go herself (actually just returned form a week's Easter break with my parents).

I don't see anything wrong with it 🤷‍♀️ It's not like she's in Guantanamo - she's with people who love and spoil her.

Crazybaby123 · 21/04/2025 22:50

I'd love this, it's very Enid Blyton.
My kids summer holidays are mostly us working and getting kids into summer camps or them sitting at home while I work from home. We try and manage a week away of we can, but that's only to fill the time as we'd rather go away other times of the years.
If grandparents are providing a fun filled adventurous summer and they get to bond with them then that is lovely. I'd send mine to grandparents if we had any that would be able to do it.

QuaintShaker · 21/04/2025 22:48

I think it depends on the kids and the grandparents, but it's a less-than-ideal situation to have to be in.

Posters justifying it by likening it to boarding school are off the mark, I think. For a start, you cannot legally send a 5 year old to boarding school. 7 is the youngest but, even then, most boarding schools don't accept children younger than 11.

This wasn't something I encountered as a child but, save for that I'd probably miss my friends at times, I could quite happily have been shipped off to my paternal grandparents - my relationship with them was better than with my parents. My maternal grandparents were decent folks but we didn't have the same closeness and I'd have hated being shipped off to them for weeks at a time.

All, in-all, I think "cruel" is a bit strong but it could be damaging to the children, particularly the youngest.

ladyofshertonabbas · 21/04/2025 22:48

I suppose it depends if the grandparents are fun and loving or cold and failing to meet their needs? Grandparents can be more loving than actual parents.

SouthLondonMum22 · 21/04/2025 22:47

ChitterChatter1987 · 21/04/2025 22:32

Employed people get annual leave! And most self employed people can take at least afew weeks off surely.
And even if they did work every day,
why can't the grandparents come down and stay then the parents can still be with the kids evenings and weekends?!
Sounds like an excuse for 6 weeks child free to me! Hence why it's so sad....and what if one was suddenly taken seriously ill 300 miles from home too!

Not enough annual leave to cover all school holidays. They aren't gone for all of the summer holidays, I imagine because that is when some of their annual leave is used.

bringbackthespira · 21/04/2025 22:43

MyUmberSeal · 21/04/2025 20:40

I think it’s rather lovely actually. Used to stay with my grandparents every year for 4 weeks during the summer holidays in Devon and I have such happy memories.

My dad would stick me and my brother on the national express from London Victoria to Bideford , with a panda bottle of pop and some pic n mix. My Grandma would meet us the other end. Happy days.

Yes same for me!
National express coach on my own from around age 10 (long long ago)
every school holiday I spent with my great aunt, I absolutely loved being in the countryside, we would go on walks, to church, spend time gardening, as a town kid it was a whole new world and I looked forward to it so much.
my great aunt passed 2 weeks ago, I’m currently planning her funeral, I hope that she knew how much her time made my childhood special

Labraradabrador · 21/04/2025 22:43

ChitterChatter1987 · 21/04/2025 22:32

Employed people get annual leave! And most self employed people can take at least afew weeks off surely.
And even if they did work every day,
why can't the grandparents come down and stay then the parents can still be with the kids evenings and weekends?!
Sounds like an excuse for 6 weeks child free to me! Hence why it's so sad....and what if one was suddenly taken seriously ill 300 miles from home too!

Will again refer you to the math - school holidays > holiday entitlement.

Isittimeformynapyet · 21/04/2025 22:41

Missey85 · 21/04/2025 20:55

There going to the GPs their not being sent to work in the coal mines! 🤣

Erm, ................... Oh, nothing.

I'm just off to Pedants Corner. Pretend you never saw me.

MumWifeOther · 21/04/2025 22:41

I mean I wouldn’t do it, but it’s probably better than childcare clubs? At least the grandparents love them and im sure they take good care of them.

Labraradabrador · 21/04/2025 22:40

ChitterChatter1987 · 21/04/2025 22:14

Can't believe how many posters think this is okay :-/ actually really sad how many people think 2 young kids spending 6weeks 300 miles from their parents is acceptable.
Grandparents are not the same as parents, and I am assuming if they live 300miles away their relationship with their grandkids isn't THAT close anyway!
Clearly parents who prioritise work over spending time with their children...so sad especially at such young ages where they need their parents most.
Same with Nanny's/au pairs...end up being surrogate parents to the kids even on holidays etc, and think it's really sad 😔

Well when you do the math my dc have about 16-17 weeks of holiday and 2 parents have about 5 weeks of holiday each, meaning 6-7 weeks to fill even if you never take time off together.

if my choice for those 6-7 weeks was holiday club vs. Loving family environment with personalised days out then hands down family. And distance means nothing - My kids are far more than 300 miles from their grandmother, but have an amazingly close relationship even with only visiting once a year. if my mom were a bit younger I would happily leave my dc with her for weeks and they would love it.

WhatYouEgg · 21/04/2025 22:40

I’m a lone (widowed) parent. As such, I’ve had to send my son off more often than I would otherwise have chosen but he enjoys it so much more than childcare holiday camps which he didn’t like at all (apart from Scouts) He’s got aunts and uncles and half-siblings who live hundreds of miles away that we hardly get to see. They are often clamouring to have him stay and he loves going to stay with them too. I miss him dreadfully when he’s not here but not only does it not damage our relationship, it strengthens his relationship with his other family members. He also regularly sleeps over at his Gran’d house if I need to work late.

Morbidly (and pragmatically) I do think/ worry about what could happen to him if I died prematurely. By having strong bonds with other family members too it gives me a reassurance if anything were to happen.

Stravaig · 21/04/2025 22:37

I used to love spending the school holidays with my paternal grandparents. Single working mother, father long gone. I think we had a landline call once a week.

mayorofcasterbridge · 21/04/2025 22:34

Phillipconnarthy · 21/04/2025 20:35

I think it's cruel for young children to not see their parents for 6 weeks?

I'm with you. I wouldn't have done that in a million years.

TrixieFatell · 21/04/2025 22:32

Whilst we didn't go for every holiday, we did go to my grandparents house for a few weeks in the summer holidays without our parents. They are some of my happiest memories, I absolutely loved going to stay with them.

Edited to add my parents were amazing and we were very close. But I loved those holidays so much.

Needmorelego · 21/04/2025 22:32

ChitterChatter1987 · 21/04/2025 22:16

Shouldn't be either though for the majority of the time!

Not if the parents are working. If the parents are working then the children need someone to be looking after them.

ChitterChatter1987 · 21/04/2025 22:32

SouthLondonMum22 · 21/04/2025 22:19

If they have to work then the children have to be somewhere, they might prefer Grandparents over holiday club.

Employed people get annual leave! And most self employed people can take at least afew weeks off surely.
And even if they did work every day,
why can't the grandparents come down and stay then the parents can still be with the kids evenings and weekends?!
Sounds like an excuse for 6 weeks child free to me! Hence why it's so sad....and what if one was suddenly taken seriously ill 300 miles from home too!

NewsdeskJC · 21/04/2025 22:32

If kids are fully bonded with their grandparents why not?

Labraradabrador · 21/04/2025 22:30

Sadly both sets of grandparents too old to take the kids for weeks at a time. My mom definitely did this for my nieces and nephews (unfortunately I am the youngest and had my dc late), and all of them look back very fondly on their long summers with grams. Instead I am looking at residential camps. This summer dc (8) will do a week, but assuming it goes well next year we will book in for 3-4 weeks, including one abroad. I would love to be able to spend the summer with them, but with both parents working it ends up being weeks and weeks of holiday club, which is tedious. Sending them away is the best way of ensuring they have the best summer possible and aren’t just stuck in child care.

ironically in light of the other thread on overnights, we were a family that never had their children spend a night outside the family home until they did a one night residential last summer. I would love a middle ground where we had family who could take them periodically- less for my own benefit and more for theirs as it would mean they were spending more time in a family setting and less time in childcare.

Jollyjoy · 21/04/2025 22:26

It’s not how I would do things. I think children need their parents and agree with you OP it’s too long. But like pps have said, some children are v close to their GPs and if so they may have a great experience.

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