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In-laws always seat me away from my child at dining table

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charcharsydney · 21/04/2025 17:55

I have a two-year-old son. When we visit my In-laws (who are French and live in France), every lunch and dinner (which are full hour long meals) I am seated away from him. Like, other side of the table and down from him (not opposite). My husband will be placed next to him, as well as one of the In-laws, usually my FIL or a SIL.

It's not a "sit where ever you want" situation. There are napkin holders with our names on them, and the in-laws will specifically pick where people sit so there is definitely some kind of thought process behind the seating arrangements. NFI what that is though.

It's always slightly annoyed me and when I raised it with my husband he brushed it off and told me I can just move places if I want. I have never done so as, with the language and cultural barriers, it seemed easier to let it slide.

However, my son turned two yesterday and there was a family lunch. There were 11 of us and AGAIN I was sat opposite side, towards the other end of the table. I didn't realise how upset it made me until the cake came out and everyone was taking photos and videos and singing to him and and I wasn't there next to him. I got very teary and brushed it off as being emotional for his birthday, but I'm so upset about this and don't know if I'm just being super sensitive.

I don't have any issues with my in laws but it just feels like a micro aggression.

So, AIBU??

OP posts:
Booboobagins · 21/04/2025 18:26

Def move seats, wtf! This isn't cultural it's deliberately separating you from your child and DH, so you're ostracised.

The world seems to be filled with AHs at the moment!

CatherinedeBourgh · 21/04/2025 18:25

Maybe they don't want to be sexist and presume you will be the one caring for your dc? They put your dh there to do the work, he said you could swap if you wanted.

It's hard sometimes to guess what would be right, and if you don't communicate that you prefer something they will carry on doing what they always have, thinking you are OK with it. FWIW, the culture of 'giving the mum a break' when visiting the gps is fairly common in much of France.

soupyspoon · 21/04/2025 18:24

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 21/04/2025 18:15

Well the message is clear...
You are a vessel and not real family.

Yanbu about the situation but Yabu not to say or do anything anything.

On the basis they give Zero fucks about you I'd do whatever I wanted including sitting directly next to my child. Make myour DH Swap seats or just tell MIL to seat you next to your child 🤷🏻‍♀️

Ridiculous. Op has been told that she can swap, she's chosen not to, why?

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 21/04/2025 18:23

You've accepted this for 2 years? Why?
Use your words, take your DHs place, plonk yourself where you want to sit, move your son next to you, so many options!
Learn enough of the language to make your wishes clear, or show them by your actions and leave it to your DH to explain.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 21/04/2025 18:22

Ask your husband to sort it out if its upsetting you. It could be that they are trying to give you a rest!

BIossomtoes · 21/04/2025 18:22

Our dil would love us for ever if we did this.

TheNinny · 21/04/2025 18:21

I read a book about french parenting - bringing up bebe or something similar and they often sit kids at their own table away from parents as they think they get on better/eat without acting up to the parents watching everything. Obv i don’t know the set up but if there are no other young kids, then a kids table is not needed but they may feel kids eat better away from the mums? (who kids tend to act up more towards than dads in my experience 😆) Not that they should be doing that without explaining but there could be a
cultural element to it, though obv they are still placing next to a parent so perhaps not 🤷‍♀️ Is your DH involved with feeding/meals as much as you are?

TeatimeForTheSoul · 21/04/2025 18:21

Be more French and speak up.
Ask your husband how to say ‘No, this doesn’t work for me, DH and I will swap’.

ginasevern · 21/04/2025 18:20

If you are married to someone french, I think it only reasonable that you have a reasonable handle on the language. This surely puts you on the back foot? Is your son being brought up bi-lingual? Could they be trying to give you a break perhaps if you get on with them in every other respect.

2dogsandabudgie · 21/04/2025 18:19

Why did you not ask your husband to take a photo of you and DS with the birthday cake, or asked a family member to take a photo of you, DH and DS with the cake. You can't really complain if you're not going to be assertive.

thepariscrimefiles · 21/04/2025 18:19

You are not being unreasonable. It does seem deliberate for them to seat you as far away from your child as possible and it must have been particularly upsetting during your child's birthday celebration lunch. You and your DH should both have been seated next to your child, or at least directly opposite.

It does sound very formal with named place settings and I can see why you are reluctant to ask to change the place settings around to let you sit next to your son but your DH should be speaking to his parents about this, particularly if there is a language barrier.

Sunshineandpool · 21/04/2025 18:17

I wonder if they are doing it to give you a break? Just swap with your husband if you'd like to sit next to him.

outerspacepotato · 21/04/2025 18:17

"Hi, I'm going to sit next to my son today."

Sit in your seat next to your son. Smile.

Have husband move place card.

And time to learn French.

livelovelough24 · 21/04/2025 18:17

I do not understand why you cannot just say, "I want to sit beside my child"? Its a dinner at your in-laws, not a state visit.

Whyherewego · 21/04/2025 18:16

Hoppinggreen · 21/04/2025 18:04

MIL used to do this when my DD were small but so i could eat my food in peace

This may be their motivation ! Just swap or ask next time. Or offer to lay the table

NotSafeInTaxis · 21/04/2025 18:16

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 21/04/2025 18:15

Well the message is clear...
You are a vessel and not real family.

Yanbu about the situation but Yabu not to say or do anything anything.

On the basis they give Zero fucks about you I'd do whatever I wanted including sitting directly next to my child. Make myour DH Swap seats or just tell MIL to seat you next to your child 🤷🏻‍♀️

Bizarrely paranoid and quite malicious take.

GravyBoatWars · 21/04/2025 18:15

Gatherings in my family are seen as a chance to give the mums of small children a break when possible - even as a teen I was expected to sit and help with the littles so the mums could eat a nice meal with both hands and visit with other adults in peace for once. And people who don't get daily time with the littles are happy to take a turn.

But if a mum wanted to sit by their child they'd just say so. Your husband has already offered to swap your spot and no one has done anything to discourage it. But you've chosen to decline that option, not say anything, and then assume the worst possible motivations from your in-laws? YABU for that part.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 21/04/2025 18:15

Well the message is clear...
You are a vessel and not real family.

Yanbu about the situation but Yabu not to say or do anything anything.

On the basis they give Zero fucks about you I'd do whatever I wanted including sitting directly next to my child. Make myour DH Swap seats or just tell MIL to seat you next to your child 🤷🏻‍♀️

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 21/04/2025 18:15

Learn French for a start, that will make you more confident.

Speak to your husband and ask to swap places with him, he can hardly object - and stand your ground.

RedHelenB · 21/04/2025 18:14

PullTheBricksDown · 21/04/2025 17:59

Yes, say to your husband 'Ah, you're seated next to him again. Swap with me as it's my turn'. Given what he's said he can hardly disagree.

This. As long as he has one parent near him

Somethingsnapped · 21/04/2025 18:14

Yes, just swap with a smile. It's a bit odd they'd seat you so far from him as his age. My in-laws give us set places too, and often I have to swap them around. Mainly because my youngest dc still needs help and encouragement at the table. They always assume this will be me, so sometimes I swap with dh when it's his 'turn'.

Zanatdy · 21/04/2025 18:13

Apart from a birthday, i’d be happy to eat a meal in peace and leave my DH and in-laws to it. Maybe MIL’s motivation is to give you a break.

GRex · 21/04/2025 18:12

I would think it's to give you a break so you can eat in peace. Is something else going on that you're getting tearful about being a few metres away when he gets cake? It seems extreme. Had he recently started full time nursery or something?

soupyspoon · 21/04/2025 18:12

Haven't you asked why? My first thought was as others have said which is that you then get your dinner in peace, is there another reason?

Intheway · 21/04/2025 18:12

ragandbonewoman · 21/04/2025 18:03

Yanbu but bloody hell I’d have loved this. It was always me sat next to DS, cutting his food up, wiping his snotty nose, entertaining him
and getting up to get him another drink while DH got to eat his food while it was still hot and enjoyed the time socialising with the other adults. Be careful what you wish for!

Me too!

Perhaps they think they are giving you a break.

I also wonder if they are creating a situation where he is immersed in the language rather than you translating for him or talking to him in English? Is that a possibility given language spoken?

Brilliant if it is, your DS will be so confidently bilingual!

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