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To abandon the extension?

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Extendorsave · 21/04/2025 17:11

Just after some opinions really as DH and I can't decide what to do and are after some Mumsnet wisdom.
We bought a 1930s semi 2 years ago with the intention of doing an extension. It's a 5 bed semi (2 rooms in the loft) but it needed loads of work. It currently has a small old kitchen and separate dining room, it feels small downstairs. Our plan was to knock through, get a new kitchen and build a utility on the side. We've been quoted about 50-60k for this. We borrowed the money as part of the initial mortgage, planning to do it quicky and have it in a high interest account.
We have 3 kids aged 8, 5 and 2, and planning one more possibly.

As time goes on I feel like we would be better off keeping this money. I imagine all the lovely holidays it would cover, and possibly helping the kids through expensive phases. We are not struggling for money, we can afford a basic holiday every year, but the extra money would mean nicer holidays, maybe extra trips, the ability to not worry about money and buy things we need. Or we could even pay off some of the 380k mortgage!
We also have an additional 30k in savings if that makes a difference, which is our back up money as DH is self employed, so it will remain untouched.

My DH thinks we should do the extension and prioritise making the house nice to live in, I am having doubts as I'm not sure a side utility will make a huge amount of difference to our lives but I do see how much nicer it would be to have an open plan space for having friends over and spending more time together as a family. I don't think it would add much value we there is a ceiling to houses in our road. We might not make it all back if we sold and ideally we don't want to move for a long time.

Anyone had a similar dilemma? What did you do?

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Extendorsave · 21/04/2025 18:33

Floor plan attached!

To abandon the extension?
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YesThatsATurdOnTheRug · 21/04/2025 18:32

We did our kitchen/diner and utility extension and spent more than twice this, don't regret it. 60k would be soon gone on holidays, especially with 6 of you to pay for, and big expensive holidays that three out of four of your kids (I'm including the potential one!) won't remember doesn't match up to more living space in my opinion. Now that we're open plan the kids are constantly in the extension with me, I feel like we hang out so much more.

Onoriafox · 21/04/2025 18:30

5128gap · 21/04/2025 18:04

We made the back reception into a kitchen/diner and then had a big conservatory on the back leading out from it, which made it seem like a big open plan area. The old kitchen became a snug.

I want to do this!

Yellowpingu · 21/04/2025 18:27

In 30+ years of homeownership I’ve only had a utility room for 2 of those years. The house we now live in is our forever house and, whilst it’s bigger and better in every way, we’ve lived here 20 years and I still often wish I had a utility room.

Extendorsave · 21/04/2025 18:27

AFrankExchangeofViews · 21/04/2025 18:03

So the extension bit is only a utility room, no extra living room or extended kitchen? Perhaps you could just knock through and create the open plan kitchen/dining, that would cost a lot less than an extension. I actually dont see you how you can achieve all that, knock though, new kitchen and an extension, for the price you are quoting anyway.

We would love to extend out the back but we are on a hill so it would be very very expensive, and we would lose some garden (which isn't huge).
The side extension wouldnt be huge so that's probably why he said we could do it for 60k. It would basically take away our side access and turn it into a utility that you could walk through instead, if that makes sense.

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KatyaKat · 21/04/2025 18:27

Energe · 21/04/2025 18:07

Holidays aren’t a fritter. Mine genuinely make my life better. DCs love them too.

Yes, but you don't borrow against your house to have them, that is plain stupid

Extendorsave · 21/04/2025 18:23

FlyingPandas · 21/04/2025 18:11

Do the extension. Yes, holidays are lovely, but you live in your house all the time.

And your DC are so little. At the risk of stating the absolutely obvious, don't underestimate how much bigger they're going to get, and how much more you will value having more comfortable, practical living space when they are teens/young adults.

This is helpful thank you, it's hard to imagine them as big teens at the moment. They are all boys too and I'm starting to see how useful a utility might be with all the filthy football kit!

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Question285 · 21/04/2025 18:22

You should definitely not spend this amount of borrowed money on holidays and trivial stuff.

You spend most of your time in this house, it has to work for your family. How do you feel about being in a small kitchen on your own while the rest of the family is in a different room? Do you like cooking together with the kids? Is that possible in the current kitchen? Do you need to be able to keep an eye on the younger children while cooking? Do you have enough space for all 5 (or maybe soon to be 6) of you to have a sit down meal?

How many loads of laundry do you do per week? Do you have space/need a dryer? If you didn’t build the utility but knocked through the kitchen/diner, would the washing machine noise bother you while having a meal for example? Do you have other storage space in the house for your hoover, ironing board, tools, mop and bucket or whatever else usually goes in a utility room?

Imagine how you’d like family life to be in this house. Then make the changes that facilitate that.

Jabberwok · 21/04/2025 18:22

I worked for years in insurance so I always look for a worst case scenario.
Plus we had a double story extension built 7 years ago giving us 4 beds, 3 bathrooms, a huge kitchen diner utility.

You say you don't want to commit to the house long term but consider:
One of you gets ill and can't work...3 kids in a small house
As above, a downstairs shower room huge difference
You come to sell but there is a fall in market value, you may not have experienced it but it happens...and you can't sell
The money you have borrowed is spent on holidays...that you are paying interest on...interest rates jump to 6,7 or even 16% as they were when I first bought...You are paying interest on memories.

You have a higher debt than you need. It's never ever advisable to be in debt.

Extendorsave · 21/04/2025 18:20

Bubblesgun · 21/04/2025 17:44

I cant believe the lack of financial knowledge. This isnt money you own you know you borrowed it on a mortgage you cannot soend it as if this is your savings and can see ypu through to the kids growing up. It s way to expensive.

to go in holidays you spend money you have, or like my sister you use your credit card to oay in advance but you can pay your card fully wvery month - she does that for cash flow management, we dont.

but you do not spend borrowed money on a mortgage.

so your only options are to do the extension or repay the money. Think about your future instead of spending miney you do not have

Can I ask why this is so bad financially? The interest on the savings is equal to the interest on the loan so it's not like we are losing money by not paying it back?
And I've said I'm not sure the extension will add an equal amount of value to the house.
Genuinely wondering as I don't think I'm being that ridiculous with my ideas, but happy to be corrected!

I'm starting to agree with people that maybe it's not sensible to blow it all on trips/luxuries, but equally I'd love my kids to have lots of opportunities and I wonder whether that holds a higher value than extra living space.
I suppose we could pay it back which would lower the mortgage each month but that way it would probably just get spent anyway.
I find it very hard to commit to an extension, I don't know why, just feels so much money in one go.

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FlyingPandas · 21/04/2025 18:11

Do the extension. Yes, holidays are lovely, but you live in your house all the time.

And your DC are so little. At the risk of stating the absolutely obvious, don't underestimate how much bigger they're going to get, and how much more you will value having more comfortable, practical living space when they are teens/young adults.

HairyToity · 21/04/2025 18:09

I'd personally do the extension, or reduce mortgage by 60k.

Energe · 21/04/2025 18:07

Holidays aren’t a fritter. Mine genuinely make my life better. DCs love them too.

neilyoungismyhero · 21/04/2025 18:04

We did a huge extension back in the day and the property market bombed. We didn't give a toss, the added space and beautiful new house we had built was awesome.
Eighteen years later when our family had grown up and left home we sold it for a LOT of money and downsized. Never once regretted that extension. Listen to your husband he's right.

5128gap · 21/04/2025 18:04

We made the back reception into a kitchen/diner and then had a big conservatory on the back leading out from it, which made it seem like a big open plan area. The old kitchen became a snug.

AFrankExchangeofViews · 21/04/2025 18:03

So the extension bit is only a utility room, no extra living room or extended kitchen? Perhaps you could just knock through and create the open plan kitchen/dining, that would cost a lot less than an extension. I actually dont see you how you can achieve all that, knock though, new kitchen and an extension, for the price you are quoting anyway.

MeganM3 · 21/04/2025 18:03

With 3 or even 4 kids the extension sounds sensible. And I do understand what you’re saying about the ceiling price of your property, but it will be much more sell-able with a large, useful space like this. You won’t lose the money.

Bellyblueboy · 21/04/2025 18:02

I moved house a few years ago and spent £120k on a kitchen extension, side extension for a utility room new bathroom, en-suite and some other general updates on the house.

this was funded through a mixture of savings, and the mortgage.

i sometimes think I could have lively holidays if I didn’t have that extra payment on the mortgage. But my house is beautiful- it’s everything I wanted. I enjoy it every day.

I have also added about £200k to the value of my house.

now to rebuild the savings 😂

Hoppinggreen · 21/04/2025 18:01

As someone who has had teens an extra lounge should not be underestimated - unless you want to get sent to bed to watch TV

SalfordQuays · 21/04/2025 17:59

Could you scale down the extension plans a bit, so it wasn’t as expensive?
I think a large kitchen-dining area would be great. I regret not doing it myself, but my kids 16 and 19 now, and it’s not worth the upheaval when they’re likely to be leaving home in the next 5 years. Plus I don’t have the spare cash. But if I had my time again I’d knock through for sure.

Strawberryjammam · 21/04/2025 17:57

What's your household income like? Unclear whether this is a lot of money for you or not.

Needlesnah · 21/04/2025 17:57

Isittimeformynapyet · 21/04/2025 17:50

Do you really think cramped, lonely kitchens with doors to negotiate while carrying heavy, hot things will come back into fashion? I'm sure some people prefer them, but I'd be surprised.

I have to agree. I personally like a certain amount of rooms I can close off however an open plan kitchen/diner always works a lot better. Buyers (and I) hate closed off pokey kitchens.

Isittimeformynapyet · 21/04/2025 17:54

Bubblesgun · 21/04/2025 17:44

I cant believe the lack of financial knowledge. This isnt money you own you know you borrowed it on a mortgage you cannot soend it as if this is your savings and can see ypu through to the kids growing up. It s way to expensive.

to go in holidays you spend money you have, or like my sister you use your credit card to oay in advance but you can pay your card fully wvery month - she does that for cash flow management, we dont.

but you do not spend borrowed money on a mortgage.

so your only options are to do the extension or repay the money. Think about your future instead of spending miney you do not have

Thanks for quoting the OP @Bubblesgun. I'm sure I'm not the only one who had simply no idea what this thread was about.

Isittimeformynapyet · 21/04/2025 17:50

Zeitumschaltung · 21/04/2025 17:34

I would add the utility room but wouldn’t knock the rooms together as I suspect this trend will change. Are there any other changes you could make that would increase the space you have for less money than originally planned?

Do you really think cramped, lonely kitchens with doors to negotiate while carrying heavy, hot things will come back into fashion? I'm sure some people prefer them, but I'd be surprised.

Bubblesgun · 21/04/2025 17:44

Extendorsave · 21/04/2025 17:11

Just after some opinions really as DH and I can't decide what to do and are after some Mumsnet wisdom.
We bought a 1930s semi 2 years ago with the intention of doing an extension. It's a 5 bed semi (2 rooms in the loft) but it needed loads of work. It currently has a small old kitchen and separate dining room, it feels small downstairs. Our plan was to knock through, get a new kitchen and build a utility on the side. We've been quoted about 50-60k for this. We borrowed the money as part of the initial mortgage, planning to do it quicky and have it in a high interest account.
We have 3 kids aged 8, 5 and 2, and planning one more possibly.

As time goes on I feel like we would be better off keeping this money. I imagine all the lovely holidays it would cover, and possibly helping the kids through expensive phases. We are not struggling for money, we can afford a basic holiday every year, but the extra money would mean nicer holidays, maybe extra trips, the ability to not worry about money and buy things we need. Or we could even pay off some of the 380k mortgage!
We also have an additional 30k in savings if that makes a difference, which is our back up money as DH is self employed, so it will remain untouched.

My DH thinks we should do the extension and prioritise making the house nice to live in, I am having doubts as I'm not sure a side utility will make a huge amount of difference to our lives but I do see how much nicer it would be to have an open plan space for having friends over and spending more time together as a family. I don't think it would add much value we there is a ceiling to houses in our road. We might not make it all back if we sold and ideally we don't want to move for a long time.

Anyone had a similar dilemma? What did you do?

I cant believe the lack of financial knowledge. This isnt money you own you know you borrowed it on a mortgage you cannot soend it as if this is your savings and can see ypu through to the kids growing up. It s way to expensive.

to go in holidays you spend money you have, or like my sister you use your credit card to oay in advance but you can pay your card fully wvery month - she does that for cash flow management, we dont.

but you do not spend borrowed money on a mortgage.

so your only options are to do the extension or repay the money. Think about your future instead of spending miney you do not have

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