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Dig licking plates before going into dishwasher - ick or not

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Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 21/04/2025 15:11

Have have hosted a lovely Easter BH Monday for all 7 GC, 3 step children, partners & children. We had an Easter egg hunt in garden, had breakfast in local farm shop & walked my lovely little dog around, petted animals etc.

For context I need to say that DSS & DIL are both British, but live in USA.

After a roast dinner I put the plates & general pots & pans down for the dog to lick. My DIL lost the plot saying that was so unhygienic I assured her that they would be going into the dishwasher on a high temperature - about 90c so would be sterilised. I always let the dog pre-wash my plates as consider it's going into the dishwasher at high temp to be sterilised so no problem.

DIL saying she will never let her children eat at my house again & gone-taken her DH & DC off in an huff.

DH has had a text from his son apologising but saying what can he do as has to support his wife. I totally get that. But....

My question is - is it OK to let dog lick out the plates etc when they are going into dishwasher at a high temp? WWUD?

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Iammatrix · 21/04/2025 21:22

Smallmercies · 21/04/2025 21:13

"Granny always [insert gross practice]" is not the endorsement you seem to think it is!

I love my DGD so much and if I let the dog, who she also loves, lick the plates she would never
eat at my house again and she loves Grandma’s cooking.

Bonniethetiler · 21/04/2025 21:20

Smallmercies · 21/04/2025 21:13

"Granny always [insert gross practice]" is not the endorsement you seem to think it is!

This reminds me of a birthday party I attended as a child in the 1980s. A boy was wailing because his hot dog came with ketchup and I watched as one of the mums did an "oh dear, don't worry", took the hot dog off him, licked off the ketchup, and gave it him back. He never flinched. I don't recall him dying either, at least not on that day. Mind you, I recall also watching the father of birthday girl attaching the flex of the record player to the wall socket by wrapping the wires around the plug from a table lamp, as the record player was missing one. And all this in a room full of cigarette smoke. I miss those carefree days!

Psychologymam · 21/04/2025 21:20

Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 21/04/2025 21:04

I do this, as onions, stuffing & other things not good for dogs.

I maintain that there is no problem with allowing my dog to lick the dishes from residual gravy etc & then putting them in the dishwasher on a high temp.

My mistake was allowing Step Grandchildren who don't normally stay with us (as live abroad & have maids who pack dishwasher etc & rather a new experience for them) were accompanying step GC who often stay & regard packing the dishwasher as their contribution to the meal. It was the GC who normally spend time with us who said 'Oh - <dog name> usually licks the dishes before Granny puts them in the dishwasher', Scraped the residue into the food caddy (to be collected & composted) & put the plates down for the dog to lick That's what they do at my house as well at home-they have a dog & a mother who's a senior nurse in the local hospital.

But DIL blew her top.

I make no apologies - my GC are very healthy & I maintain that my dishes are totally safe for them to eat from. There is a lot of evidence that children brought up in a house with pets are less likely to develop allergies.

if you’re happy to do it, knock yourself out! But please don’t kid yourself that those studies where dogs were in the home is equal to dogs sharing plates - I know those studies and plates were not a factor! You sound a little defensive - (I know nurses who smoke so being a nurse doesn’t mean you’ll do everything correctly health wise and whether the other kids have cleaners in house really isn’t the issue). What’s your end goal? Your DIL sounds a bit dramatic but you can either do battle over this or say we won’t do this for your kids any more, can we leave it to one side and continue visits? I imagine it’s more important to see GC than be right about the dogs and plates?
No one could get me to agree to share a plate with the dog (although I wouldn’t be rude and storm out) and DIL sounds the same, so you won’t convince her to agree with you, but maybe you can come to an understanding where views are respected and each to their own?

UndermyShoeJoe · 21/04/2025 21:20

Smallmercies · 21/04/2025 21:16

vom

But it what granny does. Humph

Iammatrix · 21/04/2025 21:17

UndermyShoeJoe · 21/04/2025 21:16

Yeah granny always picks it licks it then flicks it. 😆

This so funny!

Smallmercies · 21/04/2025 21:16

UndermyShoeJoe · 21/04/2025 21:16

Yeah granny always picks it licks it then flicks it. 😆

vom

UndermyShoeJoe · 21/04/2025 21:16

Smallmercies · 21/04/2025 21:13

"Granny always [insert gross practice]" is not the endorsement you seem to think it is!

Yeah granny always picks it licks it then flicks it. 😆

Smallmercies · 21/04/2025 21:13

"Granny always [insert gross practice]" is not the endorsement you seem to think it is!

Smallmercies · 21/04/2025 21:12

... not to mention it's teaching your grandchildren to live in squalor. Blecchh.

Smallmercies · 21/04/2025 21:11

Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 21/04/2025 21:04

I do this, as onions, stuffing & other things not good for dogs.

I maintain that there is no problem with allowing my dog to lick the dishes from residual gravy etc & then putting them in the dishwasher on a high temp.

My mistake was allowing Step Grandchildren who don't normally stay with us (as live abroad & have maids who pack dishwasher etc & rather a new experience for them) were accompanying step GC who often stay & regard packing the dishwasher as their contribution to the meal. It was the GC who normally spend time with us who said 'Oh - <dog name> usually licks the dishes before Granny puts them in the dishwasher', Scraped the residue into the food caddy (to be collected & composted) & put the plates down for the dog to lick That's what they do at my house as well at home-they have a dog & a mother who's a senior nurse in the local hospital.

But DIL blew her top.

I make no apologies - my GC are very healthy & I maintain that my dishes are totally safe for them to eat from. There is a lot of evidence that children brought up in a house with pets are less likely to develop allergies.

And the majority on here maintain that's it's gross and you shouldn't do it in front of visitors!

Bonniethetiler · 21/04/2025 21:10

Puttinginthemiles · 21/04/2025 21:01

A hot wash at 90 doesn't kill any germs though, that's just not true. And domestic dishwashers don't run at 90 anyway.

If you are talking about 90F then I agree.

If you are talking about 90C then we're all doomed.

UndermyShoeJoe · 21/04/2025 21:09

There’s living with pets and sharing your plates with pets 😅

Iammatrix · 21/04/2025 21:07

I’m reading this thread and I’m going ‘ergh, ergh,ergh’ and a few ‘yuks’!

Happyspendingthedayinthegarden · 21/04/2025 21:04

Psychologymam · 21/04/2025 18:26

but why wouldn’t you just scrape the food into the dogs bowl? It’s fine if you’re happy to share with your dog, but lots of people aren’t! Honestly, I’m relatively relaxed and it would make me never eat in that house again. I wouldn’t be rude or say anything, but I’d definitely have dinner before visiting next time 🤣🤣
It’s like wet dog smell or cigarette smoke, if you do it yourself you don’t notice and think what’s the issue, but it’s horrible if it’s not yours!!

I do this, as onions, stuffing & other things not good for dogs.

I maintain that there is no problem with allowing my dog to lick the dishes from residual gravy etc & then putting them in the dishwasher on a high temp.

My mistake was allowing Step Grandchildren who don't normally stay with us (as live abroad & have maids who pack dishwasher etc & rather a new experience for them) were accompanying step GC who often stay & regard packing the dishwasher as their contribution to the meal. It was the GC who normally spend time with us who said 'Oh - <dog name> usually licks the dishes before Granny puts them in the dishwasher', Scraped the residue into the food caddy (to be collected & composted) & put the plates down for the dog to lick That's what they do at my house as well at home-they have a dog & a mother who's a senior nurse in the local hospital.

But DIL blew her top.

I make no apologies - my GC are very healthy & I maintain that my dishes are totally safe for them to eat from. There is a lot of evidence that children brought up in a house with pets are less likely to develop allergies.

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Puttinginthemiles · 21/04/2025 21:01

Iammatrix · 21/04/2025 16:26

Let’s put hygiene aside, because everyone understands that a hot wash at 90°C will kill any germs.

I question the ethics of doing such a thing. I personally do not think it is right and would never have thought that it was a thing people do.
Wow, you learn something everyday!

I love my dog and he loves his food and is well fed. My dog is also greedy and an open dishwasher in the process of being loaded is beyond temptation for him. But I tell him firmly ‘leave it’ and off he goes and sits watching me load the dishwasher, longingly. Poor boy! But it’s not going to happen in my house and my dog is none the worse for it.

A hot wash at 90 doesn't kill any germs though, that's just not true. And domestic dishwashers don't run at 90 anyway.

Fabulousagain · 21/04/2025 20:13

😷

Ilovemyshed · 21/04/2025 20:10

Gross.

UndermyShoeJoe · 21/04/2025 20:03

Bonniethetiler · 21/04/2025 19:57

There was a woman on How Clean is Your House? who put all sorts of horse paraphernalia into her her dishwasher...Kim Woodburn looked like she was going to have heart failure when she saw it.

There was a c4 documentary I think it was on erm paid for ladies. And they washed toys in the dishy.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 21/04/2025 19:57

🤮🤮

Bonniethetiler · 21/04/2025 19:57

Bunchymcbunchface · 21/04/2025 19:47

Phahaha is this the right thread to announce that (some) horsey ladies wash their horses bits - that’s the metal part of a bridle that goes in the horses mouth ……in the dishwasher too.

There was a woman on How Clean is Your House? who put all sorts of horse paraphernalia into her her dishwasher...Kim Woodburn looked like she was going to have heart failure when she saw it.

Kellybonita · 21/04/2025 19:56

I won't even share cutlery or a cup with my brother and parents.

I keep my own cutlery and separate cup.

My brother is not very hygienic!

Bonniethetiler · 21/04/2025 19:56

Tryingtokeepgoing · 21/04/2025 19:31

Has anyone pointed out that most standard dishwashers don’t have a 90 degree (C) wash cycle…? Though they might reach near that in the rinse / dry cycle So these dishes could only have been washed at 60 degrees 🤮

Yes, I did, several times. My dishwasher washers at 70'C on "intensive", but I was just reading on the Finish website that all domestic dishwashers should reach around 82'C on the final rinse on any cycle, to make the contents "safe" [sic].

I also pointed out that the harsh detergents and vigorous cleaning action of the dishwasher also goes a very long way to loosening and removing pathogens too - it's not just the temperature that does the work, the very act of washing crap away (like when hand-washing dishes) is all part of the process.

Glitchymn1 · 21/04/2025 19:54

ZepherinDrouhin · 21/04/2025 15:35

If you know how your dog cleans her bits then why are you letting her lick your crockery?

Plenty of humans engage in this too 😁

Bunchymcbunchface · 21/04/2025 19:47

Phahaha is this the right thread to announce that (some) horsey ladies wash their horses bits - that’s the metal part of a bridle that goes in the horses mouth ……in the dishwasher too.

Goldengirl123 · 21/04/2025 19:45

That’s disgusting

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