The pope has died

The next Pope should be female - that ain't gonna happen.

Is this enough of a safe space to suggest that the next pope should be female?

The trouble with selling off the paintings and statues is you cam only do it once. As Mrs Thatcher discovered with privatisation. Whereas if you still have it you can borrow against it , presumably? In one sense, if things are priceless they are essentially worthless.
But back on topic ....the nerve of the Argentine President to show up. He who called Francis ' a son of a butch ' and a ' Communist '.

I’d prefer subtitles too. A light comment but I hope people remembered suncream.

Watching the funeral. Not sure I liked the “translation”. I would have liked to hear the Latin and presumably most Catholics will know what’s being said at that moment. I think it would have been better to have had subtitles.

Just realised I’ve missed out church’s requiem mass which was last night.

If you go on Sky News Live the stream is often 8 hours long so you might be able to wind back and watch the funeral if you're at home during that time window.
I'll be watching it tomorrow morning.

I’m on nights so can’t watch the funeral or attend vespers or the requiem mass in my cathedral. Which is also my parish church. I’m really sad that I’ll miss it all. Had I known I’d have gone up to Liverpool for theirs last Tuesday. As I would like to attend something.

One of our priests now has better Irish than many of us, though his heavily Indian-accented English takes some concentration. Between prayers and hymns we usually have mostly English but a bit of Irish, a bit of Latin, a bit of Greek - which is lovely.

I think Pope John Paul II could speak even more, 12 I think.
Pope Benedict XVI also spoke several, though I'm not sure how many.

And all of them would have known Latin, Hebrew and Biblical Greek.

I think once you have studied those languages and a couple of foreign languages it becomes easier just to keep adding more because you have the knowledge of how to learn effectively, grammatical structures, roots of words etc.

I know a priest who arrived in the country I am living in with no knowledge of the language but fluent in 5 other languages. Within 3 weeks he could hold a conversation in the new language and within 2 months he was completely fluent and preaching.

Interesting fact. The pope spoke or was conversant in seven languages

I’ll be watching. Might have to be doing some pre-guest cleaning at the same time though.

I don't watch funerals on tv, and only ever watched live streamed ones when Covid restrictions prevented my attending (each for people I have known since childhood).

I think that the next Pope should come from a developing country so his words will carry more weight on social justice issues, and given where the increase in vocations are. Cardinal Tagle would achieve this, and God willing be a Pope for many years.

Listening to the news on RTE - Irish national radio station - and a priest in Gaza, I think he was Italian, was interviewed. He said every night, before his most recent illness, Pope Francis called them (the community ) to see how they were. The last call they had from him was 2 days before he died. ❤️
He was special.

Ah, I've just googled and a name comes up towards the top of the google search and that name is also being touted as a potential pope.

I really don't think they will vote for him.

Who is the cardinal who has several charges of sexual assault and misconduct who could potentially be elected as pope? I don't mean the character in Conclave, I mean among the current papabili.

In the BBC article someone linked to above I read this about one of the candidates:

"But in 2021 he offered to resign over serious mistakes in tackling child sexual abuse in Germany's Catholic Church. That resignation was rejected by Francis."

I really hope that this excludes him completely and that none of the cardinals will vote for him. Francis should have accepted his resignation.

I sincerely hope the cardinals have all watched Conclave and don't consider electing the cardinal with several charges of sexual assault and misconduct.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgxk40ndk1o.amp

Possible new popes.

I heard him there. I’ve liked him ever since. Hoping for him!

There’s nothing quite like that very particular sound that the Vatican choir makes is there? It makes me feel teary too.

There have been this massive “listening sessions” or “consultations” or whatever we are calling them. I think change must come from there. Tagle has said we need to make change, we live in a modern world.

i just don’t want some Conservative

I’ll try to watch some but am out which is a shame. I might ask dh to go instead.

I heard some singing on the radio from the Vatican it was so beautiful it made me teary.

So many must travelling there, I know someone who wanted to fly long haul to go but it’s probably near impossible to get accommodation.

I suspect Tagle is too young to be elected.

I see he's committed to synodality, which is good, but opposed to change wrt contraception, which is not. Though synodality will eventually force a bit on honesty on that one. 🐙 🇻🇦

Tagle was at the Flame convention in London a couple of years ago, he was a great speaker, was lovely to our young people and Teachers (they all have a photo with him, which could be a collectors item!)

I also like that he’s on the progressive side, and seems more likely to carry on Pope Francis’s work.