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Emoleno · 21/04/2025 09:50

He was incredibly powerful, but chose to protect child abusers. He was complicit in the abuse of children on an unprecedented scale. Good riddance.

Lampzade · 21/04/2025 09:50

Saddened by his death as he seemed to be a decent person

SpottedDonkey · 21/04/2025 09:50

If anyone still hasn’t seen Conclave, this would be a good time to watch it. It’s an excellent film with great performances by Ralph Feinnes & Stanley Tucci.

Lampzade · 21/04/2025 09:48

NineteenSeventyNine · 21/04/2025 09:39

Lapsed Catholic here, but I feel sad about this. He was taking the church in a better direction than many before him. RIP.

Agree

GinGanGoooooolie · 21/04/2025 09:48

He lived by his own principles, eschewed the grandeur wherever possible.

That’s set to continue after his death, he changed the rules to allow him to be buried outside of the Vatican with as little pomp as possible in a simple wooden coffin, saying he was a shepherd and a disciple of Christ, not a powerful figure.

I’m not catholic, I admired Pope Francis. A good man.

LlynTegid · 21/04/2025 09:48

May he rest in peace. Notable for me how many times people I met or know who are not Catholic said about how good a person they felt he was.

PinataHeeHaw · 21/04/2025 09:47

TianasBayou · 21/04/2025 09:08

Why is this in AIBU? Bizarre.

Your comment is bizarre.

Weepixie · 21/04/2025 09:47

DurhamDurham · 21/04/2025 09:06

When I saw him on the news yesterday I said it was a shame that he’s being wheeled out when he’s clearly not at all well. But maybe he knew his time for short and wanted to come out one last time. Hope he rests in peace, imagine one of the last people you saw was JD Vance.

Apart from the sinking feeling in my heart that he’d died my first thought was about how awful to have spent some of your last day with JD Vance.

fudgesmummy · 21/04/2025 09:45

May the Holy Father rest in peace, and rise in glory

LatteLady · 21/04/2025 09:45

BombayBicycleclub · 21/04/2025 09:00

https://news.sky.com/story/pope-francis-has-died-the-vatican-says-12890455 just that really. Will they do the conclave now? Or in a few days as it’s Easter?

The Conclave cannot happen until after the funeral...that is usually a week after the death, so that people can travel to Rome, to pay respects. Traditionally it is about a fortnight after the death, to ensure that all the eligible Cardinals are able to attend.

TorroFerney · 21/04/2025 09:45

Saw him in Rome last year and found it quite affecting despite not being religious. Huge service with loads of different nationalities, it was like a pop concert. What I did find touching and kind was when different priests and bishops etc were waiting to see him, they’d all kneel before him and you could see him trying to stop the elderly and infirm ones from trying to kneel.

Obvnotthegolden · 21/04/2025 09:44

PepperPep · 21/04/2025 09:08

JD Vance, Liz Truss, hmmm.

Exactly what I thought yesterday when I saw the pope on the balcony and heard he has a meeting with JD Vance. He already didn't look well without having to go through that.
Rip

foxlover47 · 21/04/2025 09:44

Very sad , he seemed like a very decent man , passing on Easter Sunday too.
sleep well 🕊️

Sharkknife · 21/04/2025 09:43

There was a worshipper on the news last night saying how glad she was to have seen him in such good health, I'm not sure who she was looking at.. He was clearly very frail, I'm not surprised he's died

EasternStandard · 21/04/2025 09:43

Rest in peace. I was sad to hear this.

SabreIsMyFave · 21/04/2025 09:42

Oh my gosh how sad. 😢 I thought he looked a bit shaky and ill over the weekend. This is like our darling Queen who was still performing duties/meeting Liz Truss etc, and then died a few days later.

R.I.P. Can't remember how long he's been Pope. About 12-13 years?

Aww, sad. Sad

ExitPursuedByABare · 21/04/2025 09:42

RIP Papa.

A good man.

SpottedDonkey · 21/04/2025 09:41

Easter Sunday is the most important day of the church’s year. It seems that Francis hung on long enough to perform his duties yesterday before passing away this morning.

He was, by all accounts, a kind, humble and decent man. Qualities which not all his predecessors possessed. My condolences to his loved ones & all who mourn his death.

Inmydreams88 · 21/04/2025 09:41

I’m not religious but he was one of the only people publicly urging to stop the wars in Gaza and Ukraine and urging people like Trump and Vance to have some human compassion. RIP Pope Francis.

NineteenSeventyNine · 21/04/2025 09:39

Lapsed Catholic here, but I feel sad about this. He was taking the church in a better direction than many before him. RIP.

CamillaMacauley · 21/04/2025 09:39

NOTANUM · 21/04/2025 09:37

I’d say the Vance situation turned into a diplomatic incident.. Vance came to see the pope, was fobbed off with a very senior cardinal but not happy. Italian PM got dragged into it and they met anyhow.

It looked like they were trying to dodge it!

Maybe he felt too ill to meet him? If it’s true that Vance threw a strop and forced the issue with an elderly , unwell man then shame on Vance.

NOTANUM · 21/04/2025 09:38

Mrs Vance is not a Catholic.

NOTANUM · 21/04/2025 09:37

I’d say the Vance situation turned into a diplomatic incident.. Vance came to see the pope, was fobbed off with a very senior cardinal but not happy. Italian PM got dragged into it and they met anyhow.

It looked like they were trying to dodge it!

AgnesX · 21/04/2025 09:36

Theunamedcat · 21/04/2025 09:33

He refused to see him apparently

But he did. Unfortunately. It probably meant more to Mrs Vance.

Political to the last.