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Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 07:50

Me and my ex have been broken up for 3 years now, he does pay a private agreed amount every month for child maintenance, however he is due to have another baby in 6 weeks and the closer the time is approaching I’m worried my child will be left out financially,would it be wise to involve csa?

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beesandstrawberries · 21/04/2025 11:12

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 11:03

For example he couldn’t make it to his dads one night and asked for £10 for food as my son technically shouldn’t of been eating at mine that night the day after and that was also declined

I’m not surprised the extras have stopped, you seem to be taking the p out of him. I’m usually on the mother’s side regarding maintenance , but charging him to cook your child’s dinner is breathtakingly cheeky.

I could understand if dad couldn’t pick child up from school on his day and you had to pick him up or pay for afterschool club, charging him for your work you missed. But charging him for your child’s dinner is insane.

he obviously can see you’re taking advantage of him and doesn’t want to do that anymore

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beesandstrawberries · 21/04/2025 11:07

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 09:05

Would he legally not have to pay for uniforms etc

No. Cms is a flat rate. If they’re told they have to pay £200 a month - that’s all they legally have to pay. If your ex is decent, he can choose to pay extra for uniform, extra curricular, pocket money etc. But considering you have a private agreement, if you took it to Cms - you’ll likely lose the trust in him and he may refuse to pay any extra (and legally he would be in the right).

I would also note that Cms is brutal, self employed people like my ex can get away with not paying a penny. They can also put their children and step children on the claim to pay less. They can also claim travel costs if they travel to see their children. It’s not a lot of money dependant on wage anyway, 12% of income to us main parents putting in most of our salary to cover our children’s costs

BillyBoe46 · 21/04/2025 11:06

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:58

Because extras I’ve asked for recently have been declined. I’m worried that this is the start of it and extras will be stopped once baby arrives, should I go to csa to avoid this happening is my question

He doesn't need to give you the extras. That doesn't mean he shouldn't. It just means that he's not legally required to. I think he's been pretty generous paying £100 more a month than he's required to. His wages have probably gone up in the last 3 years in line with minimum wage. However, so has the cost of living. You're suggesting that the new baby and partner are the issue but it could just be that he can't afford to do it. I know we have had to make changes because are bills have skyrocketed. Maybe you need to look at your expenditure and what curs you xan make. I certainly can't afford for my kidscto do lots of clubs. I've also cut out-of season fruits and we only have takeout twice a month.

PaintYourAssLikeRembrandt · 21/04/2025 11:05

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 11:03

For example he couldn’t make it to his dads one night and asked for £10 for food as my son technically shouldn’t of been eating at mine that night the day after and that was also declined

Jesus, you want to invoice him for absolutely everything, and kick off when he says no.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 21/04/2025 11:04

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 11:03

For example he couldn’t make it to his dads one night and asked for £10 for food as my son technically shouldn’t of been eating at mine that night the day after and that was also declined

Again seriously cheeky. What were you making your child at home that cost £10? Your kid isn’t a cash card. It’s probably time to thread more carefully

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AgentJohnson · 21/04/2025 11:03

Is this really about your son missing out or is it about him having another child?

If he reneges on his promise then go to CMS but you are already shooting yourself in the foot with your growing list of extras.

You wanting his gf to also contribute financially is ridiculous.

PaintYourAssLikeRembrandt · 21/04/2025 11:03

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:58

Because extras I’ve asked for recently have been declined. I’m worried that this is the start of it and extras will be stopped once baby arrives, should I go to csa to avoid this happening is my question

If you go to CMS you may not get more than the 250, but it will be fixed and you will be able to plan finances accordingly. You won't get anything over and above that though.

If you're basing your decision on your, unreasonable imo, request for petrol money being denied, I think it would be pretty unwise at this point.

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 11:03

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:58

Because extras I’ve asked for recently have been declined. I’m worried that this is the start of it and extras will be stopped once baby arrives, should I go to csa to avoid this happening is my question

For example he couldn’t make it to his dads one night and asked for £10 for food as my son technically shouldn’t of been eating at mine that night the day after and that was also declined

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Helpmeplease2025 · 21/04/2025 11:01

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:58

Because extras I’ve asked for recently have been declined. I’m worried that this is the start of it and extras will be stopped once baby arrives, should I go to csa to avoid this happening is my question

You won’t get any extras at all with the CMS. It’s based on what he earns, and that’s it; not what you think you need.

And his partner’s wage is absolutely irrelevant; she doesn’t contribute towards your child.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 21/04/2025 11:01

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:58

Because extras I’ve asked for recently have been declined. I’m worried that this is the start of it and extras will be stopped once baby arrives, should I go to csa to avoid this happening is my question

Yep I answered that ages ago, as have many others. Some of your extras like petrol are cheeky so maybe they are just sick of that. CMS won’t avoid extras being stopped, it will basically guarantee it. I think there’s a really reasonable chance you’d end up worse off financially going to CMS, so I’d wait and see what happens first

PuzzlingRecluse · 21/04/2025 11:00

The cms won’t tell him to pay extras though … if you can have a guess at his pay you can put it in the online calculator to check

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:58

ToKittyornottoKitty · 21/04/2025 10:57

So why do you think £350 is less than what he should be paying now if he’s in the same job?

Because extras I’ve asked for recently have been declined. I’m worried that this is the start of it and extras will be stopped once baby arrives, should I go to csa to avoid this happening is my question

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ToKittyornottoKitty · 21/04/2025 10:57

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:56

Yes it was

So why do you think £350 is less than what he should be paying now if he’s in the same job?

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:56

ToKittyornottoKitty · 21/04/2025 10:56

So OP was £250 what the calculator said he should pay 3 years ago?

Yes it was

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ToKittyornottoKitty · 21/04/2025 10:56

So OP was £250 what the calculator said he should pay 3 years ago?

PaintYourAssLikeRembrandt · 21/04/2025 10:56

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:37

£250
clubs / half of phone bill / school dinners etc can vary up to 350

Is he still in the same job?

He's on a relatively low wage if you calculated it at 250 when you split.

If he's already on a low wage with a baby on the way then £40 a month plus the other £100 in extras is huge.

Ultimately you need to choose whether you'll be better off going to CMS and getting a fixed amount per month, or keeping things as is and hoping he can still pay the extras.

PuzzlingRecluse · 21/04/2025 10:55

Apologies fair would be a better word for what I was trying to say not generous.

my point is it sounds like he pays maintenance, additional costs clubs, phone etc. I’m not sure why op is asking for more at this point & cms unlikely to give it, especially if he can evidence over paid in the past.

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:55

ToKittyornottoKitty · 21/04/2025 10:44

I’m assuming that’s half of your child’s phone bill? Does he pay all the clubs too?

No just half

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ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 21/04/2025 10:54

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:19

yeah maybe your right, he does pay towards the club I didn’t think asking for petrol money was unreasonable as I’m the only one to get him there through the week

But £10 a week? Are you really claiming it takes £80 of petrol a month to get your kid to clubs?

(80 since you pay half)

Cucy · 21/04/2025 10:53

I would try not to worry until the time actually comes.

If he starts paying less then go through CMS but they will take into account that he’s got a second child.

Mrsttcno1 · 21/04/2025 10:52

Bellyblueboy · 21/04/2025 10:50

It’s not a race to the bottom.

there are always people who come on to these threads whose ex pay nothing and their advice to women is be grateful for anything - I get nothing. You are greedy if you want more than whatever you get because I get nothing.

We have no idea if £350 a month is generous because we have no idea what this man earns.

OP said they used the calculator to work out what he should pay originally which was only 3 years ago and he is in the same job, so it’s not going to be vastly out.

Bellyblueboy · 21/04/2025 10:52

Teantoast1 · 21/04/2025 10:24

Should the gf wage not come into play seen as I’m on my own and they have double the income?

Absolutely not. Your ex’s new girlfriend has no finance responsibility to your child.

Bellyblueboy · 21/04/2025 10:50

PuzzlingRecluse · 21/04/2025 10:45

I meant generous in comparison to others, I’d be over the moon if my ds dad even offered to pay part for clubs let alone the rest!!

It’s not a race to the bottom.

there are always people who come on to these threads whose ex pay nothing and their advice to women is be grateful for anything - I get nothing. You are greedy if you want more than whatever you get because I get nothing.

We have no idea if £350 a month is generous because we have no idea what this man earns.

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