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Can I take this NIGHTMARE landlord to court?

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DisgracefulBehaviour · 20/04/2025 22:31

We sold our house last year to release funds as we inherited a house in a different area that we wanted to live in ourselves due to position, large plot etc, as our forever home but the house itself needed fully gutting and we also wanted to add on a self contained annex for our disabled adult son which we needed planning permission for. Our youngest son was also due to start GCSEs so we decided to rent while we completed work on inherited house and he finished school when we will then move up there.

We found a rented property literally a few streets from our old house and stressed that we needed to rent for two years, landlord wanted long term renters so no problem.

Within a short time after moving in it became apparent there was a major issue in the house, house was tenanted previously but letting agents apparently were not aware. After months of toing and froing, landlord had to get builders in and complete costly work which took 8 weeks. We’d been in the property 3 months.

Landlord not happy as said he could not afford to do the work.

We’d requested compensation for the inconvenience as having builders in was a major disruption and we had issues with them leaving mess in the house. I was very upset that we had to leave people we did not know in the property while we were all out.

Landlord said compensation was not justified! Decided not to pursue it as we didn’t want to antagonise the landlord and get kicked out.

A month ago, I contacted environmental health due to a further issue the landlord has refused to deal with. The officer also noticed a major issue that needed immediate rectification so landlord had to do more work.

We have now been served with a Section 21 - no reason given - after 6 months.

I am absolutely furious I have to say. Rent paid on time, house immaculate etc.

We put up with all the work being done as we expected when it was done, we’d be left to it and obviously didn’t want to move again in such a short time considering our timescale. We’d never taken the property if we had known this would happen. It’s a high rent for our area too!

We also never had a copy of the EICR, a serious safety hazard pertaining to that was what was picked up by environmental health, so we are assuming a report was never done.

I have an online court claim prepared to sue the landlord for all 6 months rent in compensation, for stress and breach of quiet enjoyment. I think I have a chance of success.

AIBU?

OP posts:
PsychoHotSauce · 22/04/2025 20:35

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 20:26

I guess I’m interested why so many posters think I’m BU to claim compensation from a nightmare landlord whether I make the claim or not.

Absolutely shocking to see the poll results as well. No wonder tenants are treated so badly in the UK.

I can’t imagine any other scenario where a legally binding business agreement is breached by one party and there are no consequences.

You don't get 'compensation' for a business breach of contract either you know. You can only claim for loss or damages. You're asking to have lived rent free for 6 months, at the landlord's expense as 'punishment' for being a shit landlord. In law, that's called unjust enrichment. No judge will grant you that.

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 20:26

I guess I’m interested why so many posters think I’m BU to claim compensation from a nightmare landlord whether I make the claim or not.

Absolutely shocking to see the poll results as well. No wonder tenants are treated so badly in the UK.

I can’t imagine any other scenario where a legally binding business agreement is breached by one party and there are no consequences.

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NeverHadHaveHas · 22/04/2025 15:51

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 10:45

How was I rude? I told her she was wrong. Is that rude nowadays? Are we to agree with clearly incorrect statements so as not to appear rude?

She then tried to make out I was rude first to explain her very immature and rude LOL.

This thread just gets even more bonkers.

I’m not sure why you’re even still posting on a thread you find bikers when you’re so convinced that you have a claim despite advice to the contrary.
Why waste time here? Crack on, file your claim and update us all with how you get on 👍

Butchyrestingface · 22/04/2025 10:51

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 10:45

How was I rude? I told her she was wrong. Is that rude nowadays? Are we to agree with clearly incorrect statements so as not to appear rude?

She then tried to make out I was rude first to explain her very immature and rude LOL.

This thread just gets even more bonkers.

You’re really not reading the posts. I said SHE said she LOL’d because you responded rudely to her posts.

I didn’t say I thought you responded rudely to her posts. I was clarifying the PP’s post. Nothing more.

I definitely think you were rude in your response to me in claiming the thread is getting even more “bonkers” when I was simply clarifying a PP’s post. She felt you were rude to her, hence the LOL.

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 10:45

Butchyrestingface · 22/04/2025 10:32

She’s agreeing she LOL’d first. She said she did it because you responded rudely to her post.

This is one of these threads where I wonder again why an OP clearly convinced they are as right as right can be has bothered to post on a message board called Am I Being Unreasonable?

The vote is clearly split and even many people who voted YABU (myself included) are sympathetic to your situation and think you’ve had a bad experience but also thinking going after the landlord for compo may be time-consuming, stressful and ultimately fruitless.

How was I rude? I told her she was wrong. Is that rude nowadays? Are we to agree with clearly incorrect statements so as not to appear rude?

She then tried to make out I was rude first to explain her very immature and rude LOL.

This thread just gets even more bonkers.

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Butchyrestingface · 22/04/2025 10:32

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 10:03

No you said it first. In response to me stating your claim was incorrect.

Now claiming you didn’t.

As I said, bonkers AND childish/immature.

She’s agreeing she LOL’d first. She said she did it because you responded rudely to her post.

This is one of these threads where I wonder again why an OP clearly convinced they are as right as right can be has bothered to post on a message board called Am I Being Unreasonable?

The vote is clearly split and even many people who voted YABU (myself included) are sympathetic to your situation and think you’ve had a bad experience but also thinking going after the landlord for compo may be time-consuming, stressful and ultimately fruitless.

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 10:25

Viviennemary · 22/04/2025 09:30

It's hard to give an opinion when nobody uon the thread knows what the state of the house was and how necessary the improvements were. Was the house habitable or not. I think you could claim for the rent while the builders were there if there was a lot of disruption to your daily living.

We didn’t request any improvements, the multiple different contractors sent to deal with water pouring through the ceiling were clear that both bathrooms needed ripping out and replacing, and the dining room ceiling needed completely replastering as a large area was sagging and there was a big hole in it due to water pouring through.

The landlord knew that the bathrooms needed to be replaced from the previous tenancy, but refused to do the work. just patching it up. Letting agent told us that they got quotes but they refused to proceed. I have this in an email.

We did not know this before we moved in.

Landlord told us that they finally did the work as they want to sell the property, therefore forcing us to put up with the disruption and stress of the work while paying full rent only to be kicked out when it was done.

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HellsBalls · 22/04/2025 10:14

I’d stay in the property. Only engage with the agents. Let the section 21 get thrown out of court. Let the LL waste his time and effort. If they are successful with a section 8, don’t leave until you are ready or the bailiffs get involved. The whole process will take until your house is most likely ready. Annoy them more by paying reduced rent, but do pay rent.

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 10:07

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 22/04/2025 09:45

’. DS came down one morning with one on his school shirt which was hanging washed and ironed in his wardrobe, cue mass panic and having to rip it off while I was desperately trying to catch the speedy slithering thing. That was the last straw!’

A silverfish is about half an inch long at most, they are not slimy, in fact I think they are rather sweet. If your son is upset by a small legless insect to that extent, I think you have more problems than a dodgy landlord.

’Mass panic’ ! Blimey….

Edited

They are classed as a pest. Plenty of people would be upset and bothered by an infestation in their home, let alone one in clothes they were actually wearing.

Just because you may have extremely low standards, doesn’t mean everyone else has.

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DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 10:03

SummerIce · 22/04/2025 09:04

Lol ok.

No you said it first. In response to me stating your claim was incorrect.

Now claiming you didn’t.

As I said, bonkers AND childish/immature.

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DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 09:59

PsychoHotSauce · 22/04/2025 09:32

I thought as much. None of that is useful to your 'case' btw. Quite the opposite. All it shows is that you willingly entered into a contract with a clearly lazy and dodgy landlord, and then feel like suing him because he turned out to be a lazy and dodgy landlord...

Judges don't like people sniffing around for an easy payday. As far as I can see you walked into this with your eyes wide open. All the red flags were waving and you went ahead anyway. You don't get compensated for that.

You've got no claim for anything breach of contract related, or misrepresentation related for the excessive claim in your OP, because you were in full possession of all material information about a landlord who will skirt the very edges of the law, without breaking it.

'It's so unfair' is not the basis of a legal claim. Most you'd get is 8 weeks rent and pursue the EICR. No compensation, no 'emotional distress', and if you get greedy with your claim all the judge would see is a tangled mess of mutual bickering and fault on both sides, and you risk the whole thing being thrown out with you getting nothing. HTH.

Edited

What the actual hell?

How did you get from my post that we knew all this BEFORE we signed the tenancy agreement and moved in? We obviously didn’t or we wouldn’t have btw.

Posters on this thread are wilfully misconstruing and twisting what I post.

I wonder why?

OP posts:
Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 22/04/2025 09:45

’. DS came down one morning with one on his school shirt which was hanging washed and ironed in his wardrobe, cue mass panic and having to rip it off while I was desperately trying to catch the speedy slithering thing. That was the last straw!’

A silverfish is about half an inch long at most, they are not slimy, in fact I think they are rather sweet. If your son is upset by a small legless insect to that extent, I think you have more problems than a dodgy landlord.

’Mass panic’ ! Blimey….

Tootiredtowhat · 22/04/2025 09:44

I’d also get yourself set up with somewhere else to live before you kick off too much. What if the next property you see that you want to move into comes from the same agents?

Also be aware estate agents whilst competitors do all chat to each other regularly.

SummerIce · 22/04/2025 09:38

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 09:24

How dare you accuse ME of being rude when you LOLed first. You did not give any well intended advice, you LOLed.

Bonkers!

As you’re using “LOL” as a verb, I LOL’d after your rude response to my post.

Absolute bonkers!

PsychoHotSauce · 22/04/2025 09:32

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 09:22

Yes, we have written evidence the landlord had quotes to replace both bathrooms 6 months before we moved in but chose not to proceed, also that a the dining room ceiling had been patched up due to a leak a day before we moved in. Also that previous tenants had replaced the bath themselves without permission but neither the landlord nor the letting agent had bothered to check it had been fitted properly via a qualified plumber, namely the waste pipe, hence torrents of water coming through the ceiling when we used it, TWICE.

I thought as much. None of that is useful to your 'case' btw. Quite the opposite. All it shows is that you willingly entered into a contract with a clearly lazy and dodgy landlord, and then feel like suing him because he turned out to be a lazy and dodgy landlord...

Judges don't like people sniffing around for an easy payday. As far as I can see you walked into this with your eyes wide open. All the red flags were waving and you went ahead anyway. You don't get compensated for that.

You've got no claim for anything breach of contract related, or misrepresentation related for the excessive claim in your OP, because you were in full possession of all material information about a landlord who will skirt the very edges of the law, without breaking it.

'It's so unfair' is not the basis of a legal claim. Most you'd get is 8 weeks rent and pursue the EICR. No compensation, no 'emotional distress', and if you get greedy with your claim all the judge would see is a tangled mess of mutual bickering and fault on both sides, and you risk the whole thing being thrown out with you getting nothing. HTH.

Viviennemary · 22/04/2025 09:30

DisgracefulBehaviour · 20/04/2025 22:44

What on earth! We’ve done absolutely nothing wrong and fully abided by our side of the tenancy agreement.

Landlord let out an unsafe house which was not fit for habitation!

Are you a landlord perchance?

It's hard to give an opinion when nobody uon the thread knows what the state of the house was and how necessary the improvements were. Was the house habitable or not. I think you could claim for the rent while the builders were there if there was a lot of disruption to your daily living.

Mindymomo · 22/04/2025 09:25

Was there any offer of reduction of rent or any other accommodation whilst the major work was being carried out, I really cannot see how Landlord could expect a family to continue living there with so many problems. Yes, I would take it to Court for reimbursement of rent, stress etc, detail the number of times you’ve had to be available for work/visits etc.

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 09:24

SummerIce · 22/04/2025 09:18

I mean I do this for a living but I’m not going to bother engage on a thread with someone who responds so rudely to well intended advice. So all the best to you OP.

How dare you accuse ME of being rude when you LOLed first. You did not give any well intended advice, you LOLed.

Bonkers!

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gerania · 22/04/2025 09:22

FWIW I agree with the others that this will cost you more money and stress than you will gain.

However seeing as you have decided to go ahead, I wish you luck and hope you win, because I also agree that situation with landlords taking the piss in this country is a travesty. If you want to take them on at your own expense to set precedents and prove a point re. tenant rights then I applaud you and suggest you also contact the local press if you win.

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 09:22

PsychoHotSauce · 22/04/2025 08:31

It would have been different if it the issues had started AFTER we moved in but we have evidence that they were present before.

What evidence? Proving issues before you signed the tenancy you mean?

Yes, we have written evidence the landlord had quotes to replace both bathrooms 6 months before we moved in but chose not to proceed, also that a the dining room ceiling had been patched up due to a leak a day before we moved in. Also that previous tenants had replaced the bath themselves without permission but neither the landlord nor the letting agent had bothered to check it had been fitted properly via a qualified plumber, namely the waste pipe, hence torrents of water coming through the ceiling when we used it, TWICE.

OP posts:
SummerIce · 22/04/2025 09:18

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 09:14

Can you link to where what you’ve come onto this thread to claim is proven so I can LOL………….

Edited

I mean I do this for a living but I’m not going to bother engage on a thread with someone who responds so rudely to well intended advice. So all the best to you OP.

PsychoHotSauce · 22/04/2025 09:17

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 09:14

Can you link to where what you’ve come onto this thread to claim is proven so I can LOL………….

Edited

It would have been different if it the issues had started AFTER we moved in but we have evidence that they were present before.

Can you answer this please? Do you have evidence that there were issues before you started the tenancy?

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 09:14

SummerIce · 22/04/2025 09:04

Lol ok.

Can you link to where what you’ve come onto this thread to claim is proven so I can LOL………….

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AhBiscuits · 22/04/2025 09:07

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 09:03

Actually you are wrong and yes I have.

It may be technically possible but it's a really high bar and won't be awarded unless the situation is pretty extreme. It sounds like you may succeed in arguing the rent should have been reduced for a few months, as you were not getting full benefit from the property. But you won't get as much as you think, especially if you overegg the pudding, judges hate that.

SummerIce · 22/04/2025 09:04

DisgracefulBehaviour · 22/04/2025 09:03

Actually you are wrong and yes I have.

Lol ok.

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