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Would you pay back £11?

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StolenChanel · 20/04/2025 21:49

I went out to an event recently with a non-close friend. We used to work together and thought we’d catch up as it was something we’re both interested in. We’re not close but friendly and always got along well. I paid for the tickets on my card and it was only £11. She said “send me your bank details so I can pay you back” and I did. A week has since passed and she still hasn’t paid me back. It’s only £11 so I haven’t chased it but honestly I’m a bit miffed. We both work in the same industry so I know we’re on similar salaries, (which really isn’t very high but also not very low either) but she is far more financially comfortable than I am. Her husband has a high paying job, her in laws do their childcare and she owns properties that she rents out. I, on the other hand, budget very tightly for each month and, with the cost of living and school holiday, this month’s budget has run through far quicker than usual.

I’m not going to bother chasing her for it as I’m not completely flat out (yet) and get paid in a few days anyway, but I’m just wondering if it’s normal to not pay someone back for something this small?

YANBU = she should have paid back
YABU = it’s only £11, get over it.

OP posts:
Flutterbyby · 21/04/2025 00:12

DBD1975 · 21/04/2025 00:10

Did she drive, pay for drinks or pay for anything on the evening? Not sure I would be that worried about £11. Not because I am well off but because I couldn't be bothered.

You could try RTFT?

DBD1975 · 21/04/2025 00:10

Did she drive, pay for drinks or pay for anything on the evening? Not sure I would be that worried about £11. Not because I am well off but because I couldn't be bothered.

MoominMai · 21/04/2025 00:07

YANBU at all. So many people unable to digest a simple thread and consider all the facts seemingly. Fair enough she drove the two hour round trip but you paid the £7 parking and a few soft drinks London prices so not cheap which is fair reimbursement for her driving. So by my calculations you’re still owed the ticket price. If it were me, I’d definitely ask again especially as she agreed to pay you - it’s the principle of it.

GoldBeautifulHeart · 20/04/2025 23:47

StolenChanel · 20/04/2025 22:09

Sorry I didn’t mean to drip feed. When we were booking the event, I had said I wouldn’t be able to go as my car would be in the garage that day and she said “don’t worry, I’ll drive us”. She lives about a 10 - 15 min walk from me so I walked to and from hers and she drove.

Well you have drip fed. In that case she owes you nada.

Mountainash · 20/04/2025 23:47

I would say that 2hours driving and fuel, would be a generous exchange for her ticket.
IMHO

Dogaredabomb · 20/04/2025 23:42

Oh, I see you paid the parking and drinks. I think she owes you for the ticket but I can see why she'd decide she doesn't.

If I was her I'd pay instantly, before you asked.

Dogaredabomb · 20/04/2025 23:37

StolenChanel · 20/04/2025 22:04

I’m wondering if she’s thinking she shouldn’t pay because she drove us to the event? It was about an hour away from where we both live. In which case was I the cheeky one for not just saying “I’ll get the tickets as you drove”?

Ah, maybe. Did she also buy some drinks or snacks for you both possibly?

Thistlewoman · 20/04/2025 23:33

StolenChanel · 20/04/2025 21:49

I went out to an event recently with a non-close friend. We used to work together and thought we’d catch up as it was something we’re both interested in. We’re not close but friendly and always got along well. I paid for the tickets on my card and it was only £11. She said “send me your bank details so I can pay you back” and I did. A week has since passed and she still hasn’t paid me back. It’s only £11 so I haven’t chased it but honestly I’m a bit miffed. We both work in the same industry so I know we’re on similar salaries, (which really isn’t very high but also not very low either) but she is far more financially comfortable than I am. Her husband has a high paying job, her in laws do their childcare and she owns properties that she rents out. I, on the other hand, budget very tightly for each month and, with the cost of living and school holiday, this month’s budget has run through far quicker than usual.

I’m not going to bother chasing her for it as I’m not completely flat out (yet) and get paid in a few days anyway, but I’m just wondering if it’s normal to not pay someone back for something this small?

YANBU = she should have paid back
YABU = it’s only £11, get over it.

YANBU.

ConstanceM · 20/04/2025 23:32

StolenChanel · 20/04/2025 21:55

I already did that and she didn’t respond! I even messaged her again about something unrelated in the hope that she’d see the previous message and remember, but she replied to that and not the one with my bank details.

I feel silly chasing it (and, honestly a bit embarrassed) and I’m just hoping she suddenly realises. It’s not earth shattering but it’s the difference between me saying yes and no when the kids ask for an ice cream or something when we’re out and about.

See at as investment of £11 to end the friendship.
If she doesn't pay back you know she wasn't worth £11 quid anyway. You never have to deal with people again if they never pay you back, that's the punishment. They can F right off. Once bitten, twice shy. Do not pay for non close friends again..

OnTheBoardwalk · 20/04/2025 23:29

StolenChanel · 20/04/2025 22:59

No I paid the £7 parking and we both drank soft drinks as it wasn’t really that type of event. It was in London so soft drinks are pricier than usual but we wouldn’t have been drinking anyway.

Ok sorry I missed the point you paid for parking

how would you have got there without her lift?

Weepixie · 20/04/2025 23:29

StolenChanel · 20/04/2025 22:04

I’m wondering if she’s thinking she shouldn’t pay because she drove us to the event? It was about an hour away from where we both live. In which case was I the cheeky one for not just saying “I’ll get the tickets as you drove”?

And here’s the drip feed.

BlondeMummyto1 · 20/04/2025 23:27

StolenChanel · 20/04/2025 22:04

I’m wondering if she’s thinking she shouldn’t pay because she drove us to the event? It was about an hour away from where we both live. In which case was I the cheeky one for not just saying “I’ll get the tickets as you drove”?

Ahhhh. She drove so seems only fair you cover her ticket.

If you’re struggling over £11 maybe don’t go in future.

ElleintheWoods · 20/04/2025 23:24

She'll just have forgotten. I forget these kinds of things all the time as I would't care about someone owning me 11 quid, so unless I transfer immediately, I'll just forget, there's so many other things to remember.

People always forget with me also and I don't really chase them/ care. Some remember later, some don't.

However if you want, if you send her a quick 'how are you' text, she'll see the bank details just above in the thread, and she'll remember, be embarrassed and pay up. Or mention the event in a conversation and she'll remember for sure, also. I'm always mortified that I've forgotten, but the forgetting isn't malicious.

notwavingbutdrowning1 · 20/04/2025 23:23

It’s not earth shattering but it’s the difference between me saying yes and no when the kids ask for an ice cream or something when we’re out and about.

This is what you should say to her, OP.

couchparsnip · 20/04/2025 23:18

If we're being fair you have paid for:
Two tickets £22, Drinks £10-£12, Parking £7. Total £39-£41
You have subbed her around £20.

In turn she has paid for your share of petrol about £6-£7.
You're down £13 at least.
She definitely owes you for the ticket and should buy you a soft drink next time you're out as well!

SheridansPortSalut · 20/04/2025 23:16

Let it go.

If you use revolut it's easy but sending bank details is a pita.

MumOnBus · 20/04/2025 23:11

MrsTWH · 20/04/2025 21:52

Just message her? She might have forgotten.

This! YABU for making it bigger than it is, YANBU for wanting the £11 back. Just check with her she got the right bank details?

OatFlatWhiteForMe · 20/04/2025 23:10

I know you have said the £11 wasn’t in your budget this month, but you would have needed that or more in fuel had you driven yourself.

uncomfortablydumb60 · 20/04/2025 23:09

I’d chase it. The principle matters more than the amount.

Isittimeformynapyet · 20/04/2025 23:08

OnTheBoardwalk · 20/04/2025 22:57

She paid the £7 parking and was drinking soft drinks as she was driving you

i wouldn’t be chasing the £11. What would you have done without her? Expensive taxi?

OP says she wouldn't have gone, so that's a no to the expensive taxi.

She also clearly said that she paid the parking herself.

Any more helpful input?

Bonniethetiler · 20/04/2025 23:01

StolenChanel · 20/04/2025 22:55

I wasn’t having a go at all, I’m just wondering if I am the one who is being unreasonable here, hence posting in AIBU.

I can’t remember who the PP was who asked how much drinks and parking came to, but it was around the £10 - £12 mark in total. Parking was £7 and I can’t remember what drinks she got but they were soft drinks.

As I said, it isn’t something I’m losing sleep over, I’m just wondering whether or not most people would think to pay back. My social circle and I always pay people back instantly when they buy things on my behalf, but we’re all from very different backgrounds to this friend who has never had to think about money. I know MN generally has people from backgrounds similar to this friend, so I was just wondering what the norm is. The “middle class world” is still very new to me.

But in your OP you say you are "miffed" so it must be troubling you to some extent. At least, allow this experience to set the boundaries for the next one. As in, get the money before you order. Lay out the ground-rules from the outset. Be that person who starts with "now do forgive me as these things are impossible to word politely, but can I just ask which of us should pay for the..." and go from there. Good luck.

CandyCane457 · 20/04/2025 23:01

GoldenNuggets08 · 20/04/2025 22:58

Disagree. Any time I've driven to events I've always been treated to drinks because of the above reasons.
So in my opinion op paying for drinks cancels out the hardship of driving.
The OP paying for tickets and parking cancels out fuel and wear-n-tear costs of the car.
So in my opinion they are even!
But I understand why OP was panicking when she thought she was getting £11 back and it never came through.

I guess we are all different but personally to me, driving is no hardship. It’s literally nothing to me. My commute to work is a 1hr40 round trip every day.
The OPs friend did say she was happy to pay £11 for the ticket and asked for bank details, so if she felt driving was so tiring and such a hardship maybe she would’ve taken that opportunity to say so? I think it’s more likely she had no issue driving, fully intended to pay the £11, but has now forgotten despite being chased, leading OP into this awkward situation.

Negroany · 20/04/2025 23:01

weathervane1 · 20/04/2025 22:12

If the event was an hour away - say 40 - 50 miles, then that's an 80 - 100 mile round trip. Assuming a total of 90 miles in a car that does 45 to the gallon (4.55 litres), where I live in the North west, that would have cost £1.40 x 4.55 x 2 (both ways) = £12.74. I doubt your non-close friend is thinking in those terms but it's worth remembering that an expense such as petrol, which can often seem invisible if the car doesn't need filling up, can be expensive. Add wear and tear on top and I think I wouldn't be chasing for the petrol. Could she have had second thoughts in terms of realising that in a way, she has already paid her fair share?

So, half of that then. And the friend owes £11 for the ticket and half of the drinks (or at least her own drink) and parking.

In fact, the drink and parking pretty much equal the fuel, so the friend should definitely pay for the ticket!

StolenChanel · 20/04/2025 22:59

OnTheBoardwalk · 20/04/2025 22:57

She paid the £7 parking and was drinking soft drinks as she was driving you

i wouldn’t be chasing the £11. What would you have done without her? Expensive taxi?

No I paid the £7 parking and we both drank soft drinks as it wasn’t really that type of event. It was in London so soft drinks are pricier than usual but we wouldn’t have been drinking anyway.

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GoldenNuggets08 · 20/04/2025 22:58

CandyCane457 · 20/04/2025 22:55

All those things you mention though are nothing to do with the money side of things, separate issue. She shouldn’t have offered to drive if it’s that much of a strain for her (which I don’t actually think it was, seeing as she was clearly happy too!)

Disagree. Any time I've driven to events I've always been treated to drinks because of the above reasons.
So in my opinion op paying for drinks cancels out the hardship of driving.
The OP paying for tickets and parking cancels out fuel and wear-n-tear costs of the car.
So in my opinion they are even!
But I understand why OP was panicking when she thought she was getting £11 back and it never came through.

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