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To really hate school run and feeling overwhelmed

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Familydyn · 20/04/2025 15:32

I’m really worried and anxious about the school run next week and wondering if anyone could please support me. I’m quiet but I am sociable in that I will say hello and smile at people. I’ve been told I’m bubbly when I confided in someone about my feelings and they dismissed me and basically told me I’m not the problem and these mums are very cliquey and unfriendly. Truthfully I don’t fully believe this is the case. I think they just don’t like me. It’s really awkward as I’ll say hello to them all but it feels like strange as they all wait for each other at the cars then walk in as a group laughing and joking.

there’s a few mums who aren’t part of this group and I’ve invited one over for play date but when I saw her again she was really cold and didn’t even say hi till I said hi first. I’ve also tried arranging play dates with kids my child plays with but I’m met with how busy they are. I recently found out they did a group play date and didn’t invite my child even though they are all friendly, it’s really awkward as it’s only 15 in the class. My child is year 1 and majority of the mothers only met at the school. I feel upset as they all share birthdays, days out and holidays together and I’m really not involved. How shall I behave on Tuesday? Completely blank them or be polite as I usually do. How do I not let them get to me?

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Ohnobackagain · 25/04/2025 22:45

Honestly @Familydyn I do feel for you but I think you need to back off a bit. Especially as not one of them intervened when one of the kids told yours to go away. I would avoid eye contact with them and only say morning if someone says it to you. Just step back and reset for a bit.

Tameys · 25/04/2025 22:42

That sounds awful.
Sign him up to everything you can outside school.
What are the school sports for the school during secondary school?
Get him involved now so that he might get onto a team.
It is especially hurtful that they would be dismissive of a child, but it shows their character.
Not people that you would really wish to be involved with.
Great suggestion from @BrentfordForever

Aichek · 25/04/2025 22:37

I really hate this trope of 'bitchy school mums'. It's sexist. Why don't dads have to be nice to people at the school gate? Why is it only women who have to make or recieve social overtures in relation to their children's school?

Kindly, op, it's just the school run. If it's making you this anxious I think you need some other help or to concentrate on building your social circle in other ways.

I don't try and be friendly to anyone particularly at school- I've got a full time job, volunteering and enough friends outside of school I don't have the bandwidth for. I'm not thinking anything about anyone except getting out of there. It doesn't stop DC having playdates when we've got time- me or their dad will just WhatsApp the relevant person off the class group but like others have said we don't get a lot of spare time. No drama, we don't need to be their new best friend. You need to radically reframe this.

Hollyhedge · 25/04/2025 22:35

in terms of play dates try other children and what about out of school activities ?

Hollyhedge · 25/04/2025 22:33

That is not nice but just try to be matter of fact and don’t try too hard. You don’t have to be in their group. The children will have their own preferences for friends soon

BrentfordForever · 25/04/2025 22:30

@Familydyn if school is small
ask teacher for support

we had similar friendships issues when my youngest moved school. Very cliquey environment with kids already been friends for years

Teacher was fantastic , figured out potential friends, found opportunities to play together , and then I arranged play dates as other kids really wanted to . Now we have no issues at all.We are in very small indie school though so support was easy but perhaps you can speak to school too.

Familydyn · 25/04/2025 22:20

@MsNevermore thank you for sharing. I wish I could t care too I really wish I was more like you. Carpool loop sounds amazing! Wish we had that

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PowderRoom · 25/04/2025 22:13

Familydyn · 25/04/2025 22:03

@PowderRoom but I have to be involved in my child’s social life as he’s so small! I have to arrange play dates for him until he’s old enough to do so himself. So genuine question - how can I make sure he has play dates and gets invited to things if I totally disengage from the parents? How does he have play dates without involving me

But you don’t need the parents to be your friends! You issued an invitation. Wait and see if the other parent responds. some people don’t do play dates much, or on the other hand, are booked up way ahead, or prefer to go with the flow — I couldn’t, as I worked FT, and had to arrange stuff on about one possible day a fortnight.

What you should absolutely not do is confuse his social life with yours, start to see rejection around every corner, and give him a complex. You will also do far better not giving an impression of slightly manic desperation.

MsNevermore · 25/04/2025 22:13

Get in, get out.

When I was still living in the U.K. I detested this aspect of the school run.
We lived in a small, rural village and the village primary was a lovely school with an outstanding OFSTED rating. Lovely place!
But from what conversation I did have on the playground: majority of the other mums were at least 10 years older than me (I had my DC’s in my very early 20’s). They were all mid-30’s to early 40’s, had been career women before kids. They were all married to blokes with high-earning jobs. They were all very outwardly “put together” - nice outfits, designer shoes, clearly no stranger to a hair salon etc
And then there was me 🫠 mid-20’s, single mum, 2 children attending the school plus a baby, heavily tattooed, skinny jeans with a band t-shirt and Vans was my school run uniform, and I worked in a boozer at the time 🤷🏻‍♀️😂 I stuck out like a sore thumb.
I made one set of good friends - a couple around my age who would alternate school runs. We got on really well. But me and that couple clearly were not welcome in the bigger circle.
I just didn’t care! Clearly these women were not my people, we had nothing in common. My DCs were friends with their’s, my DC’s still got invited to birthday parties etc……but I definitely wasn’t concerned that I wasn’t getting invited to School Mum Brunch 😂🫠

I much prefer the system at my DC’s school here in the US: Carpool loop.
Pull up outside the front doors of the school, say goodbye, kids get out of the car, I drive off. I’ve had zero interaction with any other parents from school for almost an entire school year. It’s blissful. No playground politics!!

Familydyn · 25/04/2025 22:11

I think I maybe projecting my own insecurities onto him. I went to a similar small school and my face didn’t fit in with them and my mum never made the effort to invite people so I was always adamant I would try harder. We have a few neighbours who have kids slightly older I could try getting him friendly with.

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Familydyn · 25/04/2025 22:08

@PowderRoom yeah I suppose I shouldn’t take it personally! It was just really sad he went up to the kids very shyly and asked if he could play and was told to go away. I’m thinking of taking him to clubs outside of school to make friends but the same kids are in all the after school clubs. It’s small villiage we are always bumping into each other and get ignored.

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Hurryuphumphreygeorgeiswaiting · 25/04/2025 22:05

Also I met mum friends with clubs outside the school gate.

Familydyn · 25/04/2025 22:05

@Hurryuphumphreygeorgeiswaiting thank you and sorry you felt this way too, it’s horrible. I’m probably not explaining it well but I’ve accepted they’re not my friends but want to be friendly for my sons sake and I’m finding it tough as it’s a small school and if I don’t make the effort he will continue to be left out of things.

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PowderRoom · 25/04/2025 22:04

Familydyn · 25/04/2025 21:56

I’m not trying to get them to like me, I really couldn’t care less now and had a mindset not to care this morning but the fact my child wanted to play with who he considers his best friend made me sad. I thought having a play date might make things better for him and he said himself he wants to have a play date with this friend.

He’s six! At that age ‘best friends’ change with the weather. He’s almost certainly less upset about it than you are. Your job as a parent is to say ‘Maybe X didn’t feel like playing’, and go on your way, asking him about his day. Children that age are often shattered at the end of the school week, anyway, and haven’t they been together all week at school? You issued an invitation, and seem to be overreacting to a lack of reply, but how long is it since you messaged? It often took me days to reply to playdate invitations.

Hurryuphumphreygeorgeiswaiting · 25/04/2025 22:03

Don't stress with the school gate OP. My dc's are all at secondary and university, but I remember the feeling very well with my oldest. It didn't help we moved from a city to a tiny village and I didn't fit in. I thought I would make mum friends but it didn't happen with my oldest. I thought they were clicky and bitchy but they just all knew each other from growing up in the village. With my younger dc's I met a lovely mum and our boys are still friends. We still catch up even when we left primary years ago. Don't over think it and just be polite with a hi. You will meet other mums but they may be outside the school gate. Just chill. You will meet your tribe.

Familydyn · 25/04/2025 22:03

@PowderRoom but I have to be involved in my child’s social life as he’s so small! I have to arrange play dates for him until he’s old enough to do so himself. So genuine question - how can I make sure he has play dates and gets invited to things if I totally disengage from the parents? How does he have play dates without involving me

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PowderRoom · 25/04/2025 21:59

Familydyn · 25/04/2025 21:48

Does anyone please have any advice regarding today? I have no one to talk to and I feel myself spiralling. I don’t want my kids to see me so broken over this. I really need some advice

Take the advice you’ve already been given! Disengage. Distinguish between your child’s social life and your own. Have some therapy. You can’t make people like you, and you need to stop fixating on these people.

Familydyn · 25/04/2025 21:56

I’m not trying to get them to like me, I really couldn’t care less now and had a mindset not to care this morning but the fact my child wanted to play with who he considers his best friend made me sad. I thought having a play date might make things better for him and he said himself he wants to have a play date with this friend.

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OriginalUsername2 · 25/04/2025 21:51

You’ve been given loads of really good advice and gone and done the opposite. Stop trying to make the group like you. You’ll be coming across as intense.

Again: stop obsessing over these people and make friends elsewhere. They’ve shown clearly that they’re not interested.

Familydyn · 25/04/2025 21:48

Does anyone please have any advice regarding today? I have no one to talk to and I feel myself spiralling. I don’t want my kids to see me so broken over this. I really need some advice

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Familydyn · 25/04/2025 21:36

I know I shouldn’t let it get to me but my child was running to the other kids after school today and he was just ignored! The mums were standing in a group and he went up to his friends and they told him to go away. The mothers just didn’t respond to this. I know I shouldn’t let them get to me but it’s really difficult not to. I just felt sad for him. I came home and texted his best friends mum (one of the women in the group who was standing around). I sent a very cheerful message saying hope they’re well and my (child name) would love a play date next week. She’s read it but didn’t reply! I feel stupid for messaging.

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IjustDontknow28 · 22/04/2025 13:25

Do they not have jobs to go to@Familydyn ? I honestly wouldn’t feel self conscious, you sound really nice. In our area there’s a lot of sahm /unemployed mothers at the school gate and I’ve had a few stupid comments when I’ve had to rush off to work 🤷‍♀️ I never comment on their situation but there’s definitely a lack of awareness from some about having to rush off etc

Fabulousagain · 22/04/2025 13:08

School is for the children not the parents but now it seems there is more school mum dramas than there is with the kids.
My sister took her kids to school then picked them up only time she would have a chat was if someone started it just a nit nat and got on with her day.
She did say shes pleased she dont have to deal with it now. The best day of her life was not having to deal with the schools anymore plus being 41 she would not have the time to deal with play dates and school mums BS.
Her children are both adults now.

Familydyn · 22/04/2025 12:50

SallyWD · 22/04/2025 12:09

Thank you x. My youngest has just started secondary school so no more school runs for me!
By the time my second child started school, I'd already decided not to try and make friends at school. I'd been burnt once and didn't want to get emotionally involved again.
I was always nice and friendly to everyone but kept it brief and superficial. Just dropped him, said hi to a few people and left. I did get to know two or three mums a bit better over the years but we never became close friends.
With my first child I did end up making friends with one mum but that wasn't until DD was in year 5 and I'd given up trying by then!
I'd say just stop caring, drop your child at school, smile and say hi to people and leave it at that. If anything develops then great, if not, it doesn't natter.

That’s a good attitude to have and I will also follow this. Thank you x

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SallyWD · 22/04/2025 12:09

Familydyn · 22/04/2025 11:21

@SallyWD thats exactly how I feel. It’s painful seeing how easily people have bonded and I just do t feel able to have the same connections. How is school run and life for you right now? Wishing you well x

Thank you x. My youngest has just started secondary school so no more school runs for me!
By the time my second child started school, I'd already decided not to try and make friends at school. I'd been burnt once and didn't want to get emotionally involved again.
I was always nice and friendly to everyone but kept it brief and superficial. Just dropped him, said hi to a few people and left. I did get to know two or three mums a bit better over the years but we never became close friends.
With my first child I did end up making friends with one mum but that wasn't until DD was in year 5 and I'd given up trying by then!
I'd say just stop caring, drop your child at school, smile and say hi to people and leave it at that. If anything develops then great, if not, it doesn't natter.

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