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To not attend family gatherings as the only single person

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Sundaycoffee · 20/04/2025 15:22

AIBU to avoid family gatherings as I find them too difficult as a single person.
I am one of 3 daughters the oldest at 39. My two youngers sisters (37 and 28) both have young children and the entire time they spend their time chatting about parenting. Their other halves get on well and obviously a lot of the day is focused around the children.
I feel like the black sheep of the family as I am single and childless (not by choice) and being the eldest makes it even more difficult to see my two younger sisters bonding over motherhood.
I come away from these gatherings feeling like the black sheep of the family and need to take time throughout the day popping for a break to myself as I feel quite overwhelmed by it all.
It's starting to make me feel like maybe it would be easier to miss them altogether but would IBU?

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MoistVonL · 02/05/2025 17:45

Sharptonguedwoman · 02/05/2025 17:16

Then better to say nothing at all that divides the daughters.

I agree.

But I think OP’s mum was clumsy rather than unkind. She was thinking in terms of mothers, what with it being Mother’s Day, and didn’t reflect on how OP might perceive it.

Sharptonguedwoman · 02/05/2025 17:16

MoistVonL · 02/05/2025 11:10

It would be about something different. She wasn’t talking about her experience as a mother to three lovely daughters.

She was talking about the brilliant mothers they have become. She can’t congratulate her daughter who isn’t a mum on being a good mum.

Then better to say nothing at all that divides the daughters.

CloudPop · 02/05/2025 12:44

Sundaycoffee · 20/04/2025 16:42

Yeah, I guess I just feel like at my age the chances of it happening are now slim and unlike a career or uni its something that I am permanently reminded of whenever I see my family.
On mothers day my mum dedicated a Facebook post to her "two daughters who are now also mothers" and thanking them for bringing such happiness into her and my dads life. Obviously I got no mention at all 😅
It just makes me want to distance myself from it all and I feel like the black sheep of the family x

That’s awful of your mother. Really incredibly thoughtless and insensitive. I’m surprised your sisters haven’t pulled her up on it.

the7Vabo · 02/05/2025 12:39

MoistVonL · 02/05/2025 11:10

It would be about something different. She wasn’t talking about her experience as a mother to three lovely daughters.

She was talking about the brilliant mothers they have become. She can’t congratulate her daughter who isn’t a mum on being a good mum.

True, but given her daughter she is struggling it would have been more sensitive to acknowledge the OP in same way - thank you to my 3 lovely girls who have made motherhood so special to me followed by grandkids.

Or better still IMO text her two other daughters as I have no idea why anyone much less older person who, I’m sorry to be ageist, shouldn’t need to seek validation on Facebook. I’m the OP’s age with 120 odd Facebook friends and a tiny number still share personal stuff on Facebook. But that is a whole other debate so I’ll leave it!

the7Vabo · 02/05/2025 12:34

wildfellhall · 02/05/2025 11:38

YANBU
i think you should definitely do what feels right for you, maybe go less often and create a shorter attendance when you do go.

There is something to be said for taking control of your life & deciding how you feel about what who you are. Things are likely to change over time and if you invest in yourself and in growing a personal life with friends and hobbies or service or learning of some kind - a life which helps you become fulfilled - that’s the ideal.

The parent bore dynamic does change and I have to say I am now an aunt who is completely besotted with my grown up nieces and nephew. We are really close and when we all gather we have a great time.

So I would advise look after yourself but keep an eye on the long game and the great joys of family life

I wish you all the best.

This, the long game. I would say if you don’t have children there will be period of time with your family that will be harder than others. But children grow up, and things will become more balanced again.

Work out what you need to do for yourself meantime.

wildfellhall · 02/05/2025 11:38

YANBU
i think you should definitely do what feels right for you, maybe go less often and create a shorter attendance when you do go.

There is something to be said for taking control of your life & deciding how you feel about what who you are. Things are likely to change over time and if you invest in yourself and in growing a personal life with friends and hobbies or service or learning of some kind - a life which helps you become fulfilled - that’s the ideal.

The parent bore dynamic does change and I have to say I am now an aunt who is completely besotted with my grown up nieces and nephew. We are really close and when we all gather we have a great time.

So I would advise look after yourself but keep an eye on the long game and the great joys of family life

I wish you all the best.

MoistVonL · 02/05/2025 11:10

Sharptonguedwoman · 02/05/2025 10:00

How hard would it have been for OP's tone deaf mother to post about loving Mother's Day with her three daughters?

It would be about something different. She wasn’t talking about her experience as a mother to three lovely daughters.

She was talking about the brilliant mothers they have become. She can’t congratulate her daughter who isn’t a mum on being a good mum.

MimiGC · 02/05/2025 10:17

I totally get where you’re coming from. I was single until 37, then met my partner and had two children in my early 40s. Prior to that, I definitely felt left out and awkward at family gatherings. Not so much with my immediate family, but certainly in the wider family of aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. I did avoid some big family events and whilst that was mostly ok, I feel huge regret about not going to my Nan’s 80th birthday, as she died not long afterwards. I really did cut off my nose to spite my face there.

Sharptonguedwoman · 02/05/2025 10:00

MoistVonL · 20/04/2025 20:18

If you avoid family get togethers you will feel - and be - increasingly sidelined. You'll not know about shared conversations, plans made, jokes shares, nor kept up with the news in everyone's lives.

When young children are in play, they will always be a dominant topic among families. Hell, we're only in families because they (our parents) had children. So it's inevitable there will be a focus on grandchildren and conversations about various stages of parenting. It's something they have all been through or are going through.

But that's not all there has to be. With my BIL it's a shared love of a genre of films; with my dad and my MIL it's birdwatching; all the adults are particularly competitive about Gin Rummy that follows all shared meals.

Finding other common ground that allows you to keep those strong bonds with your family is more likely to make you feel connected to your family than to pull apart and be The One Who Never Shows Up.

As for the Mother's Day post - I think you're reading in to it something that wasn't there. Mother's Day is about appreciating mothers. Your mum was congratulating your sisters on being good mums, acknowledging their roles as mothers. It's not for acknowledging all your offspring* Mothers. God knows they only get one day a year.

*I love that word. Blame Finding Nemo if you don't like it yourself. Mine are Offspring, we are Parental Units. Dude.

How hard would it have been for OP's tone deaf mother to post about loving Mother's Day with her three daughters?

the7Vabo · 02/05/2025 09:58

OP I think your feelings are 100% valid and I don’t think it would be unreasonable to skip or shorten your attendance at family gatherings at least while the kids are very young. That’s if you feel that the right thing for you.

I think it will (hopefully!) get better. Very young children can be an intense experience all around. I’d wager people talk less about an 8 year old than a 1 year old. A 1 year old has constant milestones, changes etc. So parents & grandparents take a lot of pictures etc. it will lessen with time I think.

And hopefully the conversation will become less child/centred.

I’d try not to let the family pictures bother you OP. I’m not saying I don’t understand why they do. Again, an older child won’t be standing posing in his sports gear he’ll be off in the garden or whatever.

The couch thing I don’t get, it’s the couch in your parents house, sit on it!!

I think your sister presumably thought it was enough to recognise your feelings. It sounds like you are close so could you try to discuss it. You could look Im happy for you, but could you put yourself in my shoes and see how it might feel to walk into a family gathering when it’s 3 hours of endless talk about children etc.

And also being an aunt is a role that can be very rewarding. I’m surprised by how much affection I feel for my niece & nephew.

Sharptonguedwoman · 02/05/2025 09:49

Sundaycoffee · 20/04/2025 16:42

Yeah, I guess I just feel like at my age the chances of it happening are now slim and unlike a career or uni its something that I am permanently reminded of whenever I see my family.
On mothers day my mum dedicated a Facebook post to her "two daughters who are now also mothers" and thanking them for bringing such happiness into her and my dads life. Obviously I got no mention at all 😅
It just makes me want to distance myself from it all and I feel like the black sheep of the family x

Oh that's grim and absolutely tone deaf. OP, I wonder if she would listen if you spoke to her about how you felt?

VLowBar · 02/05/2025 08:25

Sundaycoffee · 21/04/2025 15:33

Would you expect something more? It seems a bit pointless articulating how I feel just to get a response like that. It hasn't brought any resolution and it's probably made me feel slightly worse than before if anything!

That response lacks warmth and care. It accepts the issue but does not add anything kind or understanding. That’s not the response I would have sent.

I think this may be a ‘your family’ thing. Yes they have kids and that’s fine, but they also sound a bit self-absorbed and selfish. Some people just are like that, parents or not.

Gemi33 · 02/05/2025 07:48

Hi OP

I am in my early 40s, single and no children (not through choice) and I completely understand. I have spent my life going to family events where everyone is in couples and has children and it can feel very lonely.

xx

dimples76 · 02/05/2025 07:32

I totally understand why you were disappointed in your sister's response. I would have hoped that she would have asked if there was anything they could do to help make it less uncomfortable/acknowledge that they should do more to include you.

I am the eldest of 4. Always wanted to have kids but did not become a Mum until I was 38 (as a single adopter) by which time my two younger siblings were parents and had 5 children between them. Although I was jealous of what they had I never felt excluded by them or less important to my parents. My siblings never just sat around talking about parenting though - that sounds boring as a parent! I also threw myself into playing with my niece and nephews and babysat them often. My relationship with them is very important and we're still close (we'll they're teenagers now so don't always want to be).

Is it worth talking to your other sister?

I think that it would be reasonable to reduce your attendance at these bigger family get together.

Wish44 · 02/05/2025 07:08

I understand OP. My brother felt the same for a long time … and we understood that family gatherings were hard.

as time has gone on he is more accepting of his bad luck about children and therefore happier in himself and now enjoys family stuff again…especially as the children are all older now and so don’t dominate gatherings with their needs in the same way..time may change how you feel too.

bigknitblanket · 02/05/2025 06:59

I can see where you’re coming from, my DSis was single for a long time and has no dc but has always been really close to mine and my brother’s kids - a doting aunt who was always babysitting or taking them out. I think this made it easier - do you have a close relationship with them?

the7Vabo · 02/05/2025 06:45

Zorrocat · 02/05/2025 04:05

I am in the exact situation you are and I sympathize with you 100%. I am the oldest of three daughters. I am 65, never married, no children. This is not by choice, I’ve had a lot of past heartache and bad luck, never found the right man. My sisters’ kids are older now, and some of my cousins’ kids are having babies of
their own. It’s just a matter of time before my sisters become grandparents, too.
The family gatherings are all about the babies. That’s the only thing that matters. No one ever asks what is new with me or
how I am. It’s tiring, but, it is even more sad, as it brings up emotions of heartache and things not working out, and that I am alone. I have a lot of friends and manage to keep busy, but family gatherings are hard. In fact, many years ago one Christmas, my sister’s drunk husband took me aside and said, “You’re gay, aren’t you. You have to be because you never bring any men over to Christmas or Thanksgiving.” This struck a nerve and I was so hurt because, he was drunk and mean. Not only that, he has no idea how much I would have liked to get married and have a child. I replied that, no, I don’t happen to be gay; but, even if I was, what does it matter? He kept insisting that I was gay and that I could confide in him that I was.

I will never forget how hurt I was by this, especially at Christmas. This guy is a jerk, I wish my sister would divorce him.

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I’m so sorry. Have you come across Jody Day? She speaks of the years when her friends had children as hard, then there was a bit of a lull I think and then the started on about the grandkids.

And the husband no words. How awful of him.

notsureyetcertain · 02/05/2025 05:42

It’s a hard situation to be in, you want to be close to your family but also find it hard. I’d probably skip events like Easter but still do Xmas and birthdays. I’d try to see family separately so your not missing out on time with then.

Whybother618 · 02/05/2025 05:30

I have a very similar situation to you just in reverse. I have a pre-school DS who is the youngest in our extended family by well over 15 years. All his cousins etc are over 18. This means that any family events are adult orientated to the point where a toddler feels totally out of place. As a result of this we don’t attend family events anymore and instead focus on friendships we’ve made with parents who have similar age children. We find that’s worked out much better for us and DS.

Zorrocat · 02/05/2025 04:05

I am in the exact situation you are and I sympathize with you 100%. I am the oldest of three daughters. I am 65, never married, no children. This is not by choice, I’ve had a lot of past heartache and bad luck, never found the right man. My sisters’ kids are older now, and some of my cousins’ kids are having babies of
their own. It’s just a matter of time before my sisters become grandparents, too.
The family gatherings are all about the babies. That’s the only thing that matters. No one ever asks what is new with me or
how I am. It’s tiring, but, it is even more sad, as it brings up emotions of heartache and things not working out, and that I am alone. I have a lot of friends and manage to keep busy, but family gatherings are hard. In fact, many years ago one Christmas, my sister’s drunk husband took me aside and said, “You’re gay, aren’t you. You have to be because you never bring any men over to Christmas or Thanksgiving.” This struck a nerve and I was so hurt because, he was drunk and mean. Not only that, he has no idea how much I would have liked to get married and have a child. I replied that, no, I don’t happen to be gay; but, even if I was, what does it matter? He kept insisting that I was gay and that I could confide in him that I was.

I will never forget how hurt I was by this, especially at Christmas. This guy is a jerk, I wish my sister would divorce him.

ThatNimblePeer · 22/04/2025 22:27

OP I think you should feel really good about the fact that you’ve communicated your feelings directly to your mum and sister, that shows you’re good at relationships and you’ll be in a good place if you do get in a romantic one. It’s disappointing they haven’t been more responsive but that’s their responsibility, not yours. Without disengaging from individual family relationships, I wonder if it is time to disengage a bit from the overall family dynamic for a month or two and focus on what you can do in the next few years to make your life as good as it can be, partner or no partner, kids or no kids.

If kids are something you really want, is freezing your eggs an option? Solo parenting as some have suggested on here? Adoption? Is it worth researching those options, the pros and cons, and making a plan about what you feel would work for you (including none of those options if they’re not right, but it might be worth researching?) And/or really focus on planning the kind of aunt you’re going to want to be to your nephews and nieces?

Re finding a partner, are you going out as much as you can, saying yes to as many social things as you can, and hitting the dating apps as hard as you can?

Separate from both those things, are there other things you can do to make your life as good as it can be? Promotion at work? Sort out pension/finances? Declutter? Making your home environment lovely? Pet? Travel plans? Fitness goals? New sports? Stuff that makes you feel excited for the months and years ahead? If you don’t have them already, I do think looking out for some female friends in similar situations might help, and then it’s not that you need to disengage from your family, but you will have other dynamics you can key into that feel more engaged with what’s going on with you.

You may well be doing all of this already, but given that you’ve been proactive on the family front, I think the ball is in their court a bit, and maybe it’s time to be proactive about stuff that’s more focused on you.

Ilovecleaning · 22/04/2025 20:32

Sundaycoffee · 21/04/2025 15:33

Would you expect something more? It seems a bit pointless articulating how I feel just to get a response like that. It hasn't brought any resolution and it's probably made me feel slightly worse than before if anything!

I’d expect more. If my sister sent me a message like that I’d want to hear more about it, how she felt, try to help etc. I’d also modify my behaviour and conversation at the next family gathering.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/04/2025 10:02

RecycleCycle · 20/04/2025 20:23

I get it OP but you may be surprised to find I get it from the angle of having had a kid versus two siblings without children (who definitely will not have them). My parents love their grandchild but definitely always favoured my siblings and it’s been a long time since they were parents to young children, so they are done with it all.

So everyone sits with lovely meals in front of them, talking adult conversation while I am running all over the place maybe having swallowed quickly one bite, chasing my kid around. Always wishing someone would lend a hand so I could sit and join the adult conversation, and eat and talk for five minutes peacefully.

I am also the black sheep! I am thinking to step away myself.

Do you have a partner? Could they take the kids (either at the event or don't bring kids to the event) so you can catch up with family?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/04/2025 10:00

Ps op if you ever consider being a solo mum by choice find out if your family would support you with this.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/04/2025 09:59

Your mums Mother's Day post was very insensitive to exclude you.

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