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M&S changing rooms

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SweetChilliGirl · 20/04/2025 10:43

Was I unreasonable to send this to M&S?

Good morning,

Having not shopped for lingerie with you for several years, due to your policy of allowing trans-identifying men into the women's changing rooms, can I now be assured that, in line with the judgement of the supreme court males will no longer be allowed to identify their way into your single sex changing rooms, thus preserving biological women's dignity and safety? I would very much like to be able to shop with you again.

I look forward to hearing from to to clarify this important matter.

Regards,

Sweetchilligirl

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Annascaul · 21/04/2025 21:12

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 21:11

You may not identify as one but you're doing a grand job for them!

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Isn’t she just!

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 21:11

Didimum · 21/04/2025 21:09

I simply wondered because I haven’t encountered it before. Sheer curiosity.

I am not a trans rights activist.

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You may not identify as one but you're doing a grand job for them!

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 21:09

JHound · 21/04/2025 20:32

The SC ruling doesn’t force M&S to have single sex changing rooms does it?

If I had an issue with a store’s policy on changing facilities I just would shop elsewhere.

Time will tell. An organisation the size of M&S is likely to be indirectly discriminating against women if it doesn't.

Men will have 2 options, women who can't be in spaces where men are present have none.

That's not equality.

Didimum · 21/04/2025 21:09

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 21:06

Yet another argument straight from the Trans Rights Activist playbook.

Yes there's normally a notice outside.

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I simply wondered because I haven’t encountered it before. Sheer curiosity.

I am not a trans rights activist.

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 21:08

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 21/04/2025 20:30

Oh for goodness sake, it was a genuine question. Are you just looking for a fight, any fight? 🙄

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no I'm asking how many women and girls is it acceptable to be assualted in women's single sex changing rooms before you put women and girls first?

It's a valid question?

Why won't you answer it?

Didimum · 21/04/2025 21:08

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 21:05

so will you say ANYTHING in support of the girls in this scenario because your posts are extremely one sided?

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It is necessary to the discussion or do you simply want me to? Please do quote where they have been ‘one sided’ (meaning they are supportive of one side, I gather?). I would describe them as neutral.

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 21:06

Didimum · 21/04/2025 20:58

Do they declare it like when a women’s toilet has a male attendant cleaning?

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Yet another argument straight from the Trans Rights Activist playbook.

Yes there's normally a notice outside.

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 21:05

Didimum · 21/04/2025 20:29

Once again, please quote where I have defended the erosion of women’s rights, because that’s fictitious.

I have discussed scenarios of challenge between two opposing groups.

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so will you say ANYTHING in support of the girls in this scenario because your posts are extremely one sided?

Didimum · 21/04/2025 21:03

JandamiHash · 21/04/2025 20:59

No need. Most people have eyes in their head

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Business put up the signs to be courteous to alert that men will be cleaning women’s toilets. It’s reasonable to ask of this is the case when a male attends a women’s changing room. It’s simply a question.

JandamiHash · 21/04/2025 20:59

Didimum · 21/04/2025 20:58

Do they declare it like when a women’s toilet has a male attendant cleaning?

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No need. Most people have eyes in their head

Didimum · 21/04/2025 20:58

StScholastica · 21/04/2025 20:54

Ours has a translady "manning" (so to speak) the changing rooms.😳.

Do they declare it like when a women’s toilet has a male attendant cleaning?

JandamiHash · 21/04/2025 20:58

JHound · 21/04/2025 20:32

The SC ruling doesn’t force M&S to have single sex changing rooms does it?

If I had an issue with a store’s policy on changing facilities I just would shop elsewhere.

It doesn’t no but we can expect that if it DOES have women’s only, we can expect not to see men in there. If they choose to go with unisex only, those of us with no desire to share a space with men can actively choose to avoid it

Annascaul · 21/04/2025 20:56

StScholastica · 21/04/2025 20:54

Ours has a translady "manning" (so to speak) the changing rooms.😳.

Jesus.

StScholastica · 21/04/2025 20:54

Ours has a translady "manning" (so to speak) the changing rooms.😳.

JandamiHash · 21/04/2025 20:50

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 21/04/2025 20:28

Bloody hell. That's terrifying, I had no idea. Is that uk wide?

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It is yes. And yes very worrying

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 21/04/2025 20:48

Didimum · 21/04/2025 20:32

The aggression is rather tiresome, isn’t it?

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Isn't it just 🙄. Tiresome is the word!!

WearyAuldWumman · 21/04/2025 20:47

WearyAuldWumman · 21/04/2025 20:18

There are also reports of sexual assaults in a gender neutral toilet in a secondary school in Essex - no word of the name of the school, however.

ETA The Essex attacker is said to be a boy. The Harrison High attacker is described as 'trans' in news reports.

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Apologies.

I confused two US cases. The attacker is described as 'trans' or 'the boy in a skirt' in the Loudon County cases. He's accused of sexual assaults in two high schools and rape at Stone Bridge High School.

Part of the reason for my getting mixed up is that the defence case for both alleged attackers is that sex was 'consensual'.

So - for clarification - in the US there have been three attacks by two separate people and only two of the attacks have been attributed to a trans identified male.

JHound · 21/04/2025 20:32

The SC ruling doesn’t force M&S to have single sex changing rooms does it?

If I had an issue with a store’s policy on changing facilities I just would shop elsewhere.

Didimum · 21/04/2025 20:32

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 21/04/2025 20:30

Oh for goodness sake, it was a genuine question. Are you just looking for a fight, any fight? 🙄

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The aggression is rather tiresome, isn’t it?

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 21/04/2025 20:30

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 20:06

How many women have to be for you to care?

Mine is zero.

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Oh for goodness sake, it was a genuine question. Are you just looking for a fight, any fight? 🙄

Didimum · 21/04/2025 20:29

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 20:22

There are also reports of girls not drinking in school to avoid having to use toilets or girls skipping school altogether when on their periods because they don't want to use mixed sex toilets.

Can anyone, maybe Didimum tell me how girls and women benefit from the loss of single sex spaces to male people?

I can't for the life of me understand how anyone is defending the erosion of women's rights?

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Once again, please quote where I have defended the erosion of women’s rights, because that’s fictitious.

I have discussed scenarios of challenge between two opposing groups.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 21/04/2025 20:28

JandamiHash · 21/04/2025 20:07

Latest stats are 2017-18 and were 134 assaults

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Bloody hell. That's terrifying, I had no idea. Is that uk wide?

lifeturnsonadime · 21/04/2025 20:22

There are also reports of girls not drinking in school to avoid having to use toilets or girls skipping school altogether when on their periods because they don't want to use mixed sex toilets.

Can anyone, maybe Didimum tell me how girls and women benefit from the loss of single sex spaces to male people?

I can't for the life of me understand how anyone is defending the erosion of women's rights?

WearyAuldWumman · 21/04/2025 20:18

WearyAuldWumman · 21/04/2025 20:15

A rape and other assaults were reported to have taken place at Harrison High, Cobb County, US for one.

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There are also reports of sexual assaults in a gender neutral toilet in a secondary school in Essex - no word of the name of the school, however.

ETA The Essex attacker is said to be a boy. The Harrison High attacker is described as 'trans' in news reports.

WearyAuldWumman · 21/04/2025 20:15

CJsGoldfish · 20/04/2025 15:08

Which school is that?

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A rape and other assaults were reported to have taken place at Harrison High, Cobb County, US for one.