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To not go on the holiday?

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Onetimesconesmine · 20/04/2025 10:35

In a nutshell, I'm with an avoidant partner. I'm an anxious person and I do recognise that my traits aren't great, but honestly the avoidance is probably the main cause of my anxious behaviour.

Any time I try to bring anything up it's 'not the right time' to talk. There has never been a right time. It's been ongoing for 2 years now.

We are meant to be going away on Tuesday for a week. We have been niggling at each other a bit recently so I wanted to just clear the air before we go. To say new leaf, let's enjoy ourselves etc etc.

Even when I walk on egg shells in order to approach the conversation with tact and caution, he sees it as an attack. I said nothing about HIM or pointing any fingers, I was clear that we both probably need to do better with each other.

It turns in to him shouting at me, storming out the room to sleep on the sofa.
I said please can you come back to bed, let's just have a cuddle and be okay.
He tells me to leave him alone, he needs space. Out the duvet over his face and just shuts off, doesn't respond to me.
I know I should have left it but because of my anxiousness this is really upsetting to me so I asked how long he'd need space for as I wouldn't be able to sleep now.
He tells me to just fucking listen, go away and leave him alone.

I know avoidants process things differently and need time and space. But I cannot fathom seeing your partner crying asking you to come to bed, and you tell them to basically fuck off.

He's still not up yet, and obviously I've barely slept. We were meant to spend today getting everything sorted for the holiday.
I'm tempted to not go. I don't feel safe emotionally and I know I'm going to be hyper sensitive over the next week or so, as I often am after an argument.

Just for transparency, we don't live together or have children together (although there are children involved from previous relationship - they were not in the house at the time so not subject to the shouting).

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Starling7 · 20/04/2025 11:13

I would say, rather than an avoidant / anxious dynamic, you have a narcissist / codependent relationship. Narcissists enjoy manipulating codependents - there is no solution, he's doing it for the power, for fun.

Candles88 · 20/04/2025 11:13

Oh no, don’t go. I think with bad relationships there just comes a point when you suddenly realise you don’t want to do it anymore, and it sounds like you might be there. He sounds very stressful to be around.

Cucy · 20/04/2025 11:12

Honestly it sounds like you’re the one spoiling for an argument.

He’s asked that you give him space, yet you’re still following him and questioning him.
This would make me ill and I would absolutely shout at someone for not respecting my boundaries.

Leave him alone.

Why can’t you just draw a line in the sand and look forward to going on holiday.
Why does it have to be a big deal?

Honestly OP it’s great that you recognise that you have issues but you also need to recognise that you are probably the problem here and that this relationship just doesn’t work.

You say you have an anxious attachment style.
This would get a lot better if you weren’t with this man who is just not suitable for you.

You are making each other miserable and you’ll likely both end up getting ill.

BlondeFool · 20/04/2025 11:11

Avoidant is bollocks. He’s an abusive bully. He sounds horrendous. If you don’t live together or have joint kids, it’s the perfect time to walk away.

IhadaStripeyDeckchair · 20/04/2025 11:11

Your partner isn't avoidant, he's emotionally abusive.

Leave him.
Relationships are supposed to add to your life, to improve it, to make it better.
You say you're walking round on eggshells and anxious. I bet you'd feel more confident and happier single.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 20/04/2025 11:11

I’d deff not go. You talk about him being an ‘avoidant’ like it’s some sort of ND thing, and it isn’t, he’s just an arsehole. He doesn’t give a crap about your personality type needing reassurance and good communication, so it’s pointless trying to pander to his personality type because he’s not interested in working with you anyway. He isn’t giving you what you need, he is the problem here OP.

Walkerzoo · 20/04/2025 11:10

Get out now before you are living together or have kids

A holiday is never worth selling your soul for. Enjoy your week with people who deserve your time

Tameys · 20/04/2025 11:09

This is a controlling, manipulative and highly abusive relationship.

You need to get out of it asap.
You need to protect your children from this angry toxic abusive pig.

You desperately need to do the www.freedomprogramme.co.uk and to read up on the boiled frog analogy.

Why have you tolerated this for two years?
He is a walking red flag.

Starling7 · 20/04/2025 11:09

I had a relationship with someone like this. It just gets worse. Get out now before he does you more damage. Enjoy your holiday alone. Single life is so much better. Trust me. X

DuckEgg24 · 20/04/2025 11:08

beetr00 · 20/04/2025 11:05

@Onetimesconesmine @Onetimesconesmine @Onetimesconesmine

Using labels, " anxious/avoidant" excuses rubbish behaviour.

Be honest with yourself, this guy is an rshole!

Walking on eggshells, within a relationship, is NEVER right.

There is no need to apologise nor take the blame.

You pluck up the strength to walk away by acknowledging, to yourself,
YOU DESERVE BETTER

Before him, you lived your life, as you wanted.

Please, try not to waste, anymore of your days with someone who cannot see just how fabulous YOU ARE

(apologies for the bolds and caps, it's just that these men, who tie up, some women in knots, do not deserve the goddamn head space)

Good luck @Onetimesconesmine

This!

DuckEgg24 · 20/04/2025 11:07

Onetimesconesmine · 20/04/2025 10:54

You're all so lovely, thank you.
I honestly thought I'd get some stick for following him when he stormed off, and not just giving him the space he said he needed.
I start thinking I'm the problem for wanting to communicate.

When he finally gets up (what he's doing I have no idea), I will tell him I'm not going away. His reaction will tell me everything I need to know in regards to whether there is anything worth working on when he's back or not.

I don't think he'd ever expect me to not go. I am always the one who's there wanting to make things work, so I suspect it'll come as quite a shock.

He clearly and rudely stated he needs space, so calmly tell him you’re giving him the space he asked for. Go back to your own place and start looking up last minute deals. That’s what I’d do in your position. No pleading, arguing, bargaining. He’s paid for most of the holiday, so he can have all the space he wants. Space Cowboy by Kacey Musgraves should be on repeat as you pack for your solo trip.

beetr00 · 20/04/2025 11:05

Onetimesconesmine · 20/04/2025 10:49

This is exactly it. Everything is an attack in his mind. Even if I was to apologise and take the blame for something I'd done wrong, he would somehow think I was attacking him. The defensiveness is on another level, and he always responds with anger.
I do sometimes wonder if he could be void of empathy all together.
How did you finally pluck up the strength to walk away? Did you ever regret your decision?

@Onetimesconesmine @Onetimesconesmine @Onetimesconesmine

Using labels, " anxious/avoidant" excuses rubbish behaviour.

Be honest with yourself, this guy is an rshole!

Walking on eggshells, within a relationship, is NEVER right.

There is no need to apologise nor take the blame.

You pluck up the strength to walk away by acknowledging, to yourself,
YOU DESERVE BETTER

Before him, you lived your life, as you wanted.

Please, try not to waste, anymore of your days with someone who cannot see just how fabulous YOU ARE

(apologies for the bolds and caps, it's just that these men, who tie up, some women in knots, do not deserve the goddamn head space)

Good luck @Onetimesconesmine

Lurkingandlearning · 20/04/2025 11:05

How did you finally pluck up the strength to walk away?
There isn’t a single quick fix for that, but it begins with the belief that the relationship is not right for you and that you deserve to be happy. That your life, the only life you have, matters. Once you take that on board, the courage you need to end it is closer to hand.
Did you ever regret your decision? I think you know it’s unlikely anyone will regret leaving a relationship that made them unhappy. Initially, the strangeness of being single might be uncomfortable but the relief from the stress will soon override that.

Tell him to go on the holiday without you. Use that time to have a holiday of your own, either booked or just days out exploring things you enjoy.

Then end it. No one deserves to be with someone who hides under a duvet rather than have an adult conversation

S0j0urn4r · 20/04/2025 10:56

Taxi!

Iamaverysillyperson · 20/04/2025 10:56

Sounds like an unhappy relationship: he feels attacked; you feel as though you are walking on eggshells.
It's not healthy.

ilovesooty · 20/04/2025 10:54

shellyleppard · 20/04/2025 10:51

@Onetimesconesmine I'd let him go on the holiday by himself. While he's gone find somewhere else to live and call it off. Walking on eggshells around your partner is no life for anyone. You deserve so much better 🥰

She says they don't live together. However I agree she'd be happier without him.

Find somewhere to go on holiday by yourself and get rid of him.

Onetimesconesmine · 20/04/2025 10:54

You're all so lovely, thank you.
I honestly thought I'd get some stick for following him when he stormed off, and not just giving him the space he said he needed.
I start thinking I'm the problem for wanting to communicate.

When he finally gets up (what he's doing I have no idea), I will tell him I'm not going away. His reaction will tell me everything I need to know in regards to whether there is anything worth working on when he's back or not.

I don't think he'd ever expect me to not go. I am always the one who's there wanting to make things work, so I suspect it'll come as quite a shock.

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ThinWomansBrain · 20/04/2025 10:54

Don't go on holiday with twatface
stay home, enjoy the time and clear all vestiges of the idiot out of your home.

shellyleppard · 20/04/2025 10:51

@Onetimesconesmine I'd let him go on the holiday by himself. While he's gone find somewhere else to live and call it off. Walking on eggshells around your partner is no life for anyone. You deserve so much better 🥰

DuckEgg24 · 20/04/2025 10:50

Hoydenish · 20/04/2025 10:48

He's just a horrible bully, all this bobbins about 'avoidant' is a cover for awful behaviour towards you.

I would advise you to not go on holiday with him. I know it is money down the gurgler but in another it is a decent price to pay to get yourself sorted and settled back into your own place, without him sulking and dissing you as you pack your toothbrush and hairdryer.

I agree with all the above.

DuckEgg24 · 20/04/2025 10:49

Book yourself somewhere and enjoy yourself.

Onetimesconesmine · 20/04/2025 10:49

HeatedBlanketAllYear · 20/04/2025 10:46

I feel your pain. My ex behaved like this, and worse. In the end there was nothing I could do as the problem was with him and would never see his behaviour as a problem. The way he processed conversations and always assumed the worst, never listening to what was actually said. Everything was a trigger to either ghost or gaslight me and it was exhausting. I tried bringing things up sensitively, not bringing them up, people pleasing (which never works) and treading on eggshells all the time to the extent that there was always an atmosphere.
In the end the only thing to do was to leave. I think this is where you are now. It won’t get better. You do have to go, there’s no coming back from this behaviour.

This is exactly it. Everything is an attack in his mind. Even if I was to apologise and take the blame for something I'd done wrong, he would somehow think I was attacking him. The defensiveness is on another level, and he always responds with anger.
I do sometimes wonder if he could be void of empathy all together.
How did you finally pluck up the strength to walk away? Did you ever regret your decision?

OP posts:
Hoydenish · 20/04/2025 10:48

He's just a horrible bully, all this bobbins about 'avoidant' is a cover for awful behaviour towards you.

I would advise you to not go on holiday with him. I know it is money down the gurgler but in another it is a decent price to pay to get yourself sorted and settled back into your own place, without him sulking and dissing you as you pack your toothbrush and hairdryer.

HeatedBlanketAllYear · 20/04/2025 10:46

I feel your pain. My ex behaved like this, and worse. In the end there was nothing I could do as the problem was with him and would never see his behaviour as a problem. The way he processed conversations and always assumed the worst, never listening to what was actually said. Everything was a trigger to either ghost or gaslight me and it was exhausting. I tried bringing things up sensitively, not bringing them up, people pleasing (which never works) and treading on eggshells all the time to the extent that there was always an atmosphere.
In the end the only thing to do was to leave. I think this is where you are now. It won’t get better. You do have to go, there’s no coming back from this behaviour.

Eenameenadeeka · 20/04/2025 10:45

This sounds very sad and not at all healthy. Definitely think you should take your own holiday without him (even if that's booking something else) and end the relationship.

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