Should the police be arresting people carrying placards that encourage the hanging, burning or mutilating of Terfs ie women ??

What are they then?

Not a subculture. Not a sexuality. A doctrine?

Oh they don’t want to be any old run of the mill boring woman, we’re mostly doing it wrong, they want to be a special woman. They know how to do it best after all.

In any other situation they’d be looking at a prison sentence for inciting violence.

But for some reason, they get a free pass.

My point is that the police are regarding it as a hate crime.

And that, while reprehensible criminal vandalism and upsetting for people, doesn’t sound like it was threatening physical harm to anyone from what’s reported. The lettering shown looks like it might be the same person who has daubed bridges on the M6 with various anti religious slogans - iirc things something like ‘religion is the Antichrist’ and ‘3004 religions and none of them are right’ - attacking religion rather than religious people.

"at least all the trans people just use the disabled loo so nobody is inconvenienced either way"

WTAF. Do disabled people not count in your world? They ARE inconveniencing disabled people, thanks, by putting further pressure on scant resources for people who actually need them.

Where are these placard waving TA’s? they are a tiny minority at most, every trans person I know is just quietly getting on with life, some you won’t even realise are trans, others (usually those m-f who transitioned later) do look like a bloke in a skirt but nobody cares if they want to look slightly ridiculous (not that I would say that to their faces) and here at least all the trans people just use the disabled loo so nobody is inconvenienced either way). Of course if you pass for the other sex and don’t make a fuss you wouldn’t even realise that you have encountered a trans person.

we live a very liberal area, live and let live but equally it’s a non confrontational environment where you respect each other including at the pool where they have 3 changing areas, male (open) female (open) and mixed (cubicles) all those including children of the opposite sex are respectfully asked to used mixed changing!

Can't they see that they are doing a fundamental disservice to their Trans community by making everyone think all TW are TAs?

This is spot on. 20 years ago I knew of two transwomen, quietly getting on with their lives with none of this noise around them. I no longer know them but I wonder whether their lives are better or worse from the recent activism and spotlight. Genuinely wonder, like were they put out by using a male bathroom or had they not thought much about it before all the media attention? Do they feel more or less at risk walking down the street?

Back then, everyone just used the name the person had chosen to live by and the associated pronoun e.g. Sandra would be referred to as her/she, and everyone pretended not to notice that Sandra had a 5 oclock shadow and used the mens toilets. Now I wonder if Sandra feels compelled to use a pronoun email signature and a third space toilet and if that really makes her feel more or less accepted. I don't remember the older generation transgender women making this noise and interestingly at my husbands work, an older transwoman has stayed well away from all the noise and groups. I wonder if it's a case of nit wanting to single herself out or whether she's embarrassed by it all and doesn't want people to think she wants the "right" to single sex spaces.

I do feel extremely sorry for the Transcommunity that want to live peacefully and never wanted any of this.

The trans activists have been behaving this way for years.

They really don't like women who say no to men.

Someone described it as being like the period of time after an abusive relationship end, which is when aggressive men are even more dangerous. These men were told NO in the highest court in the land. They're extremely angry.

They were threatening a massive 'pissing event' outside the houses of Parliament, which is not something most 'non- trans' women would do.

So agree with you too.

These TAs are deeply, deeply stupid but deeply, deeply nasty too.

These people don't want equality, they want domination.

The police are controlled by the home office who won’t allow it so direct the hate to the home office.

I have just sent a complaint to the national television channel in a Scandinavian country because they "forgot" to include photos of the posters threatening women in their coverage of the demonstration. It is deeply manipulative to paint it as a peaceful demonstration. At least one reporter got assaulted.

I will encourage you all to complain to every single newspaper, which " forgets" to include the nasty parts of the trans activism.

I don’t agree with much that Trump says but the public services have been absolutely brainwashed to believe these people are untouchable.
We have one going through HR at the moment where I work who has abused his position of Power as a man so he’s naturally decided to transition into a woman.

He’s wearing a bit of mascara and a pink scarf so, obviously he couldn’t have inappropriately formed a relationship with a student. And the thing is, it will probably work.

Remember the far right protests when the thing that finally stopped them was massive counter protests?

Which would be a great option, if women were not genuinely fearful for their safety by doing so. And they know this.

Absolutely agree

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"This is really changing my view on trans people"

Completely agree.

Oh they can do it better obviously.

They really are harming their own cause. They are actually showing why women are rightly scared of these people. Some of them are terrifying

I'm really baffled at how people supporting trans people think this type of violence or promotion of violence towards women will help.

Anybody will a placard with promotion of violence should be arrested.

Where are the police?

This is really changing my view on trans people.

Of course it should be treated as a hate crime.

It's awful, but not surprising that it isn't.

As for the BBC, colour me shocked they've been right up there with all of the other organisations who supported the men over this issue.

It might not be crime as mysogenists - isn’t it a crime as terrorism?

has anyone made a formal complaint?

Yes good question yanbu

The thing is, I don't 'hate' most of the TW I come across. It's just these nasty, deeply malicious,misogynistic TAs waving hate speech banners. Can't they see that they are doing a fundamental disservice to their Trans community by making everyone think all TW are TAs? They are the ones creating mistrust and fear in others.

TW talk of being scared and frightened, of what, I wonder? I can't help thinking it's BECAUSE of violent, vociferous TAs intimidating women, and women, rightfully resenting the whole community because of the nefarious actions of these people.

Of course women are now going to be distrustful and resentful of TW; we don't know if you are just trying to go about your life as a bloke in a dress, or you are going to be generally violent to women, carrying placards calling for hanging or burning, intimidation tactics, hate speech.

I think the BBC should have run the story.