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Should the police be arresting people carrying placards that encourage the hanging, burning or mutilating of Terfs ie women ??

109 replies

loveyouradvice · 19/04/2025 23:22

I thought that there were limits to what we could advocate... and that people carrying anti-semite placards (for example) in the Pro Palestine marches were arrested?

Surely there must be some protection from the incitement of violence that is happening on these trans rights marches?

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Withoutfearorfavour · 20/04/2025 17:29

Sharptonguedwoman · 20/04/2025 17:26

I think they want to be a sort of parody of a woman. Pictures show ridiculous costumes, fishnets, short skirts, pigtails, pantomime dame. Not real women at all in their everyday jeans and jumpers.

Isn’t that a transvestite not a transsexual?

Sharptonguedwoman · 20/04/2025 17:26

Silvertulips · 19/04/2025 23:24

You would think so but it's misogyny innit and women count for nothing it seems

So why do so many men what to be one?

I think they want to be a sort of parody of a woman. Pictures show ridiculous costumes, fishnets, short skirts, pigtails, pantomime dame. Not real women at all in their everyday jeans and jumpers.

ImConfusedDotComHelp · 20/04/2025 17:16

The Metropolitan Police said it had launched an investigation after several statues were vandalised and it was investigating the incidents as criminal damage.

Chief Superintendent Stuart Bell said it was "very disappointing to see damage to seven statues and property in the vicinity of the protest", adding: "We support the public's right to protest but criminality like this is completely unacceptable.

"We are now investigating this criminal damage and urge anyone with any information to come forward."

Let's hope someone provides evidence or are those protesters happy with crime committed in their names?

ImConfusedDotComHelp · 20/04/2025 17:14

Does anyone know if any arrests were made by the carriers of hate filled signs?

BiologicalRobot · 20/04/2025 12:05

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/04/2025 10:27

Have you considered the logistics here?

you know the police and courts are massively underfunded and have huge backlogs.

so to arrest, process, charge, file to the cps and bring to court every single one of these placard holders, and fast track them past existing cases would mean they go in front of rape, murder, stalking, robbery etc.

fairly sure Keir as a barrister will be aware of this.

it may have been done for the riots but that was nowhere near the scale, plus it did result in real violence.

to prosecute these people you’d have to prove they actually intended to do what their placards say, or to persuade other people to do so. That bar is going to be a high one.

so as I said leave them be, in public, showing what kind of person they are and what women are facing. The hypocrisy of them being allowed free speech yet threatening women who dare to exercise the same rights. Start arresting them for them to be nfa’d and it’ll just make them into martyrs.

there was a thing a while ago, can’t remember the cause, but the aim was to get themselves all arrested, clog up the police and the courts, and then take to social media when they were inevitably released, with “see, we’re just being harassed and unjustly accused”

Starmer managed it for the rioters/instigators. He even released prisoners early to make room for them.

The police managed to send EIGHT officers to a couple based on a WhatsApp moan about their dcs school.

They arrest people over Internet posts saying TW are not women.

They have the manpower and resources and the will when they want. They just don't want to.

Kay2000 · 20/04/2025 11:36

I’ve been involved with this issue for a few years now and have seen numerous incidents of violence and aggression towards women completely ignored by the police, who have been brainwashed by Stonewall. I think this is the most dangerous period, they’re very angry at having what they think are rights taken away, as they’re too stupid to realise, or have been misinformed that those rights were never theirs in the first place. I have a small degree of sympathy for the original “transsexuals” trying to get on quietly in the life they’ve had for 30 years. However I don’t see any of them calling for the end of violence towards women, or the end of dragging children into what has become effectively a cult. The “trans community” brought this on themselves, not by campaigning for trans rights and trans spaces, but demanding and getting self-id and women’s rights for themselves (and vice versa for trans identifying women, who did not exist 30 years ago).

For anyone new to this issue, I recommend Trans by Helen Joyce, who explains how we’ve got to this point.

Whooowhooohoo · 20/04/2025 11:08

Ilovetowander · 20/04/2025 08:02

Absolutely the police should be acting, the appalling vandalism shown yesterday is unacceptable and illustrates I hope to everyone the aggressive nature of this group. They have silenced the majority with their phobic, bullying and discriminatory allegations which is ironic as they are the ones bullying and denying others their viewpoint.

Just build third gender neutral toilets for those that want to use them.

Rather money spent on “everyone else” change rooms and toilets than on endless legal battles where lawyers try to change facts about what defines a female human: Chromosomes, not lack of penis.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 20/04/2025 10:52

They’re just a different face of the Andrew Tate incel mob.

IthasYes · 20/04/2025 10:41

Womens main attacker is men. All of this encourages violence against women they absolutely should be arrested

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 20/04/2025 10:40

Can’t be said enough 👆

THIS IS WHY WE WANT MEN OUT OF OUR SPACES.

Look how they behave when they hear the word NO. They don’t want to be told what to do when it comes to women’s spaces.

EasternStandard · 20/04/2025 10:30

IthasYes · 20/04/2025 10:24

your jealous my dicks bigger than your bf and my tits are bigger than yours

Another placard from timid sweet scared trans people frightened of being made to use the correct loo.

Yes they need to be arrested.

Male aggression and violence.

Yes we’ll take single sex spaces thanks.

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/04/2025 10:27

BiologicalRobot · 20/04/2025 00:01

I'm waiting for Starmer to insist the police do their job and for the courts to fast track them with harsh punishments. I mean he manged to do it for the riots so surely he can manage it for this.

🤔

Have you considered the logistics here?

you know the police and courts are massively underfunded and have huge backlogs.

so to arrest, process, charge, file to the cps and bring to court every single one of these placard holders, and fast track them past existing cases would mean they go in front of rape, murder, stalking, robbery etc.

fairly sure Keir as a barrister will be aware of this.

it may have been done for the riots but that was nowhere near the scale, plus it did result in real violence.

to prosecute these people you’d have to prove they actually intended to do what their placards say, or to persuade other people to do so. That bar is going to be a high one.

so as I said leave them be, in public, showing what kind of person they are and what women are facing. The hypocrisy of them being allowed free speech yet threatening women who dare to exercise the same rights. Start arresting them for them to be nfa’d and it’ll just make them into martyrs.

there was a thing a while ago, can’t remember the cause, but the aim was to get themselves all arrested, clog up the police and the courts, and then take to social media when they were inevitably released, with “see, we’re just being harassed and unjustly accused”

IthasYes · 20/04/2025 10:25

We know starmer view anyway after Jane tackled him and the way he dealt with Rosie.

IthasYes · 20/04/2025 10:24

your jealous my dicks bigger than your bf and my tits are bigger than yours

Another placard from timid sweet scared trans people frightened of being made to use the correct loo.

Yes they need to be arrested.

TheOriginalEmu · 20/04/2025 10:23

TERFs are not a protected group though are they? You don’t have to be female to be a TERF.
I don’t think anyone should be making signs advocating for physical assault, obviously, and those who do that should be punished. But let’s not pretend that Terf= woman. That’s naive at best and disingenuous at worst.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/04/2025 10:14

BiologicalRobot · 20/04/2025 00:01

I'm waiting for Starmer to insist the police do their job and for the courts to fast track them with harsh punishments. I mean he manged to do it for the riots so surely he can manage it for this.

🤔

Starmer is alas as weak as water.

KimberleyClark · 20/04/2025 10:10

Slothtoes · 20/04/2025 08:17

this is domestic terrorism surely?

In UK law, terrorism is defined as a violent act which

  • Endangers a person’s life, other than that of the person committing the action
  • Involves serious violence against a person
  • Causes serious damage to property
  • Creates a serious risk to the public’s health and safety
  • Interferes with or seriously disrupts an electronic system

Carrying placards encouraging violence against terms would probably constitute extremism, not terrorism.

EasternStandard · 20/04/2025 10:07

The amount of people, including some women, who go on about ‘both sides’ re aggression really needs to end.

We say no we don’t consent, FWS goes to the Supreme Court, they sing when they win.

We don’t use violence as men do.

Naunet · 20/04/2025 10:02

minnienono · 20/04/2025 09:07

Where are these placard waving TA’s? they are a tiny minority at most, every trans person I know is just quietly getting on with life, some you won’t even realise are trans, others (usually those m-f who transitioned later) do look like a bloke in a skirt but nobody cares if they want to look slightly ridiculous (not that I would say that to their faces) and here at least all the trans people just use the disabled loo so nobody is inconvenienced either way). Of course if you pass for the other sex and don’t make a fuss you wouldn’t even realise that you have encountered a trans person.

we live a very liberal area, live and let live but equally it’s a non confrontational environment where you respect each other including at the pool where they have 3 changing areas, male (open) female (open) and mixed (cubicles) all those including children of the opposite sex are respectfully asked to used mixed changing!

"'Don't believe what you've just seen with your own eyes'...

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 20/04/2025 10:01

BundleBoogie · 19/04/2025 23:32

Apparently women don’t enjoy the same levels of protection from the police as the special people.

Same reason we’re not covered by the hate crime law but in Scotland even men dressed up as women (on a stag do for example) are specifically protected from ‘hate crimes’ .

I’ve mentioned this on threads elsewhere tonight but women in prison getting sexually harassed or assaulted by the male criminals placed in their prisons (the a high rate of being sex offenders) get punished for complaining about sexual assault.

Many in authority must really hate us.

On the plus side, at least British Transport Police have updated their policy to say that men with a female GRC can no longer strip search women. I’m not sure if any other police force have changed their policy in this to be in line with the actual law but we can be thankful for small mercies.

My local force have always had the biological sex can only intimately search the same sex policy.

so no need to change it.

re. The signs, personally let them crack on. I’d rather they were there showing their true hateful colours than be silenced, and people start thinking that kind of hate doesn’t exist.

Naunet · 20/04/2025 09:57

You're absolutely right OP, its disgusting and I've lost any last shred of sympathy I had for them, vile, woman hating, male supremacists.

Zebedee999 · 20/04/2025 09:45

IAteAllTheChurros · 19/04/2025 23:26

I thought sex/gender was a protected characteristic, so why aren't these placards being classed as hate speech against women ? It's appalling the double standards that are held over this kind of thing.

It will depend how Starmer views it. Hundreds sent to prison last summer for expressing their views on migrants as Starmer wants migrants (even though statistics show certain groups of these cause excess sexual violence against women). But Starmer has never been on the side of women so expect a free pass on those protesting recently against women.

ihmysrn · 20/04/2025 09:38

Felinnefine · 20/04/2025 09:33

What are they then?

Not a subculture. Not a sexuality. A doctrine?

Mental health illness.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/04/2025 09:37

OctopusFriend · 20/04/2025 09:22

My point is that the police are regarding it as a hate crime.

Yes, I know. Criminal damage (I assume that’s the crime part) because someone hates god/religion vs incitement to harm actual people - doesn’t stack up to me either.

The hate crimes legislation doesn’t map properly to protected characteristics defined in the Equality act.
It relates

  • race or ethnicity
  • religion
  • sexual orientation
  • disability
  • transgender identity

Apart from the glaring omission of sex, it also omits age and replaces ‘religion or belief’ merely by ‘religion’. If it adhered to the same terms as the equality act then incitement to violence against ‘TERFs’ could be seen as a hate crime on that ground too.