Suicide rates and being spoken out of existence

Tell me you're not a therapist without using the words:

"I am not and never have been a therapist. "

What sort of therapist training did you have op? Were you trained that telling your clients they were being spoken out of existence and that people hated them was healthy?

Or Frank ‘Kellie’ Malonie who throttled his wife in front of his two young daughters.

Or indeed the trans-identified man, Tara Wolf, who actually did punch a woman while she was making a peaceful protest in Hyde Park in 2017. Maria Maclachan was taking photographs of the TRA intimidation and violence and was punched in the face.

in court , the magistrate required Ms Maclachan to call the man who attacked her “she.”

There’s erasure and violence for you.

Fallon Fox @babybythesea who also said he “enjoyed” (when talking about the two women he knocked out) “smacking up TEFs in the cage” on Twitter.

https://www.thedistancemag.com/p/bbc-apologizes-for-platforming-man

All this faux, teary eyed, fake empathy about ‘oh but won’t someone think of trans people’ is just boredom led activism by people who don’t have real work to do or real problems.

These same people are carrying placards on protests currently calling for Terfs to be harmed and killed. For JK Rowling to be burned as a witch.

And they expect us to buy their #bekind act. Jog on. Everyone thought you were dangerous batshits first. Since last week, everyone knows that you are pointless batshits. You are not activists, you are aggressors. But pathetic aggressors.

It is rare. But how many cases would it take to be unacceptable?
Katie Dolawski who attacked two children?
Or the videos online which show trans women masturbating in public toilets (women’s obviously) with women and kids present in the background. Clearly just getting a kick out of it (the TW that is).

Does it matter in sport that TW are no longer women?
I cannot for the life of me remember her name but the transwoman who broke her female opponent’s skull couldn’t now do that because she cannot fight as a female. Surely that’s a victory for women’s rights and safety?

Or the swimmers who have lost out to the swimmer Lia Thomas (I know it’s an American example) who was a mediocre male swimmer but suddenly a champion in the women’s races? Do those women not count either?

No one is buying it @crunchynuts12345- time to wind it down now.

Indeed. Women aren’t going to be the buffer for trans people anymore. It’s not our job. We’ve had enough.

Looks like OP has done their good deed of the day. Lecturing women on social media. Virtues must be signalled. #bekind

Would you like a medal? Or a trophy? Of Pride of Britain award? What exactly are you looking for?

And what is your point? What have trans issues got to with women? Why are women responsible for trans mental health? Do you hold men responsible too? Do you lecture them equally?

Agreed. And so did Fred Sargeant

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11231895/amp/Veteran-gay-rights-protester-74-1969-Stonewall-Riots-attacked-pro-trans-mob.html

A gay rights protestor and co-founder of the first Gay Pride Parade in New York City was attacked by a pro-trans group at a Vermont Pride event for holding an anti-woke sign that dismissed transgenderism.

Fred Sargeant, 74, was attacked after holding a sign with a red line through the phrases 'Woman Face' and 'Black Face,' at the 39th Burlington Pride Parade in Vermont.

Why are you making things up? What has women wanting to protect their spaces got to do with everything you have just projected.

If trans people have issues, they need to seek help. It is not women’s collective responsibility to take the burden and feel responsible for all of trans problems.

So if I can’t identify as a black woman because it would be offensive to an oppressed group (which I agree with BTW) why can men, as oppressors of women, “identify” into the female sex? Why are they applauded for using stereotypes to trivialise what it means to be a woman?

This woman probably felt like shit too:

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/hospital-says-patient-could-not-26506744.amp

The woman who was raped by a transwoman while in hospital and then told for a year it didn’t happen, couldn’t possibly have happened because only women were on the ward (because “transwomen are women.”) A year. That would be traumatic beyond belief but would happen again if we insist TWAW and can have free access to women’s spaces.

I definitely don’t want to legislate anyone out of existence. But that hasn’t happened. There are still protections in place for trans people under the Equality Act. They just can’t come into a woman’s space if it is labelled as female only. That’s all. That isn’t the same as hating them or wishing they didn’t exist.
It absolutely is about saying that women need to be safe. If trans people don’t feel safe in men’s spaces then they need to campaign for a third option.
What I’d actually like is for people to be able to live however they want, dress however they want, without needing to label it ‘for a man’ or ‘for a woman’ but for people to respect the spaces designated for each sex. For sex to mean your biology and gender to mean dress how you like and enjoy whatever it is you enjoy without encroaching on anyone else.

Trans people have been around for decades so I don't understand why so many problems have come about in the past 10 years or so. What did trans people do before? No one had any issue with them until they started trying to erode women's rights.

But you used the word woman to differentiate yourself from a man. Do you think there are any differences between a woman and a man? As in, do you believe that a man is a (male or female) person who .... whereas a woman is a (male or female) person who.... ?

I fully agree.

Toilets are really the thin end of the washed. Most of us have spent years being gravely concerned about hospitals wards, prisons, DV shelters and sports. My DD is a boxer - why should she ever have to step in the ring with a man?

What exactly is being taken from you?

Privacy, safety, dignity, language, freedom of speech. Well not anymore as this ruling has adopted common sense. Trans people DID take from us for years because the interpreted the law their own way

Can I ask you OP: what is a woman?

And I’m a white woman - can I identify as a black woman? Can I black up, adopt stereotypes, join black-only events and tell everyone how I’m just like them because I feel black? If not why not?

Telling a man that he’s a woman is lying.

So tell me: how will giving unfettered access to TW in female spaces improve suicide rates? They’ve been barging their way into our spaces for years and according to you the suicide rates are high. So what’s not working? And why should women be collateral damage in the process?

Trans people are protected and recognised by law.

How many children have been protected by the idea that trans women are dangerous in public toilets? And how many have been harmed by the fear, shame, and stigma those claims create?

If you think children have been harmed and stigmatised by the trans movement take it up with TRAs

You might want to look into the number of sexual crimes committed both by TW and in public toilets

Right back atcha. Women were just trundling along in the world when men decide to try and nab our liberties, as per the norm. We didn’t start the fight, We simply fought back.

Where was the empathy for the last decade for women who don’t want men in their changing rooms, hospitals wards and prisons? Did you see the individual when you read about the women raped by TW who had been granted access to them?

I could see and be friend with 1,000 TW - they will never be women and never be entitled to my spaces. I have lots of lots of male friends who I don’t invite to be in my space because that’s not the terms of my friendships. Access to women’s spaces isn’t a reward for being a nice person or good friend. The fact so many men see access to women’s spaces as a prize, given if you work hard enough at “womaning”/calling people bigots/throwing your maleness around, speaks volumes.