Suicide rates and being spoken out of existence

The OP's narrative certainly suits therapists trying to make money....can't think why they perpetuate it when it's been advised not to.

Hyperbolic statements are like tiny dogs with big barks…. Not to be taken seriously.

Out of all that drivel, you had the mental health issue part right.

It's just bloody simple. Trans women are men. I don't hate them. I admire some of them (very few).

But men do not deserve the right to infiltrate womens spaces. That is it.

Then Trans people need support for their MH.

The SC ruling does not say trans people do not exist. It emphasises that being trans remains a protected characteristic.

If trans people are reacting by wishing to commit suicide the answer is support for their mental health.

Not denying women exist as a class.

And it might be of help to trans people if the legal protections available to them were publicised rather than the hysteria causing ‘devastation’ over the legal definition of women within the Equality Act.

All that has happened is that the definition of woman remains as it has always been. Before the Trans Activists tried to erase it.

Women have been subjected to the fear of murder, abuse, rape, attack, control, mutilation, discrimination etc for MILLENIA without collapsing in heaps of suicidal bodies.

Who knows, maybe the MH crisis is a cause rather than an effect.

Just a thought.

Yes, women who have been trying to preserve their rights have suffered enormous vitriol and it has taken its toll on mental health.

Hopefully now we have clarity everyone can move forward more positively.

If you really are a therapist, you ought to turn your attention to helping your clients better deal with reality by increasing their resilience and learning coping skills to deal with their emotions and life. Sex is real and nothing good ever comes from sticking your head in the sand or trying to bully others into acquiescing to an ideology they don't believe in.

yes, of course. In all cases they entirely gave no fucks about anyone else’s opinions. They wanted to be in the women’s spaces and loudly declared they should be.

not wishing to be beaten up or lose my job I kept silent.

@crunchynuts12345 have you heard about male privilege? And female socialisation?

go hang out in style and beauty. My guess is that you could do with some tips.

What a load of hyperbolic nonsense.

Professor Louis Appleby, who is a researcher and government adviser on suicide has spoken against the type of narrative you are pushing @crunchynuts12345

It’s irresponsible and unfounded.

I've never once seen anyone advocate to deny trans people mental health support which is actually what is needed rather than playing into their delusions which helps nobody.

when you're already part of a group at such high risk for mental health struggles and suicide

Much like the (often due to service pressures undiagnosed) autistic and / or ND young people that have often been guidedbto believe if they feel at odds with the world it mist be trans and cause shitloads of issues for families: charities and orgabisatiobs being suggested as suppprt that then jave access to a yoilung person without parental consent, yhreaten to make LADO / safeguarding referrals if parents try to raise concerns, have no training in ND / autism or counselling etc and go down a one track of trans being the issue and manipulate vulnerable people for their own cause?

Did you mean that group?

Becuase that is the slimmest, briefest snapshot I can give of the utter fucking catastrophe that many families have faced with ongoing consequences thanks to this shitstorm.

So save the tears for those poor vulnerable young people fucked over by this.

I am so angry I can't coherently explain this as I want to, and asI and many others haven't been able to die to the fuckingvshambles of noone being able to speak up about this shit without being anilihated.

TRAs have hounded individual women, organised actions against them and whipped the police into harrassing investigations. Women have been held in cells overnight, their tech removed for years, arrested in front of their children… where were you calling for peace and light then, eh?

And yes, I’ve spoken to trans people. I’m massively pissed off that the lovely young woman I knew has been fooled into taking hormones and ruining her health in the hope of something that will never, never work.

‘Most trans people are quietly trying to live their lives.’

this is a lie tho Isn’t it?

I have been at Let Women speak meetings and women only meetings and there were groups of shouting masked individuals baying outside. Bigot ! Etc etc

so it’s not true. This myth of the poor poor lovely damaged transwoman now so scared because the law has been clarified.

cop on love

You're so right in that it's not theoretical. If you are born a male you can be a trans woman, but you cannot be a biological woman.

There's always going to be a difference and asking people to pretend, especially in a way that infringes on biological women's rights and safety is never going to be ok. Ever.

Have you ever spoken to a woman?

Why are suicide rates higher in trans people?
What would help that, bearing in mind that women exist and our sex based rights must be respected?
Trans people exist, they are as welcome as any other person in society.
They can't change sex.

“If you don’t do what I want I’ll kill myself!”

Isn’t that that kind of language abusers use?

But your rights haven’t changed? They’ve simply been clarified.

In fact, your OP is classic narcissism. We had to go to court to reclaim our word and YOU are the one struggling?!

Noone tried to deny your right to be trans. No one tried to take your word and apply it to whatever they wanted it to mean. I wouldn’t dream of telling you I know what it means to be trans, that I too am trans, that I need to join your support groups and get your additional equality protections.

That was what you did to us. So stop with the DARVO.

“CrunchyNuts”