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To think you should never cohabit with a man unless he’s paying the majority of the bills?

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ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 13:47

Split finances = split energy.

OP posts:
TheCurious0range · 19/04/2025 17:59

I can't think of anything less appealing than being bought

WeHaveTheRabbit · 19/04/2025 17:58

Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:55

Who is she?

The woman in the relationship. I can spell it out for you if you like. Why shouldn't the woman pay for everything? You've said the man should but not explained why. So why is it up to him to pay? Why isn't it up to her?

Sherry1978 · 19/04/2025 17:58

ShanghaiDiva · 19/04/2025 14:27

In 33 years of marriage I have never handled an emotional check in - what utter guff.

Did you go 50:50?

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 17:58

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 17:55

Yeah I agree that money doesn’t equal loyalty - I’ve never said it does. Loyalty, character and emotional maturity are non-negotiables in any relationship for me, no matter what someone earns.

When I speak about masculine provider energy, I’m not reducing relationships to salary brackets or saying that someone’s income guarantees a stable, respectful dynamic. I’m talking about a partner who wants to lead financially as part of how he shows care, protection, and long-term thinking - not someone who uses money as leverage or control.

And yes, I absolutely believe in teamwork and leaning into your strengths but that doesn’t mean I ignore the kind of dynamic I know I thrive in. Some people love a perfectly even split in everything; others (like me) feel more in flow when we’re contributing differently but equally. It’s not about one way being better - just being honest about what alignment looks like for you.

I respect your setup and love that it works for you. But what feels right for one couple might feel off for another - and that’s okay.

Can you not show care, protection and long term thinking - these a characteristic that everyone should have in abundance. Something we taught our DC’s from when they were little.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 19/04/2025 17:57

And it’s interesting how quickly that gets written off as either a “wind-up” or a risk, rather than a valid preference that many people manage responsibly.

I think it's a wind up because you're spouting vacuous phrases bollocks that sound like they were put together by AI or by somebody who's overdosed on UHU.

FlowerUser · 19/04/2025 17:57

The Implication when you say you are a woman with “standards” is that those of us who believe in equality and proportionality do not have “standards”.

I’m not going to go into the details of my relationship because it’s none of your business and you contradict yourself when you comment on other people’s arrangements.

However, your pontification on the rights of your own relationship as somehow “better” fails to consider that the balance you have leads to abuse and violence towards women in other relationships. That men force that disproportionality onto women who don’t want it or who don’t realise the trap it can be.

Surely we should all be seeking to create an environment where men and women’s respect each other and play an equal role in terms of emotional labour. You’re just accepting that it’s your responsibility to be kind to a man when he should learn that kindness is something he is responsible for as well. And you are teaching your children the same.

Personally I prefer to change the world rather than accept its inherent unfairness. And I do have standards, so don’t imply that your way is the better, best or only way.

And unless you can scientifically prove gendered “energy”, I suggest you say it as it actually is: that you’re happy to take on all the additional responsibilities as long as he pays the bills. Because it sounds to me as if you just want to be a kept woman.

Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:56

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 17:55

Sounds a very sad life - sorry for you.

I don't care what some nobody online thinks, lol.

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 17:55

PenelopeJane91 · 19/04/2025 16:13

What is it about men bringing masculine provider energy (I.e more money to the table) that provides you with “stability, initiative and loyalty”?

My DH earnt more than me for a short while when we met (I was a teenager) and I now earn much more than him. Never have either of our salaries determined the values we have, the way we treat each other or fundamentally changed how we work as a team. In some of your responses you seem to suggest that it is team work that you are referring to but then again, reiterate that your strengths are in emotional areas so you expect any DP/DH to pick up in your weak area, finances?

I truly believe that in a relationship you have to lean into your strengths, understand your weaknesses and as a couple, work out how those look together but as a prerequisite to any relationship? No, that doesn’t sit well with me. We have one life to live, I’m not going to determine who I spend my life with by how much they can bring to the table financially.

Have boundaries and values you stick to by all means but placing any bets on a man coming in with his big man masculine energy and hoping he’ll remain “loyal” is just naive (at best).

Money does not equal loyalty! Read some of the threads on here and some of these men are the most disloyal of all, they seem to think they can buy women.

Yeah I agree that money doesn’t equal loyalty - I’ve never said it does. Loyalty, character and emotional maturity are non-negotiables in any relationship for me, no matter what someone earns.

When I speak about masculine provider energy, I’m not reducing relationships to salary brackets or saying that someone’s income guarantees a stable, respectful dynamic. I’m talking about a partner who wants to lead financially as part of how he shows care, protection, and long-term thinking - not someone who uses money as leverage or control.

And yes, I absolutely believe in teamwork and leaning into your strengths but that doesn’t mean I ignore the kind of dynamic I know I thrive in. Some people love a perfectly even split in everything; others (like me) feel more in flow when we’re contributing differently but equally. It’s not about one way being better - just being honest about what alignment looks like for you.

I respect your setup and love that it works for you. But what feels right for one couple might feel off for another - and that’s okay.

OP posts:
Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:55

WeHaveTheRabbit · 19/04/2025 17:55

And why shouldn't she?

Who is she?

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 17:55

Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:54

I have never dated men like that, so it's never been an issue.

Sounds a very sad life - sorry for you.

WeHaveTheRabbit · 19/04/2025 17:55

Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:52

Why shouldn't he?

And why shouldn't she?

Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:54

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 17:53

Why should he - perhaps he doesn’t want to?

I have never dated men like that, so it's never been an issue.

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 17:53

Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:50

Why shouldn't he?

Why should he - perhaps he doesn’t want to?

Liz1tummypain · 19/04/2025 17:53

If it's not who pays = masculine then surely the OP isn't worded properly. Going by the OP is certainly is the man who pays.

Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:52

WeHaveTheRabbit · 19/04/2025 17:52

Why shouldn't you?

Why shouldn't he?

WeHaveTheRabbit · 19/04/2025 17:52

Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:50

Why shouldn't he?

Why shouldn't you?

Bluebellwood129 · 19/04/2025 17:51

I’m not anti-independence, I just prefer alignment around provision and support.

A meaningless statement. OP, your writing ability and critical thinking skills are very poor.

BunnyLake · 19/04/2025 17:51

OP why are you not elaborating on your own personal relationship status and experience despite being asked several times? You keep spouting what you require and expect but you sound like you have little to no real life experience of meaningful (romantic) relationships.

Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:50

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 17:47

Why should he pay all the bills?

Why shouldn't he?

ThisSereneSnail · 19/04/2025 17:49

ZoggyStirdust · 19/04/2025 16:11

So I’m a same sex relationship between 2 women the one paying (because there should be one according to you) is bringing the masculine energy?

Not at all. Masculine and feminine energy aren’t about gender - they’re about relational dynamics. In a same-sex relationship, just like in any other, one partner might naturally take the lead in one area (financial, emotional, practical), while the other balances that with a different kind of contribution. It’s not who pays = masculine. It’s about the dynamic that works best for both people and that can look different in every relationship.

OP posts:
MyUmberSeal · 19/04/2025 17:49

BunnyLake · 19/04/2025 17:43

In fact Melania Trump is an excellent example of what OP thinks is the right dynamic. I shouldn't think anyone expects Trump brings emotional support and strength into the family dynamic but he will be providing the money. OP is basically suggesting we all follow the Trump marriage blueprint.

But as it goes, apparently Melania Trump is miserable as fuck and they have very little to do with each other beyond what the world sees. Could all be journalistic nonsense of course, and she could be deliriously happy that the energy isn’t being split, however, I suspect not. 😂🤣

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 17:48

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2025 17:46

@ThisSereneSnail since you have ignored every one of my posts I can only suggest you come back in 20 years and tell us all how it’s worked out.

As a 55 year old financially independent woman I don’t think I have much to learn here.

I agree - after 30 years of happy marriage I know what’s right and wrong in a relationship.

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 17:47

Arancia · 19/04/2025 17:42

A man should pay all of the bills, in my world. I don't do 50/50 relationships. But each to their own.

Why should he pay all the bills?

Dhxusksgxuks · 19/04/2025 17:47

It sounds like you, and the people you’re dating, are immature.

ghostyslovesheets · 19/04/2025 17:46

@ThisSereneSnail since you have ignored every one of my posts I can only suggest you come back in 20 years and tell us all how it’s worked out.

As a 55 year old financially independent woman I don’t think I have much to learn here.

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