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How to handle child swearing for attention

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cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 10:57

My 7 year old daughter has been swearing a lot over the last week or so, normal loss of privilege has not had any affect.
she is currently swearing repeatedly while chatting to her sister and I’m just ignoring her so not to reward her with the attention she is trying to get, she’s not angry she’s just smugly swearing more and more for a reaction and now almost every other word is fucking or fuck even to the point she’s singing it to get me to react.
I have taken her Nintendo and began extending the days she lost it but she’s not phased.
She is swearing louder and louder and seems very confused at my lack of reaction, I am calmly thinking of a consequence to give but I’m looking for suggestions.

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Theunamedcat · 19/04/2025 20:03

Madthings · 19/04/2025 13:46

What you are describing is how anxiety can present. I think do some research into ND and non typical presentations esp for girls. She sounds a bit hyper with constantly talking as an adhd female that is how I presented as a child. She may well be trying to connect even though it seems like she is being defiant.

Look at PACE.

Ross Greens books and plan b methods.

Get curious

🙄 swearing/unwanted behaviour for attention is a perfectly normal phase nothing to do with neurodivergent children

FarmGirl78 · 19/04/2025 15:29

cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 11:06

Sending her to her room is impossible unless there was a lock on the door, she’d firstly refuse point blank to go and if I dragged her up there she would follow me back down every time.

So you take her back up every time.

ConnieSlow · 19/04/2025 15:23

Madthings · 19/04/2025 13:46

What you are describing is how anxiety can present. I think do some research into ND and non typical presentations esp for girls. She sounds a bit hyper with constantly talking as an adhd female that is how I presented as a child. She may well be trying to connect even though it seems like she is being defiant.

Look at PACE.

Ross Greens books and plan b methods.

Get curious

Oh fgs, some kids are just naughty. Not everything needs a diagnosis. Op knows her child better than you and she says she isn’t anxious at all.

ConnieSlow · 19/04/2025 15:22

Eggsboxedandmelting · 19/04/2025 11:02

Sponge and Fairy...
Dare her to speak at school like that and consider those consequences..

I like this. Utterly horrid speaking like that. Give her a massive telling off. She’s 7yo and fully capable of knowing this is unacceptable. Sending her to her room is wet parenting, so is ignoring it. If she was 3/4 then ignoring would be the way to go.
I would really judge you if I heard your 7yo speak so vulgar language.

Madthings · 19/04/2025 13:46

What you are describing is how anxiety can present. I think do some research into ND and non typical presentations esp for girls. She sounds a bit hyper with constantly talking as an adhd female that is how I presented as a child. She may well be trying to connect even though it seems like she is being defiant.

Look at PACE.

Ross Greens books and plan b methods.

Get curious

cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 13:40

Madthings · 19/04/2025 13:25

What do you mean by she seems to enjoy it or get a thrill from being defiant? What are you interpreting from her beheviour to suggest this. Often when children behave this way they are actuslly incredibly anxious. And given you are des ribjng what sounds like a perfect child at school who explodes at home, that suggests masking and anxiety

It also could well be verbal stim or tic. Especially as its come on suddenly and age sats she doesn't know why she does it and punishment is not working.

She absolutely loves it, big smile on her face, repeats rude things to make sure you heard, callls her sister vile names and is still swearing away now.
her sister asked her why she keeps swearing and she says because I like it.
she isn’t anxious at all, she’s just bold, hyper and daring, she’s constantly talking, doesn’t stop for breath and she finds her behaviour hilarious.

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Madthings · 19/04/2025 13:25

cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 12:50

I see where you’re coming from but it’s only been the last couple of days she’s been saying it and today’s behaviour.
Not that’s it’s definitely not but I think it’s more that she knows she’s is in control of what comes out of her mouth and nobody else can stop her.
She enjoys the challenge when it comes to any authority and seems to get a thrill from being defiant.

What do you mean by she seems to enjoy it or get a thrill from being defiant? What are you interpreting from her beheviour to suggest this. Often when children behave this way they are actuslly incredibly anxious. And given you are des ribjng what sounds like a perfect child at school who explodes at home, that suggests masking and anxiety

It also could well be verbal stim or tic. Especially as its come on suddenly and age sats she doesn't know why she does it and punishment is not working.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 19/04/2025 13:18

cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 11:06

Sending her to her room is impossible unless there was a lock on the door, she’d firstly refuse point blank to go and if I dragged her up there she would follow me back down every time.

I would put a lock on the door if necessary

TheBewleySisters · 19/04/2025 13:15

My late mother once said to my niece (her granddaughter) who was exhibiting similar behaviour whilst my sister (girl's mum) was unable to handle it. She said to girl: "You know darling, I don't like you very much at the moment. I love you, and always will, but I don't like you when you do this. And neither will anyone else." This was said in a calm, quiet way, with a very serious face. We were all horrified and appalled that she would speak to a child like that. But it was like a cup of cold water to the face, my niece was so taken aback that Granny could speak to her like that. Niece grew into a lovely you g woman. But I still wonder about it.

WinterBones · 19/04/2025 13:03

FartyBrainedHippo · 19/04/2025 12:52

My daughter discovered the F word at roughly the same age (though never said it out loud - she put it in her schoolbook!!) I said as she loved it so much, she could cover a sheet of A4 paper with it, normal size (like doing lines). I made her sit until she’d written it out a couple of hundred times and was sick of the sight of it. Then I made her rip it up and put it in the bin*. She soon didn’t find it so thrilling anymore.

*on bin day all the fuckfetti blew all the way down the road.

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fuckfetti.. properly made me LOL, best phrase of the day!

doreeen · 19/04/2025 13:01

Newname71 · 19/04/2025 11:23

I ask this kindly…. Does she get much positive attention from you? DS2 was a handful at that age. What worked for us was totally ignoring any negative behaviour and heaping ridiculous amount of praise on him for every tiny little thing he did right/well. In the beginning we were praising him for reaaally stupid things and it felt ridiculous but as time went on he thrived on the praise and his behaviour did improve.
Edited to add he was later diagnosed with ADHD.

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Yes this worked really well on one of my children. It was outlined in a book I bought (happier calm parenting or something like that) ‘descriptive praise’. Worked like magic for him when everything else had failed.

it’s not always the solution and doesn’t work on my other child. But when it works it works REALLY well.

FartyBrainedHippo · 19/04/2025 12:52

My daughter discovered the F word at roughly the same age (though never said it out loud - she put it in her schoolbook!!) I said as she loved it so much, she could cover a sheet of A4 paper with it, normal size (like doing lines). I made her sit until she’d written it out a couple of hundred times and was sick of the sight of it. Then I made her rip it up and put it in the bin*. She soon didn’t find it so thrilling anymore.

*on bin day all the fuckfetti blew all the way down the road.

IWishIWasABaller · 19/04/2025 12:51

Sounds like a verbal stim or a form of tourettes. I'd be seeking medical advice or additional support

cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 12:50

Growsomeballswoman · 19/04/2025 12:43

Could it be a verbal stim. My asd DS does this as a way of controlling his emotions.

I see where you’re coming from but it’s only been the last couple of days she’s been saying it and today’s behaviour.
Not that’s it’s definitely not but I think it’s more that she knows she’s is in control of what comes out of her mouth and nobody else can stop her.
She enjoys the challenge when it comes to any authority and seems to get a thrill from being defiant.

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homeedmam · 19/04/2025 12:48

cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 12:35

Do you have any idea what that could be

That I don't know - could be attention, compulsive behaviour, a way of trying to manage overwhelming emotions, because she feels bad about herself.

If she is ND then all the advice about just increasing pressure and punishment isn't going to work.

Growsomeballswoman · 19/04/2025 12:43

Could it be a verbal stim. My asd DS does this as a way of controlling his emotions.

cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 12:41

RedToothBrush · 19/04/2025 12:36

It's the sitting down and having a conversation as if she's an equal rather than the activities. It's the combination of that and the 'i can't take her to her room and leave her' that screams there's a problem.

I was saying she talks to me about anything and everything so it’s not as if she is trying to tell me something is wrong or get my attention because she talks non stop and if there’s a problem at school etc she will always come and talk to me about it.

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Catlady63 · 19/04/2025 12:41

Some kids enjoy the thrill of being naughty, and swearing is a great way to be naughty, as well as being cool, in their eyes at least, as it's edgy and teenagery. She doesn't want to be labelled the bad girl in school, so she keeps it for home, as she doesn't care if you think she's behaving badly.

A PP suggested that you tell her you're going to talk to her favourite teacher about it - I think this is a great idea, she obviously cares what her teachers think.

You do need to tackle this, to reset your relationship with need to tell her, ignoring her doesn't mean she won't still swear with her sibling, and she might start to use bad language with her friends to impress them. Their parents may find it harder to ignore.

You need to sort some way of discipling her - punishments/rewards - there's loads of good stuff online.

She's only 7, so I'm sure you csn turn this around with different parenting style.

Oddsocksanduglyshoes · 19/04/2025 12:40

cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 11:06

Sending her to her room is impossible unless there was a lock on the door, she’d firstly refuse point blank to go and if I dragged her up there she would follow me back down every time.

You have a much bigger problem than just the swearing then. If at 7 you have no control over her you need to start asserting yourself, she doesn’t appear to have much respect for boundaries, I think you need to start taking charge.

Madthings · 19/04/2025 12:39

Does she repeat other words to herself at other times?

I would maybe remove siblings to colour out of earshot of the swearing.

But it really sounds like there is something more going on here. The traditional strategies are clearly not working. There is more to her behaviour than needing boundaries as posters are suggesting.

Really think you need some further support to look at bigger picture.

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/04/2025 12:36

cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 12:34

He does but is at work today, they are making Easter cards for their grandparents and she is colouring while repeating the word fuck over and over occasionally looking up and saying I’ve been good today and carrying on.
Ive told him she’s not getting any eggs tomorrow while her sister will but he thinks we should keep them back and she can earn one at a time for being good for a day.

You really need to separate her from her sister.

RedToothBrush · 19/04/2025 12:36

WinterBones · 19/04/2025 12:24

What about any of that makes you think she isn't?

Do you not do crafts, cooking..etc or make conversations with your children?

My DD knows i'm her mother, but i am also her friend and she can be safe talking to me about anything and everything she is doing/going through/experiencing.

Children learn emotional intelligence through modelled behaviour and appropriate conversations about feelings/emotions.

It's the sitting down and having a conversation as if she's an equal rather than the activities. It's the combination of that and the 'i can't take her to her room and leave her' that screams there's a problem.

Dhxusksgxuks · 19/04/2025 12:36

If punishment isn’t working it might be time for a new approach. Take her aside quietly and with kind curiosity ask her why she’s doing it. What’s the root of this behaviour, why is she so desperate for attention even if it’s negative? Tell her you can see she’s crying out for attention and ask why that is. She may not tell you immediately. Let her know you won’t be responding to swearing, but you’re there when she’s ready to talk about what’s really going on. Then carry on not even acknowledging the swearing.

You can also let her know that if you can’t trust her to be polite in company, you can’t risk taking her out or having people over. And stick to that boundary. It won’t have immediate effect but she will get bored.

I would also be investigating where she’s hearing this language - who has been swearing in front of her and is it a situation where you need to intervene?

cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 12:35

homeedmam · 19/04/2025 12:31

She is getting something from the behaviour but I doubt it is pleasure.

Do you have any idea what that could be

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cloudywithstars · 19/04/2025 12:34

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/04/2025 12:28

Does her dad live with you?

Can you tag team? I’d be taking her sister to the park whilst the other stays at home and takes her to her room every single time she does it.

He does but is at work today, they are making Easter cards for their grandparents and she is colouring while repeating the word fuck over and over occasionally looking up and saying I’ve been good today and carrying on.
Ive told him she’s not getting any eggs tomorrow while her sister will but he thinks we should keep them back and she can earn one at a time for being good for a day.

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