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To not let 10yo wear football kit to pub lunch?

115 replies

Haveyouanyjam · 19/04/2025 10:12

Not super fancy but nice pub for lunch with family, AIBU to tell him to take his football kit off and put something a bit smarter on?

Or is that just snobbery?

It’s an all black smart ish kit if that makes any difference…

OP posts:
TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 16:13

Singaporeannoodle · 19/04/2025 16:11

So a little boy who likes wearing football kits is a chav now 😂
Nothing wrong with children wearing football kits I bet your sons dress in actual chav clothes like Adidas (chavidas) tracksuits and you see no problem with that but God forbid a boy enjoy football

I was referring to the would-be diners who were turned away from the restaurant.

SharpOpalNewt · 19/04/2025 16:12

Topseyt123 · 19/04/2025 16:08

What's wrong with going to a normal pub or restaurant casually dressed? I'd always go in jeans and a t-shirt, with jumper or cardigan over it in cooler weather. If we get a warm summer's day then I'll even wear shorts (mine are Bermuda ones). I dress for me, not for anyone else. I want to be comfortable.

Obviously if I was going to a particularly fancy place like the Ritz, the Savoy or Claridges then I would make more of an effort, but those types of places have never exactly been my regular haunts and are never likely to be either.

Nothing wrong with hoodies and leggings either as they are perfectly decent and respectable. It's not as if she's wearing a bikini and flashing her boobs and arse!

Some people do need to unclench a bit. The days when you always had to dress up to go out for dinner are thankfully long gone.

I think people are replying who last ate out in 1990.

Singaporeannoodle · 19/04/2025 16:11

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 16:03

I don’t know about god, but the manager at Rules wasn’t about to admit chavs to his dining room. Thankfully.

So a little boy who likes wearing football kits is a chav now 😂
Nothing wrong with children wearing football kits I bet your sons dress in actual chav clothes like Adidas (chavidas) tracksuits and you see no problem with that but God forbid a boy enjoy football

SharpOpalNewt · 19/04/2025 16:11

Bubblesgun · 19/04/2025 10:18

Not snobbery no. I do excatly the same. I often say to my girls no leggings/tracksuits/hoodies. It s perfevtly reasonable they need to learn how to dress appropriately for an event/venue/ etc

No leggings or hoodies to go to a pub? I don't think DDs owned much in the way of other clothes between the ages of 10 and 15. Some people really are so insecure about their status that they make their kids overdress instead of letting them feel clean and comfortable.

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 16:10

Singaporeannoodle · 19/04/2025 16:02

😂😂😂
I love this comment, seriously. God forbid some peasant dare not dress the whole family in suits for a meal out.

Btw we were seated next a family with boys about 9 or 10. Mother was in a lovely dress, boys like father in suits with button down shirts. It can be done.

They were quiet, with good table manners, too.

EmmaEmEmz · 19/04/2025 16:08

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 16:01

So if the officiant at your wedding or funeral, or perhaps your bridesmaids, chose to wear swimming costumes or Arsenal gear or their old gardening pants, you’d be fine with that?

🙄

Clothing has been symbolic and occasion-appropriate for all of human existence. It’s not neutral. What you choose to wear sends a message and does affect the ambience for others.

If I'm honest, no, I wouldn't give a shit.

At my wedding everyone was in jeans and trainers, including my husband.

Topseyt123 · 19/04/2025 16:08

novalia89 · 19/04/2025 15:03

Yes, people have forgotten how to dress up these days. I don't mean something really fancy, just not casual wear. I'm surprised that my friend finds no issue in going to a restaurant in leggings and a hoodie. I once wore running clothes after a run and it felt very wrong and disrespectful. To the owners and also to the other people who may only be able to afford a meal out occasionally and I look dishevelled.

What's wrong with going to a normal pub or restaurant casually dressed? I'd always go in jeans and a t-shirt, with jumper or cardigan over it in cooler weather. If we get a warm summer's day then I'll even wear shorts (mine are Bermuda ones). I dress for me, not for anyone else. I want to be comfortable.

Obviously if I was going to a particularly fancy place like the Ritz, the Savoy or Claridges then I would make more of an effort, but those types of places have never exactly been my regular haunts and are never likely to be either.

Nothing wrong with hoodies and leggings either as they are perfectly decent and respectable. It's not as if she's wearing a bikini and flashing her boobs and arse!

Some people do need to unclench a bit. The days when you always had to dress up to go out for dinner are thankfully long gone.

Comedycook · 19/04/2025 16:06

It's rather petit bourgeois to care so much about what other patrons in a pub at lunchtime think of what your child is wearing .

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 16:06

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 16:02

It’s still a public place, not one’s lounge in front of the television.

So football kits shouldn’t be seen in public?

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 16:03

Singaporeannoodle · 19/04/2025 16:02

😂😂😂
I love this comment, seriously. God forbid some peasant dare not dress the whole family in suits for a meal out.

I don’t know about god, but the manager at Rules wasn’t about to admit chavs to his dining room. Thankfully.

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 16:02

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 15:09

We’re talking about a pub not an elegant restaurant.

It’s still a public place, not one’s lounge in front of the television.

Singaporeannoodle · 19/04/2025 16:02

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 15:58

Ugh.

So much for the social contract.

we were in a nice, dressy London restaurant the other night and the captain turned away a loud, sloppy couple in leggings, cargo shorts, hoodies, trainers, and cheap caps.

All the other patrons were in suits, dresses and nice shoes/jewelry, but these clods took the hump and couldn’t understand why they were not welcome. It was mildly entertaining.

If you know, you know.

Uphold your standards, OP. It will serve your son well.

😂😂😂
I love this comment, seriously. God forbid some peasant dare not dress the whole family in suits for a meal out.

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 16:01

EmmaEmEmz · 19/04/2025 15:48

I don't dress for other people. I dress for myself

So if the officiant at your wedding or funeral, or perhaps your bridesmaids, chose to wear swimming costumes or Arsenal gear or their old gardening pants, you’d be fine with that?

🙄

Clothing has been symbolic and occasion-appropriate for all of human existence. It’s not neutral. What you choose to wear sends a message and does affect the ambience for others.

JillAndJenTheFlowerpotMen · 19/04/2025 16:01

I’ve always expected the dc to wear sportswear only for sports. So I wouldn’t let a 10yo come out to lunch like this.

HonoriaBulstrode · 19/04/2025 16:01

Dresses in a pub????

What's wrong with dresses in a pub? I thought people could wear what they wanted? Or is that 'wear what you want as long as people on MN approve'?

Namechangean · 19/04/2025 16:00

Depends on how much of a battle it will be. Wouldn’t ruin a nice day out if they would fight me on it. If they don’t mind I’d say go put something nice on. I’m not bothered enough by a kid in a football kit to cause any upset over it

ChildrenOfTheQuorn · 19/04/2025 16:00

I would assume it's a bit of a rough family if I saw the football kit tbh.

TheHerboriste · 19/04/2025 15:58

Singaporeannoodle · 19/04/2025 15:45

This is people pleasing to an extreme degree. Who cares if your outfit upsets and offends the eyes of someone on another table at a restaurant?
Boohoo they can only afford to fine dine occasionally, that is not your problem wear what you want.

Ugh.

So much for the social contract.

we were in a nice, dressy London restaurant the other night and the captain turned away a loud, sloppy couple in leggings, cargo shorts, hoodies, trainers, and cheap caps.

All the other patrons were in suits, dresses and nice shoes/jewelry, but these clods took the hump and couldn’t understand why they were not welcome. It was mildly entertaining.

If you know, you know.

Uphold your standards, OP. It will serve your son well.

User79853257976 · 19/04/2025 15:55

Singaporeannoodle · 19/04/2025 12:11

I assumed she meant mind lol. But how is a football kit chavvy?
When everyone else is dressing their kids in tracksuits which actually does look chavvy.

Exactly. Pure snobbery.

EmmaEmEmz · 19/04/2025 15:48

novalia89 · 19/04/2025 15:03

Yes, people have forgotten how to dress up these days. I don't mean something really fancy, just not casual wear. I'm surprised that my friend finds no issue in going to a restaurant in leggings and a hoodie. I once wore running clothes after a run and it felt very wrong and disrespectful. To the owners and also to the other people who may only be able to afford a meal out occasionally and I look dishevelled.

I don't dress for other people. I dress for myself

Singaporeannoodle · 19/04/2025 15:45

novalia89 · 19/04/2025 15:03

Yes, people have forgotten how to dress up these days. I don't mean something really fancy, just not casual wear. I'm surprised that my friend finds no issue in going to a restaurant in leggings and a hoodie. I once wore running clothes after a run and it felt very wrong and disrespectful. To the owners and also to the other people who may only be able to afford a meal out occasionally and I look dishevelled.

This is people pleasing to an extreme degree. Who cares if your outfit upsets and offends the eyes of someone on another table at a restaurant?
Boohoo they can only afford to fine dine occasionally, that is not your problem wear what you want.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 19/04/2025 15:18

novalia89 · 19/04/2025 15:03

Yes, people have forgotten how to dress up these days. I don't mean something really fancy, just not casual wear. I'm surprised that my friend finds no issue in going to a restaurant in leggings and a hoodie. I once wore running clothes after a run and it felt very wrong and disrespectful. To the owners and also to the other people who may only be able to afford a meal out occasionally and I look dishevelled.

Well yes - there’s a huge difference in wearing a clean hoody and leggings to clothes you’ve just worn to run in. That is a bit yuk.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 19/04/2025 15:15

Dirty kit he’s been playing in - not OK

Clean kit - fine .

Dramatic · 19/04/2025 15:14

I'm confused at why people would be offended by what someone else wears in a pub, especially a child.

Parker231 · 19/04/2025 15:09

novalia89 · 19/04/2025 15:03

Yes, people have forgotten how to dress up these days. I don't mean something really fancy, just not casual wear. I'm surprised that my friend finds no issue in going to a restaurant in leggings and a hoodie. I once wore running clothes after a run and it felt very wrong and disrespectful. To the owners and also to the other people who may only be able to afford a meal out occasionally and I look dishevelled.

We’re talking about a pub not an elegant restaurant.