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I don’t like shy children

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Whatsuppppp · 18/04/2025 23:21

Dd said this today.

She’s very outgoing, fun, friendly, kind etc

She said it’s because they don’t smile at her or want to play when she asks them and it makes her sad that they might not like her as their face and the way they act looks like that.

My Dd wasn’t trying to be unkind and I sort of see her point. It touched a nerve though as I was very shy when younger and am so pleased she’s the complete opposite as I think it will make things easier in life for her. I’ve always had friends but do sometimes find things hard socially, it did make me see things from her point of view and from more extroverted personalities…I hate the thought of people thinking I’m unfriendly and don’t like them, but I suppose some must have. I was always just thinking of it from my point of view
Sad how being shy made things so much harder

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Tiswa · 19/04/2025 11:34

faerietales · 19/04/2025 11:29

I totally agree with this.

Too many people need to be "liked" by everyone they meet - why? It's incredibly unrealistic and just sets you up for disappointment.

It’s another form of social anxiety it isn’t about being liked but a fear of being disliked or judged and overthinking interactions

BoredZelda · 19/04/2025 11:33

Nevermindthebuzzard · 19/04/2025 06:31

My children are autistic and come across as very shy.

They hate it when overly confident children bother them when they're just trying to play.

Same here. Mine would do a “talk to the hand” action, or turn her face away, which came across as rude.

JudasTree · 19/04/2025 11:32

Swiftie1878 · 19/04/2025 11:25

Shyness is a self absorbed and self-important emotion?!
Wow! Aren’t your views very self-absorbed and self-important!

Extroverts who insist on filling space with their chatter and energy, regardless of how welcome it is, could be described in exactly the same way.

Everyone is different and interacts in the world in their own way. The judgment needs to stop, and this young girl has opened a convo with the OP which needs to be turned into a learning opportunity.

I agree with @ComtesseDeSpair — shyness can indeed be deeply self-absorbed. The person is often more likely to be thinking about how they’re coming across and planning what they’re going to say next, rather than paying attention to the other person, and the effect is exactly the same as being around someone who is arrogant and self-absorbed, because in neither case is the person actually really listening to, or seeing, the other person in the conversation.

faerietales · 19/04/2025 11:29

Oblomov25 · 19/04/2025 10:58

What's wrong with not liking someone? Or not clicking with someone?
I'm very choosy about who I like. Most people are pleasant enough, I can do pleasantries easily. But my closest friends I choose. Many people won't like us either, accepting that is key. Why is this such an issue?

I totally agree with this.

Too many people need to be "liked" by everyone they meet - why? It's incredibly unrealistic and just sets you up for disappointment.

Tiswa · 19/04/2025 11:28

You can still suffer from social snxiety and be an extrovert - and I would say the fact she takes these things personally and that it is about not liking her (rather than just not wanting to play) and they are making judgments about her

Swiftie1878 · 19/04/2025 11:25

ComtesseDeSpair · 19/04/2025 04:34

She lacks the tact to express how she feels in a more socially acceptable way, but that’s part and parcel of being a child. I can see her instinctive reasoning at some level: I find shyness difficult to rub along with because ultimately it’s such a self-absorbed and self-important emotion: other people really aren’t focusing on or thinking about you to anything like the extent you imagine and feel self conscious about, and it often creates such an insincere level of interaction because if you’re constantly thinking about yourself and how you’re being perceived and come across, that barrier impedes genuine engagement. Children are pretty good at picking up on these nuances, even if they can’t articulate them sensitively.

Shyness is a self absorbed and self-important emotion?!
Wow! Aren’t your views very self-absorbed and self-important!

Extroverts who insist on filling space with their chatter and energy, regardless of how welcome it is, could be described in exactly the same way.

Everyone is different and interacts in the world in their own way. The judgment needs to stop, and this young girl has opened a convo with the OP which needs to be turned into a learning opportunity.

Dhxusksgxuks · 19/04/2025 11:23

AthWat · 19/04/2025 11:10

Do people think there's a neutral ground between "I like this person" and "I don't like this person" because to me, it's a binary. Liking someone is positive, don't like is neutral. But is seems that many feel "don't like" is negative.

For those who do, what would they say for people in that middle ground? Or would they say they "like" someone they are completely ambivalent about?

I think I would view ‘I like this person’ as positive, ‘I don’t like this person’ as negative, and ‘I’m indifferent to this person’ as neutral. However, this is from an adult perspective - I don’t think six year olds necessarily have that nuance.

Middleagedstriker · 19/04/2025 11:18

PmDDdrive · 19/04/2025 08:05

cause i have an honest opinion? funny how certain people can be honest but your lips start flapping when others do it, hating someone because there shy? i bet your english..

Oh xenophobic and acting like a bully. Also can't seem to understand how capital letters work.

EdithBond · 19/04/2025 11:17

This is one of the many wonderful things about children. They help you consider things about yourself and have more empathy for another perspective.

The important lesson for your DD is that we’re all different and some people are less outgoing. It’s important to understand this and keep being friendly and inclusive to them, e.g. asking them to join in.

However, if people are shy to the point of being rude or unfriendly, it’s OK to feel uncomfortable. But important not to take it personally or dislike them for it. Empathy and kindness are the important thing. It doesn’t mean you have to hang out with people you struggle to get on with.

Whatsuppppp · 19/04/2025 11:14

Lots of interesting comments…

Some posters making quite a jump to implying my Dd is loud, boisterous, annoying etc…she isn’t, she’s just naturally friendly and not shy.
I think she sees them as not wanting to play with her as they’re not keen on her as a person.
I’ve explained it to her and also told her about how I was very shy and how it felt.
She’s only 6, so still young, she’s definitely not trying to be unkind

I know how hard it is to deal with shyness as a child and social anxiety and am massively relieved that she’s different from me, I’ve no idea why she’s so different!

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AthWat · 19/04/2025 11:10

Do people think there's a neutral ground between "I like this person" and "I don't like this person" because to me, it's a binary. Liking someone is positive, don't like is neutral. But is seems that many feel "don't like" is negative.

For those who do, what would they say for people in that middle ground? Or would they say they "like" someone they are completely ambivalent about?

Ladamesansmerci · 19/04/2025 11:08

I think everyone is entitled to like who they want, providing they treat everyone with respect. It's okay to want extraverted friends!

Having said that, I was chronically shy as a child. As in, I couldn't say hello without going to bits, couldn't order in a restaurant, etc. Ironically, I'm now in a job that involves excellent communication skills lol (mental health nurse!), but I'm still socially shy. Or, it's more I'm a bit awkward than shy. I come across a bit offbeat/eccentric, but I am neurodivergent.

I used to really appreciate the people who were so extraverted they didn't mind my shyness. Once I get to know you I never shut up tbh, but I'm just poor at the initial stages!

Also, it's absolutely okay to be shy. It would be pretty boring if we were all the same, and I often think shy people are quite gentle in nature. I make sure to always speak to quieter/shy people and make an effort, because I know how lonely it used to feel. I think we should all teach our kids the same :)

AthWat · 19/04/2025 11:00

Bringmeahigherlove · 19/04/2025 10:54

It depends on why you don’t like someone. I tend to not like people who are rude to me or selfish or abrasive. Being shy doesn’t make someone a bad person and therefore not enough for me to say “I don’t like them”. You can choose to interpret in whatever way you want to. There’s lots of people I come across who I don’t click with but I wouldn’t say I don't like them.

Why not? Do you like them? If you don't, you don't like them.

Oblomov25 · 19/04/2025 10:58

What's wrong with not liking someone? Or not clicking with someone?
I'm very choosy about who I like. Most people are pleasant enough, I can do pleasantries easily. But my closest friends I choose. Many people won't like us either, accepting that is key. Why is this such an issue?

BlondiePortz · 19/04/2025 10:58

So she sees other people only in relation to her self? Plus maybe thry think she is boisterous and obnoxious?

I am neither show nor outgoing same as my child, but one of the positives about my child which I feel I am similar is we take people as we find them on their terms not our own

NeverDropYourMooncup · 19/04/2025 10:56

She could be mixing up 'don't like' with 'I'm not comfortable' because she's a kid still learning to put words to feelings and can't yet articulate them fully. She's thinking about the way it makes her feel, which is good, but hasn't yet made the jump to realising that the other child isn't doing it to make her feel bad.

Bringmeahigherlove · 19/04/2025 10:54

AthWat · 19/04/2025 10:44

By defnition she doesn't like them, if she doesn't click with them. You are placing an interpretation on the words "don't like" that is unwarranted.

Ther's lots of people I don't like that I respect to a reasonable degree and interact civilly with when necessary. I still don't like them. They don't know that, and they wouldn't care.

It depends on why you don’t like someone. I tend to not like people who are rude to me or selfish or abrasive. Being shy doesn’t make someone a bad person and therefore not enough for me to say “I don’t like them”. You can choose to interpret in whatever way you want to. There’s lots of people I come across who I don’t click with but I wouldn’t say I don't like them.

fiorenza · 19/04/2025 10:45

She's not kind.

AthWat · 19/04/2025 10:44

Bringmeahigherlove · 19/04/2025 09:03

And? There will be people all through her life she clicks with and others she doesn’t. She doesn’t have to “not like them”. Teach her a life lesson.

By defnition she doesn't like them, if she doesn't click with them. You are placing an interpretation on the words "don't like" that is unwarranted.

Ther's lots of people I don't like that I respect to a reasonable degree and interact civilly with when necessary. I still don't like them. They don't know that, and they wouldn't care.

Branleuse · 19/04/2025 10:40

if a really shy kid said they didnt really like boisterous loud kids, I dont think people would say it was unkind.

Shy people dont always want to be befriended by the super confident ones. Its ok.

Branleuse · 19/04/2025 10:38

I think shes saying that she finds shy children hard to read and therefore hard work. Im sure she doesnt hate people for being shy.
You dont say how old she is, but I think "dont like" is quite a catch all phrase for a lot of nuanced feelings in kids.

Bingbopboomboomboombopbam · 19/04/2025 10:33

@JudasTree I meant more the way some users were quick to snap at OP’s child.

I was - hell, still am - a painfully shy kid and never felt entitled to other people talking to me, though. Every kid copes with their shyness differently.

Topsy44 · 19/04/2025 10:31

Depending on her age I would try and explain to her a bit about how people are not just one thing, ie, ‘children can sometimes feel shy, sometimes feel outgoing etc.’ and how she can feel some empathy if a child is feeling uncomfortable in a situation.

Cotonsugar · 19/04/2025 10:29

TortolaParadise · 19/04/2025 04:24

Smiles can be insincere though

So true. Like when someone says whilst smiling, “we must have coffee together one day” and you know they don’t have any intention of doing so😂

Kitchensnails · 19/04/2025 10:29

For instance, I notice a weird kind of entitlement in some ‘Nobody talks to me at school pick-up’ posts on here, as though the onus is always on the other people to include them, having somehow intuited that standing alone means they are desperate to talk and in fact have a heart of gold under an uninterested-looking exterior. I’m not suggesting they don’t, obviously, but it’s expecting an awful lot of total strangers to intuit how you’d like to be treated, and decide whether ‘monosyllabic’ means ‘Go away, not interested, just here to pick up child and get on with my day’ or ‘I’m desperate to talk to you but crippled by extreme shyness’, and, if they decide the latter is the case, to persevere with someone who gives every indication of wishing they’d sod off.

I agree with this, if you come across as unapproachable unintentionally then it's not really fair to judge people for leaving you out. For every person who would welcome someone initiating a conversation there would likely be 5 that hated it and claimed it made them feel uncomfortable. It's fine to be however you are and no one should feel they need to change, but people will react to it.