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Aibu to write to the house seller?

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ButterMelonCauliflower · 18/04/2025 10:56

Long story short… we have sold our house but nowhere to buy. We want to stay local and understand the local housing market.
There’s a house we like but it’s out of our price range. We think it’s over-valued (massive development planned next door to the property - probably why owners are selling). The agent it’s on with has a reputation for overvaluing and the vendors are asking way more than local average increase in the 10 years that they’ve owned it. They tried to sell 2 years ago but failed. Since then the asking price has gone up for no obvious reason.
Two weeks ago we offered 18% below asking price and were rejected.
Yesterday we offered 15% below but agent says they are not willing to negotiate.

AIBU unreasonable to contact them, explaining that we love the house, are not trying to take the piss and are hoping they might reconsider?

YES you are BU. It’s their house and they can ask what they like

NO you are not BU. A letter can’t hurt as long as it’s not too bossy/pushy

Any thoughts?

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LoyalJadeRobin · 19/04/2025 04:18

I think if the house hasn’t sold in so long, they might not be overly interested in moving until house prices rise. I am seeing many houses sitting on the market, reduced or relisted in my area because people believe their house is now worth XYZ - in reality, houses are worth what people can afford or are willing to pay.

As a seller I wouldn’t be offended by a letter, but if I were you I’d just tell the EA that’s your offer and keep looking. The seller can take it or leave it.

Summerlilly · 19/04/2025 03:59

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Excuse me?
You’ve gone to the very last post of this thread and decided to randomly quote me, even though I just echoed the sediment of 90% of the posters on here to explain what exactly?
Maybe quote the Op and ask her why her research is telling her the house is over the
market value for the area? Ask her to explain herself.
You’ve also not quoted anyone else or the posters who told the Op to do it. Maybe ask them why they feel that she should do it?
The only person being ‘abusive’ well bullying right now is you.

Meadowfinch · 19/04/2025 03:27

Tootiredtowhat · 18/04/2025 11:01

I had a buyer that kept by passing the agent and it was horribly stressful. People employ agents as experts, but also as buffers. You are trampling on all normal boundaries by contacting them directly. It wouldn’t make me more likely to sell to you if you did this.

They don’t have to sell to you. You’ve put out your offer, it’s been rejected. Just because you think it’s right doesn’t make it so.

This. You may offend the vendor. I had someone try to bypass my agent, write to me and then turn up on the doorstep. I couldn't get rid of him fast enough. People employ an agent for a reason.

I sold to someone else after that.

Zone2NorthLondon · 19/04/2025 03:20

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JazzyBBBG · 19/04/2025 03:00

Do it. We did and it worked for us. Turns out the agent was utter shite and not passing all offers on.

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Zone2NorthLondon · 19/04/2025 02:13

Price is what the buyer will pay. Seller is not compelled to sell at low price, why would they?
A schmaltzy letter is really cheeky subterfuge to get a price reduction

Summerlilly · 19/04/2025 02:08

Zone2NorthLondon · 19/04/2025 01:53

Obviously one will sell at best possible price
Not just sell because of a schmaltzy letter asking for a reduced price because op can’t afford the ask price

What?

The housing market is inflated, the growth on these homes is unnatural. You can ask what you want, doesn’t mean you’ll get it.

Also I didn’t tell the Op to write the letter.
Some Vendors do like to sell their family home to a family over an investor. Where a letter could be helpful

Zone2NorthLondon · 19/04/2025 01:53

Summerlilly · 19/04/2025 01:50

Sometimes I feel it could be helpful, in this situation I don’t think it will.
The sellers and EA are trying to continue to support the inflation of the market and get well more than they are asking for.
The letter won’t help cause they know they are being a CF.
I would just wait patiently, it will backfire on them and they won’t sell. Most people don’t have the money anymore to join in on the market atm.
The vendors will learn hard way.

Obviously one will sell at best possible price
Not just sell because of a schmaltzy letter asking for a reduced price because op can’t afford the ask price

Summerlilly · 19/04/2025 01:50

Sometimes I feel it could be helpful, in this situation I don’t think it will.
The sellers and EA are trying to continue to support the inflation of the market and get well more than they are asking for.
The letter won’t help cause they know they are being a CF.
I would just wait patiently, it will backfire on them and they won’t sell. Most people don’t have the money anymore to join in on the market atm.
The vendors will learn hard way.

Bonniethetiler · 18/04/2025 22:40

ButterMelonCauliflower · 18/04/2025 13:38

It’s not really like that though, is it?

It is, it really is. In fact as analogies go, that one makes the point well.

Thing is, we are all different. You say that you "don't understand" why writing a letter might be rude, and that's because you'd not be unhappy to receive one. Fair enough. But that's not likely to be everyone else's take, as has been explained in the replies you've had.

You also say you don't understand why people want to communicate only through the agent. I do. If nothing else, they are being paid a lot of money to do a job, and when I've bought & sold I've always expected the agent to earn their fee. One house I sold because of bad neighbours - I didn't even want to meet my buyers, let alone speak to them, as I wanted nothing to do with the process (and unless someone has sold a house knowing the neighbours were from hell, no one can understand the worry and embarrassment that can be felt by having to off-load the problem onto some other unsuspecting bugger).

It could also be that their insistence that communication is via the agent only is a polite way of saying they don't want to speak to you again.

rainingsnoring · 18/04/2025 22:36

Bumpitybumper · 18/04/2025 17:29

Again, this is hugely area dependent and reduced asking prices don't mean anything unless actual sold prices are lower. The House Price Index shows that sold prices increased in the UK last year in most regions and some showed strong growth. Last year wasn't a great year economically and interest rates were higher than they will probably be going forward.

I agree that it is area dependent and have said so on previous posts. I don't think many areas are rising quickly though. It's nothing like 2021 now.
The ONS HPI figures are getting constantly revised down and the degree of revisions has increased considerably. They are pretty unreliable. There is a poster called Mark Tabrett who analyses their data and covers this on X if you are interested. I would suggest that things are worsening economically at a faster rate and visibly so. This is why I can't see rapid rises; the opposite, in fact.

Tbrh · 18/04/2025 22:07

I wouldn't bother as it sounds like they have been quite clear

TankFlyBossW4lk · 18/04/2025 21:51

Hi OP, I've been the vendor in a situation which was similar. I was offered 400k less than the asking price. The estate agent reported back that they thought it was overvalued and theirs was a perfectly reasonable offer and we'll just have to lower the price later on, so we might as well sell now. I just ignored it to be honest. I thought I'd never sell to someone so difficult, so thankfully they were miles off.

We got an offer 50k less than asking price 4 weeks later.

Selling a house takes such a long time and there are so many points of potential failure and upset, I really wouldn't start with putting in an offer widely off the mark and then contact the vendor. It's a bit odd in the nicest possible way.

DollydaydreamTheThird · 18/04/2025 21:45

You my friend are a cheeky fucker! Sorry I'm sure you're a lovely person but you are a cheeky fucker!

ButterMelonCauliflower · 18/04/2025 21:25

surreygirlzz · 18/04/2025 17:29

How do you know that do you check the address on Land Reg.
Also if the vendor sells to you after you have been introduced by the agent they will be sued by the agent of they find out and will be liable for solicitors and court costs
They are certain to do so when they drive by maybe months later and see you leaving the house
The vendor would be insane to sell to you

You can check sold house prices easily online. I’m not suggesting bypassing the agent

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Papyrophile · 18/04/2025 20:45

I am quite interested in the market psychology. We have lived in and love our house for almost 30 years. But it is not close to friends and family so we would like to move. But our current house is so wonderful, we are struggling with all the compromises we would have to make.

Jc2001 · 18/04/2025 18:26

AthWat · 18/04/2025 12:01

Estate agents generally overvalue to get the business and then drop the price after a while; rather than to inflate their own commission.

Exactly. The difference in commission is insignificant compared to the hassle of having a house on their books for months on end that's not selling because it's overvalued.

They'd much rather take a marginal reduction in commission for a faster sale.

LoobyLott · 18/04/2025 18:17

They can't negotiate with you outside of their estate agent because they'll have signed an agreement to that effect.

surreygirlzz · 18/04/2025 17:33

I was selling a house when we had an offer of 10% below asking
No way would I sell to that person as I deemed they were chancers and timewasters
They eventually came back and offered close to asking price by which time we had other offers and had no interest in dealing with them
Problem is the agent may also think you are a time waster now and not take you seriously

Bumpitybumper · 18/04/2025 17:29

rainingsnoring · 18/04/2025 16:35

Sorry but I can't agree with you. There are multiple reductions all over Rightmove, developers struggling to sell new builds and the economy is clearly struggling and expected to worsen in the next year and onwards. I agree that some areas will do better but don't think there are many areas where prices are 'rising quickly' and far more where they are falling now.

Again, this is hugely area dependent and reduced asking prices don't mean anything unless actual sold prices are lower. The House Price Index shows that sold prices increased in the UK last year in most regions and some showed strong growth. Last year wasn't a great year economically and interest rates were higher than they will probably be going forward.

surreygirlzz · 18/04/2025 17:29

ButterMelonCauliflower · 18/04/2025 14:41

I’ve looked. The majority that do sell go for way under asking

How do you know that do you check the address on Land Reg.
Also if the vendor sells to you after you have been introduced by the agent they will be sued by the agent of they find out and will be liable for solicitors and court costs
They are certain to do so when they drive by maybe months later and see you leaving the house
The vendor would be insane to sell to you

fiveIsNewOne · 18/04/2025 17:21

When you say you've sold you mean that you have a buyer, but the sell isn't really completed and done?

Maybe they have some specific house in mind which they would like to buy, but can't afford it if they sell this for less than X. In such case either they find a buyer who is compatible with their plans or stay there.