Aibu to write to the house seller?

The seller have indicated twice they won’t lower price
Enough waffle about trying to cut a deal,and directly schmooze. It’s tacky and tone deaf

You will look like a crazy stalker if you do.

You have nothing to lose by contacting the sellers directly, given that you presumably will never have any contact with them again about any other issue if you don’t buy their house. So they may think you are annoying people but as long as you are polite and don’t harass them, nobody suffers.

If I really wanted to change their minds, I would talk to them rather than send a letter. That way you can gauge what they really care about and perhaps even charm them. But that is NOT the right approach unless you’re good at talking to people and good at listening - humble, polite, respectful and so on.

Subtleties do get lost when you go through estate agents. Every time I’ve bought/sold a house a point has come when I’ve begun to think that the buyer/seller is a bit of an awkward customer. At that point I’ve got hold of their contact details, contacted them directly and discovered they are very reasonable - everything was just getting lost in translation a bit.

Seriously? 😂

What position of strength? Under offering to a buyer who has declined previous offer. LOL, Don't make yourself Look weak? Is that your Phil Mitchell pep talk. Dont worry Nothing weak going on at all , just a spot of brass neck and ohh ahhh

I wouldn’t write to them. It makes you look desperate so they will just be waiting for you to improve your offer.
I would go back to the agent, renew your original offer of 18% below and just leave it there and outwait them. If they are wasting money paying the mortgage when they have a firm offer, that’s up to them.
You are negotiating from a position of strength so don’t make yourself look weak.

As a Seller I would not accept a second viewing from someone who has offered 18% under asking (rejected) followed by 15% under asking ( rejected).

The EA will have passed the offers on as they are legally required to do.

OP just has to accept they can’t afford this house.

She has asked - TWICE!

So is that the advice you'd give your boys if a girl firmly turned them down twice?

Keep asking? Wear her down until she say says???

Unless you think the EA hasn't even mentioned your offer then decidedly not... I'd probably arrange a second viewing and try to mention that you've made two offers so you're considering options/value for money and see what they say...

Our Vendors couldn't go below a certain price because they needed it to buy their new place. Luckily it was only a couple of thousand more than what we wanted to offer.

Writing a letter will just encourage the seller to stick at a higher price, you’ll seem desperate. Move on.

I know you have mixed responses but you could write explain you loved there house and the offer was only because it is maximum amount you can afford and it wasn’t meant to offend them and you already had your buyer so you thought that might help the chain. If you don’t hear back then you know it’s not going to happen but you tried. You won’t regret it and when you look at other houses you won’t be pining for something you can’t have.

In most towns there are houses that don't sell.
We tried to buy one. Not willing to negotiate even though the house needed expensive work vs the others that sold at that price.
We've lived here nearly 8 years and that house still goes up for sale every 18 months or so.
I'd not bother in your shoes, there will be better vendors.

Wait 6 weeks, if its still on the market offer again at the same price. You could write the vendors a letter but do it via the agent.

Don’t do this. If it’s meant to be your home then they’ll come to their senses and reduce the price. For now, just keep looking and you may find something you like even better.

Edited to say- This is my tactic on Vinted. Put in a cheeky offer on things that have had little interest and just wait. It has about a 60/70% success rate with the seller either reducing or coming back to me with a counter offer when they realise I’m the only one who’s interested.

it shows nothing of the sort.....could as easily show that the writer is an annoying whiney CF.

YANBU, I had buyers like this; chip chip chip with trying to renegotiate and I had to threaten via the agent that I wouldn't sell to them at any price if they didn't pack it in.

I was delighted to see they made zero (taking into account stamp duty) when they sold 3 years later, because their "upgrades" looked shit. Couldn't happen to a better pair.

I would be very wary that, if somebody offered low and was rejected and so they revised their offer up significantly, their tactic would just be to get their foot in the door, with the full intention of finding or engineering a way to get the price back down to what they wanted to pay much further along the line.

I have already agreed with you on the first point.

Re Mark Tabrett, the ONS have publicly down adjusted all their data so it isn't a case of him claiming anything. The ONS figures also keeps adjusting their recent figures for a year plus as standard but the downwards revisions have been more greater in the past couple of years or so. This can be confirmed on their website. I suspect he is right about the motivation. Certain narratives are extremely unhelpful and house price falls is one. The same deliberate manipulation of data wrt economic indicators has been going on in the US. We will see what happens over the next few years.

That’s quite literally how the housing market works, most of the time you put it in for £X, knowing you’d accept £Y. If you put the house on for the price (£Y) you’d accept you likely won’t get it as people always want to buy for less than asking. I’m not sure you know as much as you think.

I had a seller keep trying to pass me info, via a mutual acquaintance and it was so annoying and intimidating because they were trying to change my mind. I walked away from the sale, it's never a good idea to bypass the EA.

I don't think prices will rise rapidly uniformly but there are definite areas of the country where this is happening. I visited one last week and it was tangible how different this market was compared to my home town market which absolutely isn't rising.

I am very wary of people like Mark Tabrett. I notified that some of his data was used to inform a Telegraph article which simultaneously claimed that house prices have been dropping in real terms since 2009 and were also in a 'bubble'. Mark seems to claim that housing prices have been overstated for over a decade and it's not a new phenomena. Again this could quite possibly be the case but he seems to be claiming that property was never worth what people believed and figures are being massaged to manipulate current house price data upwards to show an artificial rise.

Yes, I'd write a letter.

It's NOT a bad thing to lay out just how much you love the house - it shows you're serious and wouldn't pull out at the 11th hour or risk pissing about.

Keep in mind they might be tricky sellers though. Have they found an onward purchase? I'd be concerned they're not serious about moving.

Write. Expect nothing.

You may have decided that they are chancers and time wasters but house valuations aren’t an exact science and people do buy houses at 10% less than asking, the last 2 houses I bought were, one in 2002 and one in 2023. Both were similar though, needed a lot of work and priced optimistically and given they both accepted about 10% off I guess they were aware and decided to try the market, saw they would need to drop to sell and did as it achieved what they wanted from the sale, as we did when we sold as getting moved to a different area was worth more to us than a certain amount of money.

You can’t generalise about sales too much as a lot of different factors come into play depending on the circumstances of the seller. Friends of mine accepted 550k on house up for 600k last year as were buying something else and had a bridging loan People we bought from were retiring early, had inherited the house , were happy for it not to be turned into flats and were pragmatic about the price.

The difference between these cases and the OP is all were prepared to negotiate but the vendor of the one the OP is interested had said a firm no which is why I personally wouldn’t write to them but we are all different and OP may decide to.

No dont don’t do it. It’s highly unlikely they will see their wrongdoings and more likely you will piss them off. Hopefully if they get no further offers/viewings they will accept your offer.