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Ghosted by my friend

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TessTimoney · 18/04/2025 09:47

A bit of background. We met at work and have been friends for over 12 years. Both divorced and single. We holiday together and attend the theatre, cinema and local cultural events together. Every Christmas we meet up with two ex-colleague's for pantomime, lunch and exchange gifts. This year I didn't fancy the the panto and neither did the two ex - colleagues. My friend suggested we just meet for lunch and exchange gifts. I said I was up for that and would invite the others. However, the others said they had lots on in December and would rather leave it to January and I agreed as I was also very busy. I told my friend via WhatsApp (our usual communication method) but she didn't respond. On Christmas eve I sent her a Christmas greeting and wished her a lovely Christmas. I received a curt "thanks". She has ignored my suggestions for theatre visits and all attempts to engage with her. I have asked her if I have done something to upset her but she hasn't responded. I know she isn't ill because she posts on social media daily! AIBU to think she is being childish?

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FantasiaTurquoise · 20/04/2025 23:56

Maybe, but then from her perspective maybe you've done things wrong. It doesn't really matter. If she was a good friend and you missed having her in your life you'd be willing to put it all behind you, reach out and repair things. But you don't so it looks like the friendship is over and you're ok with that.

TessTimoney · 20/04/2025 23:50

sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 20/04/2025 09:29

I'm interested in WHY you appear concerned that she's ignoring you. From what you've now said, I'd be pleased 😀

I didn't say I was concerned. I asked, AIBU to consider her childish. As time goes on I actually feel, not pleased, but relieved that I don't have to deal with her anymore.

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sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 20/04/2025 09:29

TessTimoney · 19/04/2025 08:44

She had booked a holiday abroad for Christmas because she "can't be bothered with all the religious/commercial nonsense. " and doesn't really like Christmas. We usually meet up every couple of weeks for coffee/lunch but she only wanted to meet up if the others were coming. She has cancelled meet ups with me frequently in the past with very little notice. The others have told me that they find her bossy and opionated but tolerate her because she is MY friend. She in turn has critised them but still asks me to arrange for us all to meet!

I'm interested in WHY you appear concerned that she's ignoring you. From what you've now said, I'd be pleased 😀

uncomfortablydumb60 · 19/04/2025 16:13

She’s got the( correct) impression that you’re not interested in meeting up.
You should have made an effort. It’s not on to back out just because others did

EmeraldRoulette · 19/04/2025 16:10

TessTimoney · 19/04/2025 15:57

She doesn't answered my calls or messages and despite being friends for over 12 years she has never invited me to her home. She told me that she had recently cut ties with two other long term friends, mainly because they didn't agree with her political opinions. Is she lonely or does she want to be alone?

Your first post was very lacking in important points.

I'm sorry OP, i know being ghosted is shit. But it doesn't sound like she was much of a friend.

ExpatMum41 · 19/04/2025 16:07

TessTimoney · 19/04/2025 15:57

She doesn't answered my calls or messages and despite being friends for over 12 years she has never invited me to her home. She told me that she had recently cut ties with two other long term friends, mainly because they didn't agree with her political opinions. Is she lonely or does she want to be alone?

Oof, you should've mentioned this in your OP, most answers would've probably been quite different; she actually does sound like hard work and someone who requires others to walk on eggshells around.

Honestly, she probably isn't a particularly happy person in general, and it also sounds like she's hell-bent on sabotaging her friendships over whatever she considers to be slights, being friends with people only in ways it suits her.

If I were you, I'd leave her to it. If she wants to take your apologies and reopen communications between you two, it's up to you if you respond, but I'd not bother pleading (because that's how it comes across) with her any more.

TessTimoney · 19/04/2025 15:57

ThatNimblePeer · 19/04/2025 10:47

The fact that she’s said she doesn’t like Christmas, and had booked a holiday out of the country, suggests it probably is a lonely/difficult time for her, and she put extra importance on meeting up for that reason. Was her perception that you were the one who first dropped out of the pantomime tradition, and the others then followed your lead?

I agree that you don’t have to go to the pantomime if you don’t want to, and that if you were willing to meet up for lunch one on one but she only wanted to meet with the others, there’s only so much you can do. But it sounds like the original plans were important to her and her perception is that you’re the one who made them fall apart. The only way to know for sure that that’s the issue of course is to ask her what’s wrong. I don’t personally think she’s being ‘childish’, loneliness is horrible and it can make you very sensitive to anything that feels like rejection. I think it comes down to how much you value the friendship and how much effort you are willing to put in trying to find out what’s wrong and make amends. Clearly, she’s hurt.

She doesn't answered my calls or messages and despite being friends for over 12 years she has never invited me to her home. She told me that she had recently cut ties with two other long term friends, mainly because they didn't agree with her political opinions. Is she lonely or does she want to be alone?

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EmeraldRoulette · 19/04/2025 11:11

@TessTimoney "We usually meet up every couple of weeks for coffee/lunch but she only wanted to meet up if the others were coming. She has cancelled meet ups with me frequently in the past with very little notice"

this puts a very different slant on it.

I realise that some people treat others badly because of their loneliness. But it sounds like it wasn't a good friendship generally.

ThatNimblePeer · 19/04/2025 10:47

TessTimoney · 19/04/2025 08:44

She had booked a holiday abroad for Christmas because she "can't be bothered with all the religious/commercial nonsense. " and doesn't really like Christmas. We usually meet up every couple of weeks for coffee/lunch but she only wanted to meet up if the others were coming. She has cancelled meet ups with me frequently in the past with very little notice. The others have told me that they find her bossy and opionated but tolerate her because she is MY friend. She in turn has critised them but still asks me to arrange for us all to meet!

The fact that she’s said she doesn’t like Christmas, and had booked a holiday out of the country, suggests it probably is a lonely/difficult time for her, and she put extra importance on meeting up for that reason. Was her perception that you were the one who first dropped out of the pantomime tradition, and the others then followed your lead?

I agree that you don’t have to go to the pantomime if you don’t want to, and that if you were willing to meet up for lunch one on one but she only wanted to meet with the others, there’s only so much you can do. But it sounds like the original plans were important to her and her perception is that you’re the one who made them fall apart. The only way to know for sure that that’s the issue of course is to ask her what’s wrong. I don’t personally think she’s being ‘childish’, loneliness is horrible and it can make you very sensitive to anything that feels like rejection. I think it comes down to how much you value the friendship and how much effort you are willing to put in trying to find out what’s wrong and make amends. Clearly, she’s hurt.

zingally · 19/04/2025 10:22

To be honest, friendships with ex-colleagues rarely last. Honestly, I wouldn't be falling over myself to meet up with ex-colleagues (even ones I was friendly with) from 12 years ago.

As you rejected her ideas, your friend is probably feeling a bit slighted and is pulling back. Keep reaching out, commenting/liking her social media posts etc, but the ball is in her court.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 19/04/2025 09:18

TessTimoney · 19/04/2025 08:44

She had booked a holiday abroad for Christmas because she "can't be bothered with all the religious/commercial nonsense. " and doesn't really like Christmas. We usually meet up every couple of weeks for coffee/lunch but she only wanted to meet up if the others were coming. She has cancelled meet ups with me frequently in the past with very little notice. The others have told me that they find her bossy and opionated but tolerate her because she is MY friend. She in turn has critised them but still asks me to arrange for us all to meet!

Well if she frequently cancels meet ups with you and doesn’t like to meet alone with you… then it’s probably more fizzled out than ghosting isn’t it.

TessTimoney · 19/04/2025 08:44

BlossomOfOrange · 18/04/2025 10:53

Being a single parent on occasions when families are often celebrating can be really lonely times when good friends are needed - Christmas, Easter, birthdays etc. even if your parents/siblings are still around which they may not be in your friend’s case. That meet up at Christmas might be the highlight for the period for her, the connection that makes her feel valued and not alone, that stabilises her at a fraught time. All three of you flaked, you don’t have good reasons eg you’re in hospital. You’ve all deprioritised her. Why would she willingly put herself in that position again? For her to connect with you again she likely will need to feel safe with you again, that she can trust you. If you want her to be your friend you will need to work hard now, say what you are sorry for, express the kind of friend you want to be, and hope she’s willing.

She had booked a holiday abroad for Christmas because she "can't be bothered with all the religious/commercial nonsense. " and doesn't really like Christmas. We usually meet up every couple of weeks for coffee/lunch but she only wanted to meet up if the others were coming. She has cancelled meet ups with me frequently in the past with very little notice. The others have told me that they find her bossy and opionated but tolerate her because she is MY friend. She in turn has critised them but still asks me to arrange for us all to meet!

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2024onwardsandup · 18/04/2025 15:43

ToKittyornottoKitty · 18/04/2025 10:57

Was she really busy before Christmas too? Or did that meet up matter quite a lot to her? How come you couldn’t fit your friend in for a lunch when it was just her but were happy to do it if the 2 other people came?

This

and she’d probably already bought you a present

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 18/04/2025 15:43

I read this and I imagined being in your friend shoes.

i suspect she really needed or was really looking forward to the catch up / outing. Ie it was something special in her calendar and maybe her Christmas period wasn't jam packed.

I have gone to tonnes of stuff I felt very meh about because a friend or relative wanted to go or it was just a nice excuse to see them.

You (collectively) were pretty indifferent to the whole thing and it was basically binned off twice.

That is going to hurt.

She is also probably feeling like you thought she wasn't "worth" meeting solo.

Again that's going to hurt.

ChocolatesAndRainbows · 18/04/2025 15:36

Put yourself in her shoes. Every year she meets up with a friend and this year because two other ppl didn't want to do it neither did you. It probably made her feel like you aren't that bothered about seeing her.

GroovyChick87 · 18/04/2025 15:36

She's probably taken a step back because she feels that no one in the friendship group is really that bothered. You should communicate with her and make an effort to see her if the friendship is important to you.

IsawwhatIsaw · 18/04/2025 15:29

I think you let her down, your actions suggested it was only worth meeting up if the other friends came too.
And at a festive but often lonely time of the year. She’s probably recalibrated the friendship and I don’t blame her tbh. I think it was hurtful , even quick lunch would have showed you wanted to see her.

MoominMai · 18/04/2025 15:20

I hope OP you’re taking note of the replies here. It seems your friend compromised with you and the others already by dropping the panto and then you and the others repaid that by dropping all the Xmas plan and wanting a catch up in Jan which is hardly the same thing. She’s likely feeling hurt and rejected and yes YABU thinking she’s being childish. She’s upset and protecting herself from further hurt and rejection I imagine because you didn’t consider her feelings in all this but just followed suit with the others immediately when they said they didn’t even want to meet for the lunch.

ThatNimblePeer · 18/04/2025 14:59

She’s probably got a lot of friends with families who don’t have time for her at Christmas. She was relying on you to be the friend who did have time, but then you did to her what all the others were doing and probably made her feel lonelier. If you want to try and salvage the friendship you need to spell out to her in clear terms how important she is to you, that you recognise you fucked up with something that was important, and apologise. You need to do it by phone or in person, not on WhatsApp.

Flocke · 18/04/2025 14:30

I agree with others that she may well have been looking forward to seeing friends and everyone just basically couldn’t be bothered. So now she can’t be bothered. I don’t know why you didn’t want to meet just because the others didn’t? Why not say well Tina and Mary can’t come but shall we do something? Because by saying they can’t come so let’s just leave it you’re saying to her that you don’t want to see her alone and it’s really just the other people you want to see. And that’s fine if that’s how you feel. But you can’t then get annoyed that she now doesn’t really want to see or speak to you either.

EmeraldRoulette · 18/04/2025 14:20

It's really hard being the person that no one prioritises

She's probably pulling back to protect her own feelings. If I put myself in her place, I might respond to a genuine gesture which shows that she's important. But it depends on a lot of context and if you have done this to her before.

She might also just have taken on board that she's not important and left it there. She may not wish to be hurt anymore.

If you had time to see her, I don't know why you didn't just see her. Why did you need the other two? Does the friendship not stand on its own merit? I guess not, from what you're saying.

BlossomOfOrange · 18/04/2025 12:25

Also, do you have form for flaking on arrangements with her? May be this was the last straw for your friend

sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 18/04/2025 12:15

PaintYourAssLikeRembrandt · 18/04/2025 11:51

Your whole attitude was basically that she's not worth meeting up with unless the others are there too. Pretty hurtful for her. Don't blame her for stopping communication.

This ^

CherubEarrings · 18/04/2025 12:06

PaintYourAssLikeRembrandt · 18/04/2025 11:51

Your whole attitude was basically that she's not worth meeting up with unless the others are there too. Pretty hurtful for her. Don't blame her for stopping communication.

This. Sorry OP I think you were wrong to do this. I doubt the friendship can be salvaged.

PaintYourAssLikeRembrandt · 18/04/2025 11:51

Your whole attitude was basically that she's not worth meeting up with unless the others are there too. Pretty hurtful for her. Don't blame her for stopping communication.