To think I can't be the only person who doesn't know a single trans person

I just saw a transman on tiktok, I genuinely wouldn't have known they weren't a man if they hadn't have said. I must be pretty dumb 😭

So, you don't even have your own opinion about how often the clothes should be worn to make them trans. So why offer your opinion that occasional wearing doesn't make them trans?

I'm not derailing anything.

You're avoiding answering a very very simple question, after making a statement about how often wearing women's clothing makes someone trans.

I now two older men who identify as trans women.

Tenn and young girls, lots, numerous friends of my kids, kids of people I know from work or other places,kids of cousins.The majority seem to have other issues . Actually - all of them, the one who didn't' desisted.

Yes I’ve known 2 or 3, worked with one. I don’t buy the ‘you wouldn’t know’ line because as much as many think they ‘pass’ the majority really don’t. One of the ‘Transwomen’ I know has a full beard FFS.

My adult son was in a band with a transman. I had not the slightest clue until he told me.
I had thought that he looked rather young for his age but that’s all.

Who is "afraid" of them?

Women are afraid of predators. We don't know what they typically look like however typically they are not female. They are male.

If a male disguises himself as a woman, then I have every right to be scared.

Yeah I wasn’t ’quite insistant’, it was one sentence. The argument on this thread isn’t about whether trans women are really women, so I’m not derailing by arguing with you. Try reading the OP rather than just looking for a bun fight.

Maybe they just don't like you?

I don’t know any trans women, but I know two trans men. One is the child of a colleague, the other is a choir teacher.

I worked in schools all my life and never knew any trans or non-binary people

They're not. They're scared of the men that abuse the rules/systems to attack and rape women. The men that expose themselves to women. The men that gain access to young girls... The men that take women's achievements away from them... The men that take the place if the women on sports teams.... The men that assault them.

Don't be ridiculous.

I worked with someone who for two years identified as a woman before giving it up. That was during the pandemic era, and we had one team member who'd never met him, but had spoken to him many times over Teams. That person was genuinely shocked to find out the truth. But if he had met the transwoman, it would have been immediately obvious.

Funny how they can never actually answer these questions… It’s almost as if it’s all utter bollocks!

Yes I know some trans people.

If there are so few of them, why is everyone so scared of them?!

I do know 2 girls (circa 19 and 20) who say they are "non binary". I feel so sorry for them.

They have let themselves go. They don't seem to care about their looks or their weight. When I bump in to them (with their parents out walking) they seem sullen and completely disinterested.

They (sisters) are now two very physically unattractive girls. One, definetely has some sort of autism.

Their poor parents. The evilness of this cult means they are almost powerless to stop this. The girls are both at a university which is promoting the cult.

So ... You don't know? You seemed quite insistent that "occasional" wearing doesn't make them trans, so you must at least have an opinion on how often the clothes are needed to be worn to make someone trans...

Oh wait, because perhaps maybe a man wearing a dress doesn't make them a woman, no matter how often they wear it? Because maybe men can't actually be women?

The MN 'you can always tell' line always tickles me. Sure, if someone looks like Brian Blessed in a frock and size 14 courts it's a fair shout that they probably weren't born female. I worked with someone for years before discovering she was a trans woman. She just seemed like a certain type of dowdy middle class woman to me.

Many you won't know unless they tell you. I have two family members and at least one friend of the family members who say they are trans. Probably loads more. Especially if you include non binary as trans because they don't make any changes to their appearance.

All of them look like their original sex. The only difference is a name change and sometimes clothing.

This reads like ‘because I don’t know any, it can’t be much of an issue’. Just know, your life and radius of what and who you ‘know’ or are aware of is tiny in the grand scheme of things.

I don't know any, but I see trans women around, on the tube, in restaurants, in pubs, ladies toilets at Westfield shopping centre, working in shops. I don't believe they pass unnoticed because I think women in particular pick up subtle clues about people.

I don't know any trans people nor does anyone I know

There's one who lives around here. I don't know him. He likes to go into the charity shop and finger all the women's clothes on the hangers, and try to get the old lady staff to join him in a conversation about what "us girls" like to wear. Have witnessed this three times I think it's quite sad but some people seem creeped out or angered by his insistence that other people join in.

Again, google it yourself.