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To let you know that Ocado think women’s rights are “hateful political views”?

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SidewaysOtter · 17/04/2025 18:36

Have a look at MNHQ’s post on this thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5316215-thank-you-mnhq?reply=143605436&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

“When we included a call to clarify the definition of sex in the Equality Act in our 2024 Mumsnet Manifesto, Ocado – who had been excited about a partnership – abruptly pulled out, citing Mumsnet’s “hateful political views”. Despite repeated attempts to explain our position – as a platform committed to amplifying women’s voices – they’ve refused to speak to us ever since.”

I was about to start shopping with them for occasional “stocking up” deliveries but they won’t be getting a penny of my money if this is their view of women’s rights. Obviously not everyone feels as I do but I should imagine women make up the majority of their customers. I won’t support a business that thinks women’s rights - or even just women being given a space in which to speak and discuss - is “hateful”.

So fuck off, Ocado, and you can take your hateful political views with you.

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TheMimsy · 18/04/2025 09:24

Realistically which high street shop or supermarket hasn’t said similar.

go check them all out. See what few shops you can now use.

AnSolas · 18/04/2025 08:33

@JustSawJohnny
Rightly or wrongly, Mumsnet has a bad reputation and I can understand why companies might want to avoid being linked to it.

[(Edit) PS i am not objecting to you opting to keep using the service ]

Did you miss that the management would have done their basic research before looking for a business expansion off the users of MN and only has a system meltdown when MN explained they supported women
Ocado – who had been excited about a partnership – abruptly pulled out, citing Mumsnet’s “hateful political views”

It suggests that they did reduce their profit making options for political reaons and/or the culture and therefore their onboarding checks has an anti-woman bias which keeps men as the "most important" sub-group in their community outlook.

I noticed they have a gender pay gap and want to have "40% female" employees in senior positions so appointing a female chimpanzee would tick the female box.

If MN has hateful political views what do the management think about the same view held by the majority of their employees.

EasterParadeHats · 18/04/2025 08:04

Has anyone emailed ocado yet about this

ConstructionTime · 18/04/2025 01:05

Somethingthecatdraggedin7 · 17/04/2025 21:10

This is so annoying because I bloody love my ocado deliveries.
I’m housebound and need to buy pretty much everything and anything online.
Between boycotting companies which are anti women, trying to make sure my choices are ethical to animals / workers / the environment and doing my best to avoid any products from trump’s america I may soon starve in an empty house!
I think I might email ocado and tell them that I hold “hateful political views” and ask if they want to cancel my smart pass and lose my business.

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If you're housebound and don't have many other good alternatives of reliable supermarket delivery, you don't have to cut the branch you're sitting on.
There are so many annoying companies, plenty to choose from you can boycott instead 😉
This is similar to "I have 50€ and need to clothe 4 kids" - "you should boycott fast fashion and buy organic moonspun wool from the handmade farm".
If something is simply not possible, skip that part and maybe look for something else that would be possible instead.
Everybody does their part for the better, we don't have to all contribute the same part.

BundleBoogie · 17/04/2025 23:20

CaptainCarrotsBigSword · 17/04/2025 18:36

Fuck off Ocado indeed.

Agreed.

Theseventhmagpie · 17/04/2025 23:04

I didn’t know this- I do now and they can foxtrot off 😡

Hastentoadd · 17/04/2025 22:59

SidewaysOtter · 17/04/2025 22:51

Rightly or wrongly, Mumsnet has a bad reputation and I can understand why companies might want to avoid being linked to it.

So why were Ocado happy to go into partnership the first place, knowing full well that MN is seen, in certain quarters, as a hotbed of feminist sedition (also known as “women discussing things”)?

They wanted to tap into a core customer base to make more money, I suspect, then flounced off when women dared have an opinion they didn’t like.

They wanted to tap into a core customer base to make more money, I suspect, then flounced off when women dared have an opinion they didn’t

Exactly, they are flip flopping, it makes them look idiotic

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SidewaysOtter · 17/04/2025 22:51

Rightly or wrongly, Mumsnet has a bad reputation and I can understand why companies might want to avoid being linked to it.

So why were Ocado happy to go into partnership the first place, knowing full well that MN is seen, in certain quarters, as a hotbed of feminist sedition (also known as “women discussing things”)?

They wanted to tap into a core customer base to make more money, I suspect, then flounced off when women dared have an opinion they didn’t like.

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JandamiHash · 17/04/2025 22:41

MN only has a bad reputation with people who don’t like it when women gather and talk about important things. Which is an alarming number of people.

They wouldn’t mind it if all we spoke about was breastfeeding, nappies and housework. They HATE that’s not all MN is about. It’s misogyny driven

JustSawJohnny · 17/04/2025 22:39

Rightly or wrongly, Mumsnet has a bad reputation and I can understand why companies might want to avoid being linked to it.

I'm guilty of it myself. There are definitely people I'd never admit to using this site to, not because I feel bad about it but because they absolutely will not be convinced that Mumsnet isn't a literal hot bed of hate where every single thread is TERF dominated.

I cannot be arsed with it, or the judgement I'd receive for using it, even though they are wrong.

Anyway, I like Ocado and they're the best grocery delivery service I've ever used so I'll be staying.

Meadowfinch · 17/04/2025 22:14

QuillBill · 17/04/2025 19:36

People who give them money every week do care though. You don’t use them so you may not care.

They aren’t a glorified delivery boy either. They are a company whose gross profits are £796.4 million.

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But they offer nothing unique, and can be easily dispensed with.

CrackSpackle · 17/04/2025 22:12

News to me but I won’t be shopping with them again. Used to spend a fortune on Nike great as well until they had a dude modelling a sports bra.

ZenNudist · 17/04/2025 22:08

Had no intention of shopping with them anyway. Don't they deliver for Morrison's? I bet Morrisons don't want dragging into a PR blunder like this. I mean, women (the adult human female type) must make up a very large percentage of their customer base.

StarDolphins · 17/04/2025 22:06

I’ve just changed from Tesco to Ocado & as I shop for myself & my mum, I spend over £200pw but I’m not happy with this at all😩

Youtookmyhandle · 17/04/2025 22:03

@MyShiningTigerLight I know plenty of men who do the weekly shop. My DH does it as I can bear food shopping.

Hastentoadd · 17/04/2025 22:03

SidewaysOtter · 17/04/2025 18:36

Have a look at MNHQ’s post on this thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5316215-thank-you-mnhq?reply=143605436&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

“When we included a call to clarify the definition of sex in the Equality Act in our 2024 Mumsnet Manifesto, Ocado – who had been excited about a partnership – abruptly pulled out, citing Mumsnet’s “hateful political views”. Despite repeated attempts to explain our position – as a platform committed to amplifying women’s voices – they’ve refused to speak to us ever since.”

I was about to start shopping with them for occasional “stocking up” deliveries but they won’t be getting a penny of my money if this is their view of women’s rights. Obviously not everyone feels as I do but I should imagine women make up the majority of their customers. I won’t support a business that thinks women’s rights - or even just women being given a space in which to speak and discuss - is “hateful”.

So fuck off, Ocado, and you can take your hateful political views with you.

I should imagine women make up the majority of their customers

They definitely do,
They didn’t really think that one through

TheProvincialLady · 17/04/2025 21:54

Sarah2891 · 17/04/2025 21:51

I think you'll find they think the same as Ocado.

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What have Waitrose said on the issue? I have missed this.

MyShiningTigerLight · 17/04/2025 21:51

It as if these retail places forget who does the weekly shopping! 😂

Sarah2891 · 17/04/2025 21:51

JandamiHash · 17/04/2025 21:45

Thank you OP, I was gonna do my first shop tomorrow and will be using Waitrose instead.

I think you'll find they think the same as Ocado.

Sarah2891 · 17/04/2025 21:48

I didn't know but it won't stop me using them. They've always been a great service.

JandamiHash · 17/04/2025 21:45

Thank you OP, I was gonna do my first shop tomorrow and will be using Waitrose instead.

PatsFruitCake · 17/04/2025 21:43

I struggle to get my head round why a company who's primary business is selling groceries would decide they need to spend time "educating their customer base". It's like the ultimate in mansplaining.

Just sell food you fuckers 🙄

AuraBora · 17/04/2025 21:42

Thanks for sharing. I'll definitely never use Ocado now!

EasterParadeHats · 17/04/2025 21:42

I can't use twitter but I wonder how many companies have actually cut somewhere like Mumsnet dead like this?

I wonder if jk herself knows?

TheProvincialLady · 17/04/2025 21:40

I’m not surprised to hear it. I was one of those who cancelled my subscription, told them why and stopped shopping with Ocado when they made their ridiculous twitter statement. A woman rang me to try to persuade me to keep my account but her apology was of the ‘we shouldn’t have waded into this issue online’ variety rather than the ‘of course women are adult female humans and to claim that it is hate speech to say so is ridiculous and offensive’ it should have been. They must have missed out on many thousands of pounds of my business since. Waitrose should send them a thank you card!