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BIL's new GF laughed at me and called me weird - AIBU

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comeandhaveteawithme · 17/04/2025 12:29

DH's brother got a new girlfriend around Christmas time. At the end of January, he brought her round to an evening gathering at our house.

At first it seemed to be going OK. The girl was really quiet and barely said a word at first which I put down to shyness.

During the evening, our DS (11) came downstairs from his room and said he was a bit scared because he'd heard a freaky noise outside. I said "oh, was it a screeching sound?" He said it was I said "it will be the foxes mating cry, don't worry about it, they always mate at the end of January" DS went back to bed, reassured.

The GF let out a high pitch screech of laughter and said "You KNOW exactly when foxes have sex! That's SO WIERD" with this continued high pitched laugh. Baring in mind she'd barely said a word all night and the first thing she says is that I'm weird, in my own house, I thought it was pretty rude of her.

But I just tried to be polite and said "oh..yeah..Well I'm interested in wildlife and I like foxes so I remember they mate in January and have their cubs in March" and then she sort of wrinkled her nose and gave a side eye so I felt awkward and carried blethering on and said "I quite like hearing them because it reminds me spring is coming". And she laughed again and said "you like hearing foxes have sex, so weird" then the subject changed.

Now BIL has suggested we all go out together for an evening at a pub.

AIBU to not really fancy it? First impressions of the GF really weren't great. She was rude and made me uncomfortable while a guest in my house and pretty much the only thing she said all night was to make fun of me. She also came across extremely immature.

DH thinks I'm too sensitive and should give her another chance.

OP posts:
DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 17/04/2025 16:10

LePetitMaman · 17/04/2025 12:38

I'm with you OP. I don't see what she said as nervous clumsy conversation. If she'd said it once perhaps, but she repeatedly said things and pulled faces to mock you, in your own home. I think she sounds like a bit of a prat... But there is a small chance it was nerves.

On that basis I would go out with them, because you'll know for sure by the end of the meal if it was the former or the latter.

I agree with this.
You weren't being too sensitive. It was odd behaviour to say nothing and then pipe up on something like that. From your post it comes across like she was trying to take the pee. She was deliberately rude to call you weird and make such a thing of it.

However, I'd give her a second chance to redeem herself for your DB's sake.
But close it down if she starts acting up again. If that is her normal mode then your DB will soon recognise it.

sparkleghost · 17/04/2025 16:08

LePetitMaman · 17/04/2025 12:38

I'm with you OP. I don't see what she said as nervous clumsy conversation. If she'd said it once perhaps, but she repeatedly said things and pulled faces to mock you, in your own home. I think she sounds like a bit of a prat... But there is a small chance it was nerves.

On that basis I would go out with them, because you'll know for sure by the end of the meal if it was the former or the latter.

Agree with this take. I think she was rude. If she’d just been nervous and socially awkward I think she’d have realised when nobody started laughing with her, but instead she carried on and gave you the side eye.
Having said that, I’d still give her a second chance, just for DH & BIL’s sake.

TonTonMacoute · 17/04/2025 16:06

comeandhaveteawithme · 17/04/2025 14:48

Well yes, but in context. I didn't just say "Hi, I'm soandso and I like fox sex"

I wasn't talking to her, I was talking to my child, briefly, before sending him back upstairs. She inserted herself into the conversation and called me weird before I'd even said I like it.
And I only said I like hearing it because it means spring is on the way. I like seeing the first bird fly over with a twig in its mouth too, or the first snowdops, or the daffodils sprouting, or the lighter mornings or the first time I smell a BBQ. Don't most people?

I have this vision of OP as some sort of fox sex voyeur, creeping around at night in a grubby Mac, trying to spy on them 'at it'!

Its a very strange noise, and one that would be frightening to a child if they didn't know what it was.

TheWeeDonkeyFella · 17/04/2025 16:05

"Hi, I'm soandso and I like fox sex"

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I've got to go to Aldi shortly OP and fear I'm going to be still giggling to myself round the aisle at that one like a loon!

Nanny0gg · 17/04/2025 16:05

Enrichetta · 17/04/2025 14:50

I think you should go and be open minded. She may have been nervous rather than rude.

To be honest I'd find you going on about foxes' mating habits much more awkward.

OFGS

Hyperbole much?

Short explanation to her son. Hardly 'going on'

Job done

Nothing to do with GF

SpringSunshineanddaffodils · 17/04/2025 16:04

CoffeeCantata · 17/04/2025 15:30

That isn't the behaviour of a nervous person!

She sounds small-minded, ignorant and easily threatened - and very ready to put you down.

I've had this kind of thing - people who know nothing about certain subjects (and, IME, not much about anything much) like to make out that someone who has interests and hobbies - or just plain general knowledge - is weird.

You're not weird, OP. This woman sounds immature, unrewarding as company and very limited and boring. She needs to grow up, learn some manners and some social behaviour. Stand firm!

I once went on a quiz night put on by the PTA to raise funds for the school. A group of mums I didn't know invited me to join their quiz team.
God it was an awful, unenjoyable night. I regretted joining their team almost instantly. I can't say this any other way- they were all thick as fuck. I went there to actually partake in a quiz, which I find enjoyable. They were all there to get drunk and make the most stupid schoolgirl humour jokes ever, and just be complete dickheads all night. None of them knew any answers and they all thought it was weird as fuck that I knew anything. One of them even said "OMG you KNOW that" and laughed in my face.
They also said some incredibly stupid stuff regarding the geography questions. "India is in Asia? I thought India was just India!" Was a personal fave.
Grown women in their 30s. Mothers. Unbelievable

I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't say it, but here it is. Thick people are boring and tedious. Thick people that want to laugh at others for not being Thick are the absolute worst and I can not deal with them

I'd give her a wide berth, OP.

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 17/04/2025 16:01

Some wildlife noises sound like somebody is being murdered in cold blood - it is fair enough that they are both memorable and that once you learn what they really are, that knowledge tends to stick!

How old is BIL and this girlfriend? If she's pretty young and very townie I could forgive her for not knowing what foxes mating sound like - otherwise I'd think she was a bit thick and/or not remotely interested in the natural world (which I would silently judge her for).

I'd meet up with them again, if only out of a desire to find out if she was that much of a one line wonder all the time! I would be prepared to put it down to nerves, but there are limits...

BrownJenkin · 17/04/2025 16:00

WellINeverrr · 17/04/2025 15:43

She sounds like a mean, snide, high school girl, I'd give it a swerve. The older I get the less inclined I feel to waste my time doing thing don't like with people I don't like.

This. She doesn't seem to be the category of person who can acknowledge....

  • people are interested in different things and have different ways of living.
  • unless someone is doing something which directly affects you negatively, it's nothing to do with you
  • if you're meeting someone for the first time, and want to create a positive relationship, being a bit formal/extra nice/polite is the way to go.

Yes yes, it may be down to "insecurity" or "nerves".

But it's not down to the OP to be her punchbag or teacher.

You do see with this type of person, they somehow remember their manners and are able to be respectful when a High Status Man or someone rich is in view.

It's just other women or people they see as inferior who are have to take the digs and nasty comments.

ohyesido · 17/04/2025 15:57

I wouldn’t like this behaviour either first impressions count. It’s very high school childishness

CoffeeCantata · 17/04/2025 15:54

Wolfpa · 17/04/2025 15:45

She didn’t say that you were weird she said that a fact you knew was weird.

No - she implied that it was weird that OP knew a basic fact about a very common British mammal. Now to me, HER attitude is weird and rather sad.

She sounds silly, mean, immature and very annoying. And I'm afraid her high-pitched (dare I say....sreechy? Or is that weird of me?) laugh would mean I would not be spending the evening in her company again if I had any choice in the matter/

ContraryNoodle · 17/04/2025 15:51

I have very little patience for contrary feckers and would probably not bother to come out if I felt they were going to go on my tits.

canthavethatonethen · 17/04/2025 15:50

Wolfpa · 17/04/2025 15:45

She didn’t say that you were weird she said that a fact you knew was weird.

Not the fact itself though, but that it was weird that the OP knew. Which is basically telling you that you must weird to know a thing like that.

Isittimeformynapyet · 17/04/2025 15:50

Bababear987 · 17/04/2025 12:38

Give her another chance, what are you going to do just never be around her again? She was probably just being weird cause she was nervous.

Although tbh I'd find it a little weird that you said it was a foxs mating cry. I dont know why and wouldnt say it to your face but I do think it's just an odd thing to be able to identify and be interested in when animals mate.

Once you've heard foxes on the job you never forget it.

It's a shame you think knowing things is weird - we wouldn't get on.

JHound · 17/04/2025 15:49

Enrichetta · 17/04/2025 15:25

There's a place for everything. Making a guest you've never met before feel uncomfortable isn't the right place.

What on earth is awkward about saying to your son that the loud screeches he can hear is just the Fox mating calls.

5128gap · 17/04/2025 15:48

I'd not be rushing to socialise with her outside of necessary family obligations. So, family meal at MILs, yes. Couples evening at pub, no. Perhaps in the course of the obligatory meetings she'll improve and you'll warm to her. If so you can always start extra socialising then.

Wolfpa · 17/04/2025 15:45

She didn’t say that you were weird she said that a fact you knew was weird.

WellINeverrr · 17/04/2025 15:43

comeandhaveteawithme · 17/04/2025 12:29

DH's brother got a new girlfriend around Christmas time. At the end of January, he brought her round to an evening gathering at our house.

At first it seemed to be going OK. The girl was really quiet and barely said a word at first which I put down to shyness.

During the evening, our DS (11) came downstairs from his room and said he was a bit scared because he'd heard a freaky noise outside. I said "oh, was it a screeching sound?" He said it was I said "it will be the foxes mating cry, don't worry about it, they always mate at the end of January" DS went back to bed, reassured.

The GF let out a high pitch screech of laughter and said "You KNOW exactly when foxes have sex! That's SO WIERD" with this continued high pitched laugh. Baring in mind she'd barely said a word all night and the first thing she says is that I'm weird, in my own house, I thought it was pretty rude of her.

But I just tried to be polite and said "oh..yeah..Well I'm interested in wildlife and I like foxes so I remember they mate in January and have their cubs in March" and then she sort of wrinkled her nose and gave a side eye so I felt awkward and carried blethering on and said "I quite like hearing them because it reminds me spring is coming". And she laughed again and said "you like hearing foxes have sex, so weird" then the subject changed.

Now BIL has suggested we all go out together for an evening at a pub.

AIBU to not really fancy it? First impressions of the GF really weren't great. She was rude and made me uncomfortable while a guest in my house and pretty much the only thing she said all night was to make fun of me. She also came across extremely immature.

DH thinks I'm too sensitive and should give her another chance.

She sounds like a mean, snide, high school girl, I'd give it a swerve. The older I get the less inclined I feel to waste my time doing thing don't like with people I don't like.

MarkWithaC · 17/04/2025 15:42

I think she sounds uncurious, a little intellectually challenged, quite small-minded and prurient.
As do those on this thread throwing up their hands in horror at the idea that one might know anything about animals' behaviour and timings, when there are animals everywhere.
Having said that, I'd go to this thing and see how she acts.

Catsandcannedbeans · 17/04/2025 15:37

Bit rude, bit socially inept, but harmless. I’d probably give her another chance and if she’s rude again give her a clap back.

How old is she?

CoffeeCantata · 17/04/2025 15:32

ItGhoul · 17/04/2025 15:07

Blimey, some people have a low threshold for what they consider 'weird'. Get a grip. There's nothing remotely 'weird' about it and thinking a mention of foxes mating is somehow too rude for dinner is a new level of prudery.

OP, I suspect she was just socially awkward and I wouldn't really worry about it.

OP, I suspect she was just socially awkward and I wouldn't really worry about it.

Hmmm - but she repeated the 'weird' jibe a couple of times and made a face.

That's more than socially awkward in my book.

CoffeeCantata · 17/04/2025 15:30

ThisUsernameIsAvailabl · 17/04/2025 12:33

Jeez you’re very harsh. It was the first time you met her. She was probably nervous. Relax.

That isn't the behaviour of a nervous person!

She sounds small-minded, ignorant and easily threatened - and very ready to put you down.

I've had this kind of thing - people who know nothing about certain subjects (and, IME, not much about anything much) like to make out that someone who has interests and hobbies - or just plain general knowledge - is weird.

You're not weird, OP. This woman sounds immature, unrewarding as company and very limited and boring. She needs to grow up, learn some manners and some social behaviour. Stand firm!

LAMPS1 · 17/04/2025 15:30

I love that you were able to calm your son at the same time as educating him. You weren’t being unreasonable at all to say that to him. It was all very straightforward, factual and obviously, exactly what needed to be said to satisfy your young child.
The fact is, SIL needed educating too. She is obvioulsy so hung up about sex that she doesn’t understand that animals mate to reproduce and found it a giggly subject, (as might a very young bunch of school girls), which prompted her stupid response. You were kind not to give her a sharp comment about her immaturity yourself, especially as you weren’t even addressing her.

I think she’s a bit in awe of you and put you down to make herself feel more confident. Quite transparent really.
I would try not to take it personally at all OP. If she starts that trick again, just call her out on it….or quietly say ‘Listen SIL, I don’t mean to upset you and I get we don’t know each other too well as yet, but just so we do understand each other, that sort of comment you just made, could well be taken as offensive so I’d be happier if you could be a bit more considerate as it isn’t helping create a good impression.

Namechangean · 17/04/2025 15:29

Enrichetta · 17/04/2025 15:25

There's a place for everything. Making a guest you've never met before feel uncomfortable isn't the right place.

What are you on? She was talking to her son about a noise, not showing her guest her collection of fox mating videos

Enrichetta · 17/04/2025 15:25

BlueTitShark · 17/04/2025 14:53

To be honest I'd find you going on about foxes' mating habits much more awkward.

You’ve never watch a nature documentary then? Or talked about it?

There's a place for everything. Making a guest you've never met before feel uncomfortable isn't the right place.

interestedwhy · 17/04/2025 15:19

She sounds a bit young and bit inexperienced, a bit socially awkward .Give her a second chance .