To tell you how schools changed within 15-10 years

I was there!

Most likeky me but that's because noblegiraffe refuses to see how attacking indy schools has an impact on state schools

How do you know what the evidence presented to court was then?!? You said it was evidence used in “the court case”

judgements are published all the time, I assumed that’s where you had got it from?

Because everything they do to damage independent schools has an impact stare schools. The fact you refuse to see that isn't my fault. They are a combined attack on education full stop.

I obviously can't link to court documents no. They won't release them publicly because they then would have no justification for the policy.

Inclusivity policy is not always the best either.

Labour seem to be pushing on this. It’s a way to save money but won’t help.

Who’s ‘they’?

If you’re going to attempt to insult people at least be specific.

Oh god, they've found the thread. No state school thread is safe.

Can you link to the evidence in this court case?

youre obviously talking about forecasts - labour doesn’t know how much VAT wolll be paid either. All be interesting to see what evidence was put forward for this court case that was so devastating

It’s about to get A LOT worse in state schools precisely because of what Labour are doing to independent school families. Come July when applications open for September places in yr 1-6 & 8-11 I think we’ll see the beginning of the exodus. Gvmt data predicts 54k+ pupils migrating & 100 additional school closures. Outstanding schools in the south east, Sussex, Kent & home counties, where there are hundreds of private schools, are in for a shock I fear. And Bridget Phillipson couldn’t care less.

TPS is a basket case and teachers now cost employers a lot more. Last time I had access to a report employers contribution was 23%. This is the main reason other employment routes are so much cheaper

I left teaching just before Covid hit.
When I was job hunting I was told “haha, can’t have you here, you’d cost us far too much money to employ” by one head. She basically said she refused to pay for my experience and qualifications (SENDCO & Certified Head) despite my requirements in salary being met already.
Another told me “I can’t employ you, you’d be in my chair in a heartbeat”
Another one, when I explained what I could do to overhaul the schools SEND department for free and totally revolutionise the way it was working, so it would be effective to learning (as an answer to an interview question) “Yeah, you could do that, but I really don’t see the need” I was like 😳 and walked out.
I didn’t leave due to stress or over work. I didn’t leave because of lack of funding. I didn’t leave because there were no TAs or because of exam pressure.
I left because all the head teachers/SLT I have ever met have had beyond appalling attitudes to their staff/recruitment. That needs to change first.

The curriculum looks fine to me. Dc here are engaged and learning.

It’s just money imo. Drop the ridiculous VAT policy. Maybe even do rebates as other countries do. Use the education budget for fewer dc with lower rolls too.

It means more £ per pupil.

From the figures submitted by Labour in the court case. They had to submit their actual calculations (not IFS ones) which show over 10% kids (50 000) expected to leave indy schools in first 2 years. 10% is point at which the policy brings in net £0 and 33000 have already left before we even get to Sept 25 which is the key indicator date.
Their figures also show an additional 100 indy schools closing in first 2 years.

They lied to you all, some of you believed them. Oh they are also now trying to supress the NAO report that they themselves accepted + used because it shows exactly how dire the state SEN provision is. As this is a key piece of evidence in the legal trial they are trying to make it inadmissible.

No point if you have a Labour MP. You will just get a copy + paste statement of how they are bringing in "free breakfasts"
Labour care no more about education than the Tories did. They certainly aren't increasing funding.

First ever VAT payments from private schools were only submitted 31/03/25?!? How would you know?

There isn't any VAT being received. Court case proved that!
Labour lied to you all

Time wasting? What else were students going to do when they could only leave the house once a day for exercise? During the second lockdown I taught online all day.

This is such a lovely post. As the mum and auntie of children with SEn needs I really appreciates this. Like many of us who were at school in the 80s and 90s i recall the difficulties, violence and disruption of having SEn children whose needs weren’t recognised or met. Including teacher on child violence.

however I do worry about the tsunami of cost, process and structural change needed to support the situation we have now.
10 children in my daughters yr1 class of 30 have recognised or diagnosed SEn.

I’ve just been through the secondary school allocations in my county and 5-10% of spaces are going to SEN priority, seriously disrupting the system in all sorts of ways.

the system isn’t funded to support this- but can it be? I don’t know the answers, and it just seems overwhelming

Better a good teacher than the latest technology in my opinion.

The parents of the kids whose schools set nothing or very little should have been delighted as it freed up their kids to teach themselves a full and varied curriculum.

During Lockdown we had a small community and properly socially distanced event where we were close enough to speak to eachother.
There were 4 DC the same age as my DD and all 4 were in Y8 at Secondary and all 4 Mums ended up discussing what provision was being provided by school. There were stark differences
DD - full online timetable taught via TEAMS by her usual teachers on a school laptop
DC1 - work set by teachers once a week and a once a week check in by a subject teacher that was "compulsory"
DC2 - Online work set weekly with a vague "let us know if you need anything"
DC3 - Direction towards work they should be doing and very little support.

DS who was Y6 at primary at this point also had nothing sent home but we could request it if we needed to. I was WFH PT so had both time and resources to help him.
Provision varied so much and The parents were key to it

I disagree. I pay £5 for an hour of after school club with no teaching or £7 for an hour of sport with a coach. I pay £12-15 for 30 mins with a music teacher. £11 for 30 mins swimming. Nursery was £50+ a day when my dc were in there. I don’t think £6 per child per hour is enough at secondary. I don’t want them copying off a blackboard 35 to a class because it’s cheap, I want them being taught with the latest technology and resources, with qualified and experienced teachers, TAs and technicians as required.

I was teaching at an independent school during lockdown and by the second go round I was teaching the A-level syllabus as normal, just remotely, with rather better attendance than usual (as the students had nothing much else to do and no commute) and learnt some new methods, some of which I still use.

Experiences vary but you absolutely can teach effectively remotely IF the equipment works, you have parental buy in and the students are of secondary age. Probably not practical subjects so easily, admittedly.

There are some successful online schools these days and of course the Open University etc has existed for a long time.

But we're supposed to believe that a kid put in the same bedroom with the same access to FIFA who didn't even bother logging in to see what the schoolwork was will instead, when left to their own devices, launch into a wonderful voyage of discovery which will educate them in a useful and coherent way, using both academic and accurate resources.